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post #1801 of 1992

It will take more battery as you are using ad-hoc wifi between the F and the drive, but I think you will have enough run time (5 hrs) in between plug-ins, or you can always pack a USB based battery.

 

p.s. it never occur to me to get a 1T USB 3.0 drive with wifi even though I know about them for a long time.  Going to order one and will report back sometime next week.


Edited by DrSheep - 9/6/13 at 9:32am
post #1802 of 1992

Is it a good idea to buy an F if I already have a Z?

 

I understand the F is a little more detailed and has a bit more clarity than the Z. Is it noticeably cleaner though?

 

My current pair of iem is the ck100 will it be a good match? 

post #1803 of 1992
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Originally Posted by DrSheep View Post
 

It will take more battery as you are using ad-hoc wifi between the F and the drive, but I think you will have enough run time (5 hrs) in between plug-ins, or you can always pack a USB based battery.

 

p.s. it never occur to me to get a 1T USB 3.0 drive with wifi even though I know about them for a long time.  Going to order one and will report back sometime next week.

I'll be interested to hear how that works out.

 

btw I was just reading this little piece on the F886 http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/05/sony-walkman-f886/ and it states that the list price is 250 euros (roughly $390 USD) for the 32gb model,so hopefully a 64gb model or f887 won't be more than $450.

 

for now though I'm more than contented with my f807,it may not have 24 bit depth,but then again with my ears i'm not so sure I would even hear enough of a difference to justify the price difference muchless the extra drain on battery life :beyersmile:

post #1804 of 1992

Can anyone , please, made a tutorial on how to install applications (apk) on this player). My gps don't function and i want to install an application i had download to my pc to verify the gps antenna but i don't know how to do it

 

Many thanks in advance

post #1805 of 1992
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Originally Posted by croqui View Post
 

Can anyone , please, made a tutorial on how to install applications (apk) on this player). My gps don't function and i want to install an application i had download to my pc to verify the gps antenna but i don't know how to do it

 

Many thanks in advance

I am no expert but I can tell you how I successfully installed apk files off my computer (using a PC,for Mac i'm not sure but i imagine the process would be very similar).

 

1. first plug in your Sony Walkman to the USB port on your computer,and make sure that your USB storage is on.if you just wait a moment it should turn on automatically without you needing to prompt it.

 

2.at this point your computer should bring up an autoplay window, click on where it says 'open folder to view files'.now go to your computer's start menu and find wherever you have saved the apk file or folder for the app you downloaded on to your computer and want to install to on your Walkman to verify your gps antenna. Copy that file (or folder containing the file) and then go back to your Walkman's folder and find the sub folder called ''Android' and paste it in there.

 

3.once that is done go here https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.infolife.installer and download the app 'Easy Installer' which as long as you're connected by usb should install onto your Walkman device. then,  once Easy Installer is installed turn off your Walkman and unplug the USB cable.

 

4.Now turn your Walkman back on and look for the Easy Installer widget (or app) on your Walkman desktop and tap on that icon to open Easy Installer.when it opens you should see a list of all the apps on your Walkman including the one to verify the gps antenna, when you find that program just tap the box next to it to put a check in the box and then at the bottom of the screen tap on the word 'install'. it should install the program and afterwards just click the home button and then find the app icon or widget for that gps verify program and run it.

 

I hope that works for you as well as it did for me.

 

p.s. I know this will sound obvious ala 'are you sure the TV is plugged in?'  but - make sure before you test the gps function that you have gone into settings and enabled wi-fi (to do that just make sure you are on your home page then tap the button to the far right hand side (to the right of the home icon) and that should bring up some options including settings from there you'll see wi-fi at the top just make sure it is on/enabled. most likely you already have,I just mention it as I don't know how new Your Walkman is to you or how familiar You are with it.

