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post #1681 of 3521
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

I am sorry to hear that dacladder. It will make an improvement . Have you tried a PPA USB card with a batter or linker PSU yet. It should give you a big boost as well
Al

 

I will send Steve N. another Email.  Probably squeaky wheel gets the grease.   But I haven't tried any other USB options other than a netbook computer.  I don't have any obvious noise or operation issues with my Dell desktop.  

post #1682 of 3521
As I forgot you have an offramp.
I have have just invested in a server 2012
System. It has the PPA USB card.
I also have a intel I7 machine it too will have a PPA USB card
Even when I use my surface pro there is a gig improvement
With the offramp or AP1/PP SO there is noise somewhere with me. And this
Is running on batteries not charging
Al
post #1683 of 3521
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

As I forgot you have an offramp.
I have have just invested in a server 2012
System. It has the PPA USB card.
I also have a intel I7 machine it too will have a PPA USB card
Even when I use my surface pro there is a gig improvement
With the offramp or AP1/PP SO there is noise somewhere with me. And this
Is running on batteries not charging
Al

I'm going to have to wait until I can afford an off ramp before considering that usb card, as it is usb 3.0 and the usb-32 drivers do not gel well with that in my experience. Something to think about for the future though.

post #1684 of 3521

I have lestened to Master 7 fed by Berkeley USB via BNC in. It sounds fantastic, no comprasion with the native usb32 implementation. It's the most smooth and realistic sound I've heard. Recommend.

post #1685 of 3521

Having  read tons of talks on the digital interfaces.The really good ones are priced more than $1500 . They are not portable and are bound to be desktop stuff. Why not simply dispense with the PC altogether and adopt serious audiophile servers on your desktop ?  Candidates include Auralic Aries ( with dual Femto clocks and priced at $1599, or cheaper ones like Soundware 100 Pro ($1100) with proprietary IIS to SPDIF conversion inside . These servers play everything over SPDIF or even USB . You can attached several USB HDDS of 2TBs or even 3TBs to it. They cab assess NAS , DNLA files .They are controllable by iphone , ipad or android devices . To get purist you can have QLS 660 ( $ 450) with IIS output, and can  also output DoP  in SPDIF  , but works with SD card only .

 

The pulpit is the PC , which may cost the lest in the chain , and is responsible for all the efforts that everyone have put into in the past few years to get around the USB jitter and noise problem. 

post #1686 of 3521
your points are valid . and i have dedeacted music server being built and soon can listen to the improvemets
over stock usb . but such a server is also expensive and only usb not any othe rinout . the two usb converters i have are AP1\PP AND THE OFFRAMP . the AP1\PP only has on eputput being spidif . whi e the offramp has a ferw including an rj 45 config . the sound improvment for me is considrerable . the cost was as well .
i even have a PPA usb card coming anfd i will fit this in my I7 cpu and listen to possible improvements.
al
post #1687 of 3521
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Originally Posted by pigfatcat View Post
 

Having  read tons of talks on the digital interfaces.The really good ones are priced more than $1500 . They are not portable and are bound to be desktop stuff. Why not simply dispense with the PC altogether and adopt serious audiophile servers on your desktop ?  Candidates include Auralic Aries ( with dual Femto clocks and priced at $1599, or cheaper ones like Soundware 100 Pro ($1100) with proprietary IIS to SPDIF conversion inside . These servers play everything over SPDIF or even USB . You can attached several USB HDDS of 2TBs or even 3TBs to it. They cab assess NAS , DNLA files .They are controllable by iphone , ipad or android devices . To get purist you can have QLS 660 ( $ 450) with IIS output, and can  also output DoP  in SPDIF  , but works with SD card only .

 

The pulpit is the PC , which may cost the lest in the chain , and is responsible for all the efforts that everyone have put into in the past few years to get around the USB jitter and noise problem. 

