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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post


It's just fussy what you pair it with Lee. For example, C3 makes my 60ohm MDR V6 sing, really sing, sounds amazing, plenty of power. Sony MDR EX600 sounded fantastic, stage is really wide, the mid centric feel, attack make vocals sound excellent, then... some other IEM's with 32ohm 16ohm it just doesn't come to the party. to me almost feels like there's a lot of resistance, Of course there's still music and it's sounds ok, but some IEM's really go the extra mile. I think it might come down to sensitivity and other technical parts of the IEM / headphone, not just impedance. H-100 pair very well, one of the best I've heard with C3.


Strange... So you are saying your higher impedance headphones or IEMs are pairing better than the lower ones.... Hmm...

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Strange... So you are saying your higher impedance headphones or IEMs are pairing better than the lower ones.... Hmm...

Not really, my H-100 are 32ohms also EX600 32ohms, as I said they work well. There's something more to it that I don't understand, possibly the sensitivity? Because I know V6 are very easy to drive even at 60ohms from most sources.
post #783 of 803
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Not really, my H-100 are 32ohms also EX600 32ohms, as I said they work well. There's something more to it that I don't understand, possibly the sensitivity? Because I know V6 are very easy to drive even at 60ohms from most sources.


Well it could really come down to synergy in that case and you are all finding out exactly what synergy is. I have that issue all the time. But on certain equipment it is that much more pronounced. One reason why I tend to like all arounders better. The same can be noted on hisound players. I think the Rocoo BA though would be the best all arounder (compatible with more equipment).

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Could be due to high output impedance. I have to say though, that with most players able to handle low-impedance IEMs without issue, a player that can't isn't particularly good.

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Actually, it's probably synergy unrelated to the output impedance of the c3 and low impedance headphones. The mh1c is 15ohm and the R1 is 16 and they both sound pretty good with the c3. MIght be due to sensitivity but in that case the mh1c is an exception as although it has 115db rated sensitivity it is relatively hard to drive for its low impedance. The R1 also. The gr02 bass also sounded good even though I just tested it with the c3 a little bit. So from what I tried I can say that it doesn't seem to be impedance related and most probably sensitivity related as despite the rated sensitivity of the headphones I tried I have always used volume of 33-40 out of 40, so none of my iems is actually really sensitive. 

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Could be due to high output impedance. I have to say though, that with most players able to handle low-impedance IEMs without issue, a player that can't isn't particularly good.


Can't argue with you there :P.

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Actually, it's probably synergy unrelated to the output impedance of the c3 and low impedance headphones. The mh1c is 15ohm and the R1 is 16 and they both sound pretty good with the c3. MIght be due to sensitivity but in that case the mh1c is an exception as although it has 115db rated sensitivity it is relatively hard to drive for its low impedance. The R1 also. The gr02 bass also sounded good even though I just tested it with the c3 a little bit. So from what I tried I can say that it doesn't seem to be impedance related and most probably sensitivity related as despite the rated sensitivity of the headphones I tried I have always used volume of 33-40 out of 40, so none of my iems is actually really sensitive. 


What is the max volume on this player?

post #788 of 803
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post

Actually, it's probably synergy unrelated to the output impedance of the c3 and low impedance headphones. The mh1c is 15ohm and the R1 is 16 and they both sound pretty good with the c3. MIght be due to sensitivity but in that case the mh1c is an exception as although it has 115db rated sensitivity it is relatively hard to drive for its low impedance. The R1 also. The gr02 bass also sounded good even though I just tested it with the c3 a little bit. So from what I tried I can say that it doesn't seem to be impedance related and most probably sensitivity related as despite the rated sensitivity of the headphones I tried I have always used volume of 33-40 out of 40, so none of my iems is actually really sensitive. 

 

If you read more carefully in my post you'll see it LOL 

 

It does the job but is deffinitely not a powerhouse. With that said most of the relatively hard to drive iems will have enough volume at 35-40 unless you really like loud volume. Even the ones that may be quiet never feel underpowered or suffer from that. Frankly the only iem I tried that absolutely needed more volume for me was the altec lansing im716 but it's just insanely inefficient even though it's impedance is around 68ohm in hd mode.


Edited by kova4a - 11/16/12 at 9:04pm
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Can the C3 properly drive an ER4S?

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If you read more carefully in my post you'll see it LOL 

 

It does the job but is deffinitely not a powerhouse. With that said most of the relatively hard to drive iems will have enough volume at 35-40 unless you really like loud volume. Even the ones that may be quiet never feel underpowered or suffer from that. Frankly the only iem I tried that absolutely needed more volume for me was the altec lansing im716 but it's just insanely inefficient even though it's impedance is around 68ohm in hd mode.

 

My bad lol. I thought there was more than 40 steps for some reason. It does seem to lack power though if you are having to use it near it's max volume. Not saying this is a problem though, just something I'm not accustomed to on a DAP.


Edited by lee730 - 11/17/12 at 12:44am
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Can the C3 properly drive an ER4S?

100 Ohms, I don't know, you may be pushing it. C3's bass is already rather neutral, possibly to light for some, even it were to drive ER4S there might be a lack in the low end. There's good detail in the low end but quantity isn't a hot spot for C3. And again it really comes to what you're pairing.

Here's a power output graph compared to Clip+ and a few other DAP's. Give you an idea.


Edited by H20Fidelity - 11/17/12 at 12:58am
post #792 of 803
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100 Ohms, I don't know, you may be pushing it. C3's bass is already rather neutral, possibly to light for some, even it were to drive ER4S there might be a lack in the low end. There's good detail in the low end but quantity isn't a hot spot for C3. And again it really comes to what you're pairing.

Thanks. I prefer neutral sources so C3 bass isn't a worry. I'd just like a clean single device solution to drive the ER4S. The DX100 would work but it's $$$.
post #793 of 803
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Thanks. I prefer neutral sources so C3 bass isn't a worry. I'd just like a clean single device solution to drive the ER4S. The DX100 would work but it's $$$.

It's certainly very clean, tight, with good attack in the mid range. Compared to my Cowon S9 it sounds rather high strung, authoritative.

Like someone tightened the guitar string up an extra turn.
post #794 of 803
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post


100 Ohms, I don't know, you may be pushing it. C3's bass is already rather neutral, possibly to light for some, even it were to drive ER4S there might be a lack in the low end. There's good detail in the low end but quantity isn't a hot spot for C3. And again it really comes to what you're pairing.
Here's a power output graph compared to Clip+ and a few other DAP's. Give you an idea.


lol H2O this guys measurements are way off. I'll tell you right off the bat the Sansa clip has no where near the power output of the Rocoo Ba. The Studio is definitely more powerful than the BA but it's not double the power rating. The BA has a power output of 50mW while the Studio V has 85mW. I highly doubt this guys reviews just from these measurements alone.

post #795 of 803
Remember that graph is not for Rocco BA, there is an error when he wrote it, he actually means the Rocco S.

Don't get your hopes up to soon Lee. lol

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07.10.2012 Corrigendum : You must read Rocoo S in the diagrams downstream and not "Rocoo BA." After verification, the model was indeed a test Rocoo S. We apologize for the incorrect information.

http://tupperwav.com/le-materiel/colorfly-c3-comparatif-avec-4-autres-baladeurs-a-vocation-audiophile/
Edited by H20Fidelity - 11/17/12 at 1:14am
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