 

good luck!

post #1806 of 1992

Many thanks xylin6, i want to be able to set my location only with gps nort gps + wi-fi. I want to be able to use the  navigation application when i'm in my car. when i'm in my car i don't have wi-fi. If i can't set my location only with gps satellites why his this mp3 player equiped with gps antenna?? there are people here who can set their location with only gps satellites. My player don't do that so i believe the dps antenna is deffectiive- Monday i will went to an authorized assistence shop to see is the gps antenna is malfunction on not

I will let you know the result of that visit.

 

A good weekend for you

 

ps. I,m from Portugal, so my English is not very good

post #1807 of 1992
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Originally Posted by croqui View Post

Many thanks xylin6, i want to be able to set my location only with gps nort gps + wi-fi. I want to be able to use the  navigation application when i'm in my car. when i'm in my car i don't have wi-fi. If i can't set my location only with gps satellites why his this mp3 player equiped with gps antenna?? there are people here who can set their location with only gps satellites. My player don't do that so i believe the dps antenna is deffectiive- Monday i will went to an authorized assistence shop to see is the gps antenna is malfunction on not
I will let you know the result of that visit.

A good weekend for you

ps. I,m from Portugal, so my English is not very good

In my experience with Android devices and GPS, it will usually take quite a while to find your location for the first time. With the Walkman I remember it taking no less than 5 minutes to do it, after that, it should lock on your location a lot faster (about 20 seconds at most). Wi-Fi is needed only to download the AGPS data, which allows your device to find your location faster, but that happens only once and you don't need Wi-Fi afterwards.

I recommend you use the app GPS Status. It lets you clear and re-download AGPS data whenever you want, and tells you how many GPS satellites your device finds. If it shows at least some satellites, then your GPS antenna is working fine and you just have to wait for it to find your location.
post #1808 of 1992
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Originally Posted by croqui View Post
 

Many thanks xylin6, i want to be able to set my location only with gps nort gps + wi-fi. I want to be able to use the  navigation application when i'm in my car. when i'm in my car i don't have wi-fi. If i can't set my location only with gps satellites why his this mp3 player equiped with gps antenna?? there are people here who can set their location with only gps satellites. My player don't do that so i believe the dps antenna is deffectiive- Monday i will went to an authorized assistence shop to see is the gps antenna is malfunction on not

I will let you know the result of that visit.

 

A good weekend for you

 

ps. I,m from Portugal, so my English is not very good

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Originally Posted by zamuz View Post


In my experience with Android devices and GPS, it will usually take quite a while to find your location for the first time. With the Walkman I remember it taking no less than 5 minutes to do it, after that, it should lock on your location a lot faster (about 20 seconds at most). Wi-Fi is needed only to download the AGPS data, which allows your device to find your location faster, but that happens only once and you don't need Wi-Fi afterwards.

I recommend you use the app GPS Status. It lets you clear and re-download AGPS data whenever you want, and tells you how many GPS satellites your device finds. If it shows at least some satellites, then your GPS antenna is working fine and you just have to wait for it to find your location.

@croqui,I hope my instructions helped you to install your program.I'm still learning my way around my walkman as I received it about ten days ago and this is my first Android device.

 

I've been so busy using this as just a walkman that I haven't read up on all it's other functions yet,and to be honest, before your question I wasn't even aware the F series came with GPS. though after reading zamuz' response i decided to give it a try and just like he said,it took about 5-7 minutes for the GPS Status app to discover my location and once it did I turned my walkman's wi-fi connection off and checked back about ten minutes later and sure enough it no longer needed the wi-fi connection ,Thank You for that zamuz!

 

If you want give his instructions a try, and it should work,and then after that you should also be able to use the other GPS app you mentioned,if for any reason it doesn't work for you then hopefully the service center can get your GPS up and running on Monday.best of luck with that and let us know how it works out.

post #1809 of 1992

Ok the stupid thing only supports MP3 in it's apps by default, so now I am researching on how to mount it via cifs and stuff like that for Android.  You don't don't mind just using it as a remote share in the house, then read this.