 

The Aries is particularly interesting! It's roughly the same price as an Offramp with turbo-clocks but obviously packs much more features and gets rid of a dedicated player (an Asus T100 for me, since yesterday -> really good). It just lacks an i2s over HDMI/RJ45 output for the M7, though.

post #1688 of 3521

I posted this on another thread:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/702787/chord-hugo/1647#post_10446321

 

It seems to me that a combo network/digital file server and CD transport would be the best of both worlds.  And I understand the Rockna Wavedream NET I2S output is HDMI (PSA std.) compatible, which we now know we can add a converter card to get on the M7 (DACLadder holla!).

 

If my home setup wasn't already so overloaded with "end game" gear, including CD transports, I'd be seriously looking at picking up this Rockna server/transport product.  Heck, I'm already looking.... :wink:   Is there an intervention team available for my upgraditis?

post #1689 of 3521

My upgradetitis has been on halt after I bought the Master-7, My head-phones have a lot of attack already LCD-3 with fazors, I'm wondering if the OR5 would make it too much.

post #1690 of 3521
search back here for the improvments witha n offramp to me its focus.soundtage stabilty and improved size . better calirty for all frrquesncys but mostly the low end and treble . the background seems darker as i prefure this .
this is with rj45 outpput .
al
post #1691 of 3521
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Originally Posted by mowglycdb View Post
 

My upgradetitis has been on halt after I bought the Master-7, My head-phones have a lot of attack already LCD-3 with fazors, I'm wondering if the OR5 would make it too much.

It's not really a question of sonic enhancement, as in punching up the musical texture. As Al says above, it's more like removing distortion and dark veil overlay and digital grain to the point where the micro-dynamics are fleshed out and come to the fore and there's space for ample musical decay, so that the music seems more analog-like and natural...  You know it when you hear it, and it's all what audiophilia is about.

 

Then you can add in the full-body euphonics with say, a nice pair of TH900s, and now you have to deal with total immersion, with its attendent captive engagement and bouts of rapture...  :wink:  Tough row to hoe.

post #1692 of 3521
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

your points are valid . and i have dedeacted music server being built and soon can listen to the improvemets
over stock usb . but such a server is also expensive and only usb not any othe rinout . the two usb converters i have are AP1\PP AND THE OFFRAMP . the AP1\PP only has on eputput being spidif . whi e the offramp has a ferw including an rj 45 config . the sound improvment for me is considrerable . the cost was as well .
i even have a PPA usb card coming anfd i will fit this in my I7 cpu and listen to possible improvements.
al

Auralic Aries output DoP in USB, 32/384 through coaxial or optical ,  and  it has two femtoclocks inside to minimize jitter from the origin. Soundware 100 Pro has IIS out through HDMI type socket, 24/192 through coxial/ AES /BNC and has two inputs for external Femto clocks,( some vendors are already offering  dual clocks to pair with it at around $600) .Both Auralic and Soundware 100 Pro (with external clock) comes to the same price of around $1,600 ( I guess Auralic benchmarked Soundware Pro when coming up with the pricing, since Soundware Pro is highly regarded  )  . They run external HDD or NAS/ DLNA, and can use all ipad/android apps like bubble UPnP , or Eight Players , etc. The QLS 860 output DoP / 24/192 through coaxial or optical .It's sibling QLS 660  has IIS out ( I guess through RJ 45 type socket) .

 

You guys better try the above and compare with your PC/Mac- OR5/ AP1/2/PP packages .

post #1693 of 3521

Looking at the OR5 there's an option I didn't see before :o

 

$50 AudioGD Muting mod       Description: To prevent noisee between tracks using i2s.

 

Any coments?


Edited by mowglycdb - 5/15/14 at 8:29am
post #1694 of 3521

Steve recommended it when I ordered mine.

post #1695 of 3521
I use jriver on mine and I have never heard any noise
But if Steve is saying do it. You should. He is a very good guy in this stuff
And gets the most out if iur computor audio.
Last night I I stalked a PPA USB card and PP red USB cable
With a external linear psu. What an improvement
It made. Computor audio has many quirks and trial and error
Fix things. The makers of our dacs should be the ones to fix it.
But it's seems to be after market people who fix the products
Al
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