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Hello I have found an used Audio GD M7 ! I'm so excited to get this new toy :)

post #527 of 2307
Wow a used one already?!?!
After some listening, please post some quick thoughts of what you think about the Master 7.
I just order one to replace my Ref. 7.1 DAC.
post #528 of 2307
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Originally Posted by Heynow View Post

Wow a used one already?!?!
After some listening, please post some quick thoughts of what you think about the Master 7.
I just order one to replace my Ref. 7.1 DAC.

 

if you already had a 7.1, why not just do the upgrade yourself? its just a replacement of the digital input board...though i dont know the cost of the upgrade

post #529 of 2307
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Originally Posted by Hun7er View Post

Hello I have found an used Audio GD M7 ! I'm so excited to get this new toy :)

 

post #530 of 2307
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Originally Posted by Hun7er View Post

Hello I have found an used Audio GD M7 ! I'm so excited to get this new toy :)

 

I saw a post to sell it, which was in Australia. That one hasn't any USB port. Is it the one you get? wink_face.gif

post #531 of 2307

No. Mine come from Germany with USB input ;)

post #532 of 2307

Souprknowva - Honestly I didn't realize it was a small upgrade (Ref. 7.1 - Master 7). My Master 7 unit just showed up today. Also my Ref. 7.1 didn't have a usb input either, now that I'm switching over to a computer based system. Gonna allow it to burn-in for a 100-200 hrs. before I give any feed back. It'll be a little difficult because I've changed a couple of things in the system, not just the DAC.


Edited by Heynow - 7/24/13 at 6:16pm
post #533 of 2307
It is a relatively easy upgrade but the improvement in sound quality is substantial.

I believe it is at least as big an upgrade as from the reference 7 to reference 7.1.

A wonderful DAC

Regards

Macrog
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@ Heynow
I am looking SO much forward to your impressions of the sound differences between the Ref 7.1 and Master 7. I haven't seen a side-by-side comparison yet and this has made me hesitate doing the upgrade. Also, Kingwa wrote something along the line that not everyone will like the difference Master 7 makes.
post #535 of 2307

The Master 7 is very revealing and if there is aweakness elsewhere in your system the Master 7 wont hide it. This is particularly true before being fully run in.

 

The Reference 7.1 has wooly bloated bass compared to the Master 7.  The Master 7 is also significantly more detailed.

 

Macrog

post #536 of 2307
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The Master 7 is very revealing and if there is aweakness elsewhere in your system the Master 7 wont hide it. This is particularly true before being fully run in.

 

The Reference 7.1 has wooly bloated bass compared to the Master 7.  The Master 7 is also significantly more detailed.

 

Macrog

You did a side-by-side comparision of the two?

 

I can easily understand that less jitter will yield more details and a firmer bass, since that was the result when upgrading the digital output of my SB Touch, but I certainly don't find the Ref 7.1 bass to be wolly or bloated in any way. (Not saying that Master 7 may have a firmer bass of course.)

post #537 of 2307
Before M7 released, R7.1 is said to be having the best, tight, deep bass. Now, it sounds like it has the worse bass ever. Reminds me of D5000 bass.
post #538 of 2307
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Originally Posted by RedBull View Post

Before M7 released, R7.1 is said to be having the best, tight, deep bass. Now, it sounds like it has the worse bass ever. Reminds me of D5000 bass.

 

Are you saying - your Ref 7.1 has the worse bass ever?  How is that possible? Compared to what?

post #539 of 2307
No, prep, Ref. 7.1 still have the best bass from all DAC that I know. Only that I am amazed that when a new product released, suddenly all comments bashing the old product.
post #540 of 2307

I think the Reference 7.1 is a great DAC but it is on the warm side of neutral. The bass on the Reference 7.1 is a little exaggerated and doesn't appear to me to have as much detail and control as the NFB-7.1 or the Master 7. I preferred the NFB-7.1 to the Reference 7.1 and Reference 7HE all of which I owned at the same time. The Master 7 to me combined and improved upon the detail and neutrality of the NFB-7.1 and the emotional communication of the Reference 7.1 and Ref7HE.

 

On systems that need a bass boost or need a little extra warmth the Reference 7.1 is probably better than the Master 7. on initial running the Master 7 sounds cold and sterile. I was really worried initially I was going to hate it.

 

I don't believe I have ever liked products just because they are new or trashed old ones. Separate input chips for each digital source on the Master 7 and upgraded DSP are significant upgrades. Kingwa is a humble man and always understates the improvements of significant upgrades to Audio-gd products.

 

Regards

 

Macrog

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