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post #961 of 1975
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Originally Posted by Dyaems View Post

the walkman F doesnt not even reach 20+ hours with all flac if im not mistaken

With the new firmware announced for mid December, the battery life will increase from 20 to 34 hours as Sony write in a document, I find that in the Z thread, if I remember well, but sounds good smily_headphones1.gif

This firmware will also implement the support for the FLAC in the Z.
post #962 of 1975
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Originally Posted by etherlite View Post

FLAC and Apple.... What are you going to do about that?


You can get third-party FLAC players from the App store, but your FLAC files have to be managed separately - they aren't unified with your MP3s. I've opted in the short-term to use my 320kbps MP3s.

post #963 of 1975
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Originally Posted by Migou67 View Post

@Severim Your are missing FLAC and sound quality with the Ipod, but you win for Itunes and nice earbuds biggrin.gif


Well I'm actually avoiding iTunes an using CopyTrans (which can happily copy from one external USB drive, via the PC, to a connected iPod without storing it on the local PC as well). Haven't tried the earbuds since I've some smexy Westone 4's.

 

But to get this thread back on track -- I've decided to pull the trigger on F807 and will compare against the iPod Touch 5G. Whichever loses out will go to the gf. ;)

post #964 of 1975
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Originally Posted by severim View Post


Well I'm actually avoiding iTunes an using CopyTrans (which can happily copy from one external USB drive, via the PC, to a connected iPod without storing it on the local PC as well). Haven't tried the earbuds since I've some smexy Westone 4's.

But to get this thread back on track -- I've decided to pull the trigger on F807 and will compare against the iPod Touch 5G. Whichever loses out will go to the gf. wink.gif

I was joking for the earbuds wink.gif

Is the price difference so important between the 5G 64G and the F807 ?
post #965 of 1975
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Originally Posted by severim View Post

I've decided to pull the trigger on F807 and will compare against the iPod Touch 5G

 

that is the best and only way to go. opinions are ok and all that but nothing like your ears forming their own opinions beyersmile.png

post #966 of 1975
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Originally Posted by severim View Post

I've been comparing the market since realising J3's are almost impossible to find (even here in HK). Put together a spreadsheet of players on my radar. I was looking for a few things - minimum 64GB storage (expandability preferred), small profile, 20h+ playtime, FLAC compatible, anything else was just gravy.

 

The Sony Walkman F807 series was on my radar, but in the end I went with an iPod Touch 5G. Why? Well, I can't seem to understand what Sony brings to the table that justfies the increased cost. I'm a heavy Android advocate with several of the latest Samsung Galaxy devices (SGS2,3,Note2), so there's no Apple snobbery here. I'm just trying to find what comes closest to my J3 from cost, playtime, storage and performance.

 

From that perspective, is there anything that sets the F8xx ahead of an iPod Touch 5G (beyond software)?

http://www.head-fi.org/t/625852/sony-nwz-f806-mini-review-f-series-player-reviews-impressions-discussion/930#post_8894326

 

 

We buy a Walkman for sound first, second and third, all other stuff come later.

During Steve Jobs visit to Japan , he was intrigued when he saw so many Walkman, and Discman with people in the streets, he wanted to copy  this to the US market.

He was so into Sony sound and built quality, that he took one of his employee's  Walkman and dissemble it, then asked his engineers to build his future “PLAYER” with a Walkman craftsmanship and quality, so in a way The Sony Walkman success , brought its nemesis into life, and as I said it before, Steve hated how IPods sounded not because of the hardware, but because the quality of the songs he was selling on iTunes.

 

His whole music collection was mostly LP, why? because he enjoyed true music.

 

Walkman where made and sold solely for music at first, with some additional functions every now and then, but it is still a pure "Musical Box"

IPods where sold as music players also, but now....everything about the IPod is wonderful , except its SQ, and please prove me wrong.

 

I am not convincing one to get either, it’s a matter of personal taste, in the end we are "Sony fans", not just because of the Logo, but for something substantial...Lets enjoy music, true music.


