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post #346 of 808

Just curious.  Has any PanAm owners tried to feed the DAC with an iDevice using Apple's Camera Connection Kit (CCK)?  I know it works on ALO's International and was wondering if this amp does the same...

post #347 of 808
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It works from the iPad. If you have a jailbreaked iPhone/iPod touch it works, too. The DAC draws a very little amount of electricity so plug and play.

post #348 of 808

Thanks for that Shigzeo. I can't believe I've owned it this long and not tried it with a CCK. hahahaha!

 

I usually have it hooked up to a MAC. Time to buy a CCK i guess.

post #349 of 808
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It is one of the coolest things about the Pan Am. If you have the battery pack, it really is a fully operational portable amp!

post #350 of 808

I know it works directly with the Sony Xperia Z tablet as I occasionally use them together (see photo in the recent photo of this thread). I guess because I never use my iPad 2 for audio playback, I never really put much thought into it. I actually thought it would not work so I never tried. 

 

But now I want to try it. :) There's 40 Gigs on it remaining that is screaming to be filled with FLAC files. 

post #351 of 808

That's good news.  With IOS7, the CCK trick should then work with all iDevices now (if they can run IOS7 that is)......

 

I'm a bit surprised ALO doesn't mention this, like they did with the International.

post #352 of 808

Just sharing some thoughts and experiences on headphone pairings guys. Take this with the usual grain of salt.

 

The PanAm is not a good match for the HE500. (yes, yes, I know I should have known that even before I tried, but hey experiencing something for one's self is the best teacher, no?)

 

After many, many, manyyyyyy hours of listening and tube rolling, I have come to this sad conclusion. The pairing simply does not yield good enough results. This is when using the PanAm as both DAC and amp, though I highly doubt changing DACs will affect the outcome. 

 

The HE500 comes out as shrill, piercing even. Bass is there, but in such a small quantity. Disappointing.

 

Considering what others are driving the HE500 with, this comes as a foregone conclusion to some, but I had my "I can dream" hat on when pairing these two especially for on the go. Sadly, the PanAm could not give the HE500 what it needs to shine. At least it does very well with the other cans I have tried. 

 

Time to resume the search for a mobile solution for the HE500.  :frown:

post #353 of 808
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Originally Posted by NZheadcase View Post
 

Just sharing some thoughts and experiences on headphone pairings guys. Take this with the usual grain of salt.

 

The PanAm is not a good match for the HE500. (yes, yes, I know I should have known that even before I tried, but hey experiencing something for one's self is the best teacher, no?)

 

After many, many, manyyyyyy hours of listening and tube rolling, I have come to this sad conclusion. The pairing simply does not yield good enough results. This is when using the PanAm as both DAC and amp, though I highly doubt changing DACs will affect the outcome. 

 

The HE500 comes out as shrill, piercing even. Bass is there, but in such a small quantity. Disappointing.

 

Considering what others are driving the HE500 with, this comes as a foregone conclusion to some, but I had my "I can dream" hat on when pairing these two especially for on the go. Sadly, the PanAm could not give the HE500 what it needs to shine. At least it does very well with the other cans I have tried. 

 

Time to resume the search for a mobile solution for the HE500.  :frown:

Yeah, you're not the first heard complaining about the Pan Am not pairing well with HE500. I've heard the Burson and audio-gd amps paired well  with HE500.

post #354 of 808

Yeah the Soloist does work very very well with the HE500s. 

post #355 of 808

A little off topic but does anyone know how to get started with playing audio files on a tablet that feeds into the Pan Am via OTG/USB?

Tried using Poweramp but it doesn't work.

 

edit: android tablet btw :D


Edited by ahhui90 - 11/4/13 at 5:04am
post #356 of 808
Thread Starter 

I've only used iPad and the stock music app. I've not used an Android tablet but there are heaps here who have. I assume you'll get some good advice soon.

post #357 of 808
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Originally Posted by NZheadcase View Post
 

Just sharing some thoughts and experiences on headphone pairings guys. Take this with the usual grain of salt.

