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post #1321 of 3492

I had a Wireworld Ultraviolet usb cable that I just sold with the Audiophilleo I used to use.  I tried it with the M7 before I sold it and I didn't hear any difference between it and a plain usb cable.  However, the usb cable Kingwa supplied with the M7 did sound a little better but I think that was due to it having a ferrite core filter built in.  My guess is that you should be able to add a cheap ferrite core filter to any usb cable and achieve the same results.

post #1322 of 3492
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Originally Posted by seaice View Post
 

I have decided to stuck with the embedded M7 USB32 a little bit longer. However, I would like to try a better USB cable just for fun. I don't believe in digital cables but the sceptic in me would like to hear it.

 

Has anyone tried any of the so-called "audiophile" USB cables with the M7?

 

I would like to try the Wireworld Ultraviolet or Wireworld Starlight. Is it a good choice for the M7? Any experience and/or tips?

 

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And one of the interesting posts: http://www.head-fi.org/t/681542/anyone-heard-own-usb-wireworld-starlight-starlight-7-or-starlight-usb-3-0/15#post_10075280

 

Wireworld is kind of expensive for what they offer, try to aim for occ copper or occ silver (and possibly cryo'd). Cabledyne offers an occ silver cyro'd usb cable, if you want to try that initially. 

post #1323 of 3492
+1 to Purrin USB cables are difficult to recommend. Just try a few. IMHO dont get hung up about metal type, I have tried cables with OCC cryo etc that sound worse than cables with lesser quality metals. Other things like dielectric, geometry etc are also important.
Edited by drez - 2/11/14 at 5:30pm
post #1324 of 3492

I quite like the Kimber B BUS Cu USB cable. It has ferrite cores on both ends, higher gauge wire for power and is around 6% silver plated so it is a bit different in construction and its not entirely a rip off price wise for below $100.

post #1325 of 3492
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Originally Posted by bowtung View Post
 

Don't know about that change, but I ordered my Master 7 and asked Kingwa to directly solder the i2s rj45 cable into the board instead of having the port, and he didn't charge me anything.

 

Will be getting my master 7 in mid Feb :) 

 

Mid Feb , keep me updated I bought it last friday when did you buy it :P?

 

in the end I just asked kingwa to make the i2s rj45 compatible with off ramp 5.

post #1326 of 3492
Yea. What model offramp 5 and you should by there cat 7 cable
Al
post #1327 of 3492
Ordered right before Chinese New Year, end of January. I'm actually heading for a business trip for half a year, prob mid Feb. Don't really know how this is all going to turn out....won't even have time to try my new gear.....how much I love my job
post #1328 of 3492
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Yea. What model offramp 5 and you should by there cat 7 cable
Al

 

I'm so used to seeing you as a car that I keep forgetting it's you.

post #1329 of 3492
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Yea. What model offramp 5 and you should by there cat 7 cable
Al

 

 

Not buying it yet , Don't want to spend so much.

post #1330 of 3492

I'm looking for some advice...

 

I am considering getting a Master 7, but it is an end of life product.  Would I be better off just waiting it out for the next big DAC or, because the Master 7 is the 'ultimate' 1704 design, should I jump on this because it will take years for another unit to have the mechanical maturity of the M7?

 

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

Thank you,

 

-Paul

post #1331 of 3492
That is a tough answer. I think part of the answer is it does not do dsd. And the USB could be better too.

Al
post #1332 of 3492

The first question I would ask is if you have a good transport or do you plan on using USB? The M7 seems to be highly dependent upon transport and the USB is merely decent making for a good DAC, but not great DAC.

 

Even if the M7 is nearing end-of-life, there will always be something which is the next big thing, especially once the M7 goes away. It's simply the law of the universe. Personally, I'm looking forward to the new Schiit TOTL DAC. Knowing Mike Moffat and how he's ranted against sigma-delta, DSD, etc, one would assume they are probably going with a similar type of sound - except maybe even more explosive and dynamic.

post #1333 of 3492
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Originally Posted by purrin View Post
 

The first question I would ask is if you have a good transport or do you plan on using USB? The M7 seems to be highly dependent upon transport and the USB is merely decent making for a good DAC, but not great DAC.

 

Even if the M7 is nearing end-of-life, there will always be something which is the next big thing, especially once the M7 goes away. It's simply the law of the universe. Personally, I'm looking forward to the new Schiit TOTL DAC. Knowing Mike Moffat and how he's ranted against sigma-delta, DSD, etc, one would assume they are probably going with a similar type of sound - except maybe even more explosive and dynamic.

 

Well that's the thing.  I would be using USB, but doesn't something like an Offramp or an Audiophilleo remedy this issue?  

 

Oddly enough, the Ygg is the DAC I would be waiting for instead of the M7.  I was reading about DSD and, well, I'm not a tech guy for things like this so my eyes tend to glaze over...  In layman's terms, what exactly is it supposed to do...  For the end sound?  It sounded like it was more of a storage method or something for SACD.  Either way, is it something worth waiting for?  

post #1334 of 3492
DSD is a format. Meaning the way the music is stored and played back
post #1335 of 3492
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Well that's the thing.  I would be using USB, but doesn't something like an Offramp or an Audiophilleo remedy this issue?  

 

 

The USB 32 with new firmware is equal to the Audiophilleo.  I just sold my Audiophilleo with Pure Power about 2 weeks ago after I upgraded the USB32 firmware.  I know there are alot of people who really like the OR5 but I don't think its superiority is that cut and dry.  I have not heard OR5 so I have no idea if I would think it superior to others I've heard.  However after reading tons of comparisons and reviews between the OR5 and the Audiophilleo one thing was constant: people who thought the OR5 was too dark preferred the Audiophilleo, people who do not think the OR5 is dark or think the audiophilleo is bright prefer the OR5.  I know some will disagree but I think its a taste issue and also a system synergy issue and you won't know which you like better until you hear all of them. 

 

The M7 is the best digital source I have heard and that includes some very high regarded cd players eg. Tentlabs CD Player, Onix XCD-50, BAT VKD5 SE,  BMC BDCD1.  I prefered the M7 to these on direct comparion in the rigs of several of my audiophile friends.  

 

If you plan to move to DSD then go in a different direction.  If you want awesome redbook to 192khz sound then get the M7.


Edited by ciphercomplete - 2/13/14 at 7:06am
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