 

http://www.guidingtech.com/10885/access-shared-windows-folders-android-wifi/

 

Update: it was much simpler then I first thought, and all you need for the wifi drive is ES File Explorer File Manager.  The following is for the Silicon Power Sky Share H10 Wi-Fi Drive 1TB USB 3.0 External Hard Drive, but should work in principle with other wifi share setup.

 

1, get the ES File Explorer and a 3rd party player app like the Neutron Player, root not require but helps.

2, connect the drive to your computer and load stuff.

3, connect to the drive via ad-hoc wifi.

4, in ES, browser to LAN, then add a new server using the IP 192.168.49.73 with user Guest.

5, now ES should see all the folders in the SkyShare drive, and when you tap your files, you will get a prompt on what app to use.

 

Have fun.

 

p.s. the down side for the drive is that it's wifi only works when unplugged battery mode, but again if you have wifi in your house, just use the first link above and create a share in your computer for ES to find.


Edited by DrSheep - 9/7/13 at 6:16pm
post #1810 of 1992
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Originally Posted by DrSheep View Post
 

Ok the stupid thing only supports MP3 in it's apps by default, so now I am researching on how to mount it via cifs and stuff like that for Android.  You don't don't mind just using it as a remote share in the house, then read this.

 

http://www.guidingtech.com/10885/access-shared-windows-folders-android-wifi/

 

Update: it was much simpler then I first thought, and all you need for the wifi drive is ES File Explorer File Manager.  The following is for the Silicon Power Sky Share H10 Wi-Fi Drive 1TB USB 3.0 External Hard Drive, but should work in principle with other wifi share setup.

 

1, get the ES File Explorer and a 3rd party player app like the Neutron Player, root not require but helps.

2, connect the drive to your computer and load stuff.

3, connect to the drive via ad-hoc wifi.

4, in ES, browser to LAN, then add a new server using the IP 192.168.49.73 with user Guest.

5, now ES should see all the folders in the SkyShare drive, and when you tap your files, you will get a prompt on what app to use.

 

Have fun.

 

p.s. the down side for the drive is that it's wifi only works when unplugged battery mode, but again if you have wifi in your house, just use the first link above and create a share in your computer for ES to find.

This is seriously cool

 

so,is the external wi fi hard drive a necessity? or could i just access my computers internal and external hard drive folders on my walkman the same as i would using another computer in the house by just adding the shared folders using our wi fi router? cause you mentioned it should work in principle through any hi fi network,and that would be great!

 

well i suppose i need to just give it a go sometime here in the next day or two and find out. thanks again for the step by step process,that is very helpful!

 

 

 

 

post #1811 of 1992
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Originally Posted by xylin6 View Post
 

This is seriously cool

 

so,is the external wi fi hard drive a necessity? or could i just access my computers internal and external hard drive folders on my walkman the same as i would using another computer in the house by just adding the shared folders using our wi fi router? cause you mentioned it should work in principle through any hi fi network,and that would be great!

 

well i suppose i need to just give it a go sometime here in the next day or two and find out. thanks again for the step by step process,that is very helpful!

 

As long as it is a share that on your wifi network it makes no difference.  BTW, instead of ES, which is more of a file manager then a player, Neutron Player ($6) can add any network share as source. Here is a quicky on how to do it.

 

1, in Windows (or Mac), right click on a folder, then select properties->sharing->share.

2, if you don't know your computer's own IP local in the network, then type "cmd" in search, then use the command "ipconfig/all".  You should see a bunch of stuff (may need to scroll up), and under your wifi adapter, you should see a line "IPv4 Address" and that's your IP (Should be something like 192.168.?.?).

3, assume your F is on the same wifi, open up Neutron Player.

4, click the top right icon and scroll down to sources.

5, hit the plus button on the bottom, select network, then hit the plus button again.

6, put the computer's IP in Address, then browse to the folder(s) you want to add and hit the circle button next to it.

7, give it your computer login and password if necessary, but generally using "guest" for user and no password should work, as you only need read access.