 

The PanAm is not a good match for the HE500. (yes, yes, I know I should have known that even before I tried, but hey experiencing something for one's self is the best teacher, no?)

 

After many, many, manyyyyyy hours of listening and tube rolling, I have come to this sad conclusion. The pairing simply does not yield good enough results. This is when using the PanAm as both DAC and amp, though I highly doubt changing DACs will affect the outcome. 

 

The HE500 comes out as shrill, piercing even. Bass is there, but in such a small quantity. Disappointing.

 

Considering what others are driving the HE500 with, this comes as a foregone conclusion to some, but I had my "I can dream" hat on when pairing these two especially for on the go. Sadly, the PanAm could not give the HE500 what it needs to shine. At least it does very well with the other cans I have tried. 

 

Time to resume the search for a mobile solution for the HE500.  :frown:

 

I am having the same issue.. I have tried the russians, mullards, and siemens, and to my newbie audiophile ears they all sound a bit too harsh with my DT880s.. it reminds me of when I tried out DT990 pro and decided against those because of the offensive highs. others on this thread said the panam goes well with dt880s, so not sure if it's just me... I got the PanAm after trying out a friend's International with my DT880s and they sounded amazing..  

post #358 of 808

have you properly burned in the tubes. i have all three of those tube sets and the each took a good 20 to 30 hours of burn-in before the mellowed out on the top end. I pair with the with LCD-2. 

post #359 of 808
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Originally Posted by jscivias View Post

I am having the same issue.. I have tried the russians, mullards, and siemens, and to my newbie audiophile ears they all sound a bit too harsh with my DT880s.. it reminds me of when I tried out DT990 pro and decided against those because of the offensive highs. others on this thread said the panam goes well with dt880s, so not sure if it's just me... I got the PanAm after trying out a friend's International with my DT880s and they sounded amazing..  

I've not tried the DT series, so I cannot really comment. However I find the T1 to be very well driven by the PanAm using the Siemens tubes. That is currently my go to transportable pairing even more so than the LCD 2 PanAm pair. More because I really loathe taking the LCDs out of the house for obvious reasons. biggrin.gif

Try giving them a bit more time and let YOURself adjust to the pair. If by a week you've not found the best music for the pair and have not grasped the signature, then move on. However, with more time I bet you'd be pleasantly surprised.
Edited by NZheadcase - 11/8/13 at 3:38pm
post #360 of 808
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Originally Posted by jscivias View Post

I am having the same issue.. I have tried the russians, mullards, and siemens, and to my newbie audiophile ears they all sound a bit too harsh with my DT880s.. it reminds me of when I tried out DT990 pro and decided against those because of the offensive highs. others on this thread said the panam goes well with dt880s, so not sure if it's just me... I got the PanAm after trying out a friend's International with my DT880s and they sounded amazing..  

So much depends on individual preference and type of music. I have the Voskhod Rockets loaded into the Pan Am at the moment and plugged in the DT880's. I'm listening to classical chamber music and baroque opera, and the highs are crisp, clean and detailed; the voices are very natural; not over-bright to my ears. While I prefer the warmer Mullards with these phones, the sound is quite good - again, to my ears. I am also using a slightly warm source - the HiFiMan HM-801, which may tone it down a little. That said, the DT880's are "bright-leaning" cans. Many people prefer "warm-leaning" headphones (like the LCD-2 or 3; Denons; Fostex; etc.). I like both presentations, but since I listen almost exclusively to classical, I tend to prefer the "brighter" headphones. I listen to both the Senn HD800's and the Audeze LCD-3's and love them both, but if I were forced to pick one, it would be the HD800.

Just as many people (if not more people) prefer a "warmer-leaning" presentation, and there's nothing at all wrong with that. If you're one of these folks, perhaps the DT880's may not be your endgame headphone.
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