Edited by turokrocks - 11/29/12 at 4:41am
post #967 of 1975
Thread Starter 

My F806 handily sounds better than my iPhone 4 (which is supposedly quite good sounding for iPod/iPhone products)....  biggrin.gif

post #968 of 1975
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Originally Posted by cn11 View Post

My F806 handily sounds better than my iPhone 4 (which is supposedly quite good sounding for iPod/iPhone products)....  biggrin.gif

Stop showing off.......beerchug.gif.

post #969 of 1975

What music player apps are y'all using with the F800? Stock? PowerAmp? Neutron? I can definitely say I prefer both Neutron and Stock to PowerAmp based on sound quality alone. Is there any advantage to using the stock player over 3rd party? I don't really care to use any of the Sony sound enhancements nor do I need the W button; is there any other reason to use the stock app? I like how I can make playlists and do gapless in Neutron. 

post #970 of 1975
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Originally Posted by seekadds View Post

What music player apps are y'all using with the F800? Stock? PowerAmp? Neutron? I can definitely say I prefer both Neutron and Stock to PowerAmp based on sound quality alone. Is there any advantage to using the stock player over 3rd party? I don't really care to use any of the Sony sound enhancements nor do I need the W button; is there any other reason to use the stock app? I like how I can make playlists and do gapless in Neutron. 

I use stock and prefer that over PowerAmp.  PowerAmp is nice but I notice a little bit "soften" edge to the sound from the original stock. If you have a really good IEMs, stock music app is the way to go.  I don't turn any EQ on beside the Sony's Clear Stereo enhancement, which is said to reduce crosstalk b/w left & right channel.

post #971 of 1975
I use the stock player too. something pure and native about using that over a 3rd party app. if I want a gapless album I'll just rip it as 1 file. playlists I'm not really bothered about
post #972 of 1975
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Originally Posted by alphabetagaga View Post

I use the stock player too. something pure and native about using that over a 3rd party app. if I want a gapless album I'll just rip it as 1 file. playlists I'm not really bothered about

 

See, I get this feeling too. Even on my old Cowon D3 I found the stock player to sound best. Intuitively, you would expect the hardware manufacturer to be able to make the best-pairing software with their device. 

 

But then I think of computers, where the best-playing software (Foobar, jRiver, etc.) play on any (capable) hardware. That and I'm not sure if any differences I can hear between Neutron and stock are placebo or real differences. Of course if I'm at that point then the sound quality differences are negligible and I should just stick with the UI and features I pefer. I basically am just reassuring my self publicly about which player I'm using lol.

 

For me playlists and gapless are a big issue, but I don't want to be sacrificing sound quality. 

post #973 of 1975
I've heard neutron can be a but of a memory hog though not sure how true that is
post #974 of 1975
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Originally Posted by alphabetagaga View Post

I've heard neutron can be a but of a memory hog though not sure how true that is

 

I have read that it does take up more space in storage than most other apps. If you are referring to RAM memory, then I haven't noticed any problems yet. In both cases, I am basically using the Walkman as a music player only (no angry birds, facebooking, etc.) because I use my phone for other purposes, so Neutron basically has all the device resources to itself. 

post #975 of 1975
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Originally Posted by seekadds View Post

 

See, I get this feeling too. Even on my old Cowon D3 I found the stock player to sound best. Intuitively, you would expect the hardware manufacturer to be able to make the best-pairing software with their device. 

 

But then I think of computers, where the best-playing software (Foobar, jRiver, etc.) play on any (capable) hardware. That and I'm not sure if any differences I can hear between Neutron and stock are placebo or real differences. Of course if I'm at that point then the sound quality differences are negligible and I should just stick with the UI and features I pefer. I basically am just reassuring my self publicly about which player I'm using lol.

 

For me playlists and gapless are a big issue, but I don't want to be sacrificing sound quality. 

 

I also prefer the stock player.

Only use PowerAmp on the go, for Gapless and playlists.

I tested a lot of music apps, they all eventually disappointed me and I always came back to PowerAmp, for me, the most reliable app.


Edited by Pondu - 11/29/12 at 3:21pm
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