8, when done, hit the check button on the bottom right.

9, the app will starts scanning for files (this could take a LONG time), once it's done, then you will see the music or videos it in your list.

 

I spend over 8 hours last night trying find a working cifs.ko module to mount the remote share, only end up with something this simple and no root require.  BTW, if Neutron Player won't scan, then use ES File Manager and browse to the shared folder to "wake it up", and you might have to rescan the folder multiple times to make it scan.  Good luck.

 

p.s. I think there is a bug in the Neutron Player that if it tries to scan too many remote files at once it will quit, so try to add one or two folders with small amount of files at a time.  There maybe other better apps for this out there, so if you know any then please share.


Edited by DrSheep - 9/8/13 at 11:07am
post #1812 of 1992

hello,

 

i follow this forum and read the last days most of writtin here.

 

I want to by an android sound machine for streaming spotify or deezer (on- and offline)

 

Important for me 

 

first: sound quality

 

I dont want a bass bomb but i like very much the deep bass sound like the cowon x5 or the cowon m3 has, if anyone knows about the m3. I read the Cowon j3 has similary sound i like.

Its the warm, round deep bass,   the full,rich  "downest" frequencys.

 

If i here Musik from my cowon m3 with an koss pro it sounds warm and little bit like i have hifi-studio headphones affiliated on my stereosystem (at home).

 

- beyond that, of cause it may have an exellent clear sound so i dont have to use equalizer or makesoundbetter-tools.

 

- the device should run smoothly without "please wait still working".

 

I read about the Sony nwz  f806, and the sony nwz z1060, and i wonder about the new cowon z2. All 3 are about 200€ more or less so i want to decide for one.

 

I bought the cowon 9+ but the sound was clear, very good, but not "rich" enough, (thats only for knowing what kind of sound i like.)

 

I read this thread but im not smart about wether the f508 has more deeper sound than the z1000 serie, cause different people here made different evidence, or am i wrong?

And - what about the cowon z2?  If i dont really use the android for phoning, its the best choice for music?

 

would anyone please tell me something about? Sorry for my english, i think you know it already, -greetings from germany..

post #1813 of 1992

sorry, i forgot the volume control. it must be able to here (very) loud. That means no (eu)volume - limit.

 

i just read that the cowon z3 have to be rootet to get google play apps (like spotify). For me it is out of run.

 

z1060 or f5o6? what did you mean? (the f886 is with 329€ to much for me.)

 

thanks. would be very helpful to hear something from you hifi cracks.


Edited by aees - 9/19/13 at 5:49am
post #1814 of 1992

I'm too lazy to read the past ~40 pages because I haven't been here since but does anyone use PowerAmp / have updated to the latest version? If so, is it laggy for you? I have the un-updateable F807. Ever since I updated PowerAmp after skipping probably like 2 or 3 updates (including the fact that updates usually come every few months), it lags whenever changing / starting / pausing a song. Lag as in it can take 2~10 seconds for it to perform the action.

post #1815 of 1992
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Originally Posted by AyeVeeN View Post
 

I'm too lazy to read the past ~40 pages because I haven't been here since but does anyone use PowerAmp / have updated to the latest version? If so, is it laggy for you? I have the un-updateable F807. Ever since I updated PowerAmp after skipping probably like 2 or 3 updates (including the fact that updates usually come every few months), it lags whenever changing / starting / pausing a song. Lag as in it can take 2~10 seconds for it to perform the action.

I use the native Sony player but just downloaded and installed the trial version of PowerAmp and after it scanned my library it seems to have no problems with any lagging whether switching from one song to the next,pausing and re-starting a track etc... everything works as it should,(this is using version 2.0.9 build 534). just out of curiosity,why is your F807 un-updateable?

 

if this issue continues for you,your best bet may be reporting it as a bug on the PowerAmp forums.http://forum.powerampapp.com/index.php?/topic/3167-bug-reporting-form-the-fast-way-to-fix-your-problems/

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