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post #1126 of 3518
Ok toooo much shorthand here. NOS ?? Help,out a retard. Please
post #1127 of 3518

Non-Oversampling or New-old stock.  In this context = Non-Oversampling.

post #1128 of 3518
Ohh , I get it now. I never played with that feature in kingwa,s dacs. And from what I read from king was and others it sounds best the way it's shipped. As I admire all those who play around I just can't seem to find the time to do it. But it is really cool the read about those who have .

Al. D
post #1129 of 3518
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

From what I've heard on both.  The HEX does red book and female vocals better.  The Master 7 extracts more detail and may resolve a tad bit better (maybe).  Yes the Master 7 has a wider soundstage and the Hex is more intimate still - not by much.  I'm now liking the NOS sound on my RED Book files.  I never got a chance to listen to the M7 in NOS mode, so the sound may change a bit. 

 

The HEX sounds closer to the AMR than the M7 does. 

It all really comes down to personal taste and system synergy. I liked the Hex but in my setup it lacked a convincing soundstage and wasn't as resolving as the Auralic Vega, Lampizator gen 4 or the Master 7. As of late, my decision on what gear to keep have been base more on how much I enjoy them over an extended period of time than on technicalities. I'm so happy with Master 7 and Lampizator sound I've ended my DAC search. 

post #1130 of 3518
Please do a quick comparison. Of the two.

Al d
post #1131 of 3518
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Originally Posted by cradon View Post
 

It all really comes down to personal taste and system synergy. I liked the Hex but in my setup it lacked a convincing soundstage and wasn't as resolving as the Auralic Vega, Lampizator gen 4 or the Master 7. As of late, my decision on what gear to keep have been base more on how much I enjoy them over an extended period of time than on technicalities. I'm so happy with Master 7 and Lampizator sound I've ended my DAC search. 

 

Same here. Sense I'm really into soulful female vocals (thanks to the AMR) my next DAC may be the HEX for that reason.  The NOS DACs bring the music to life.  Hell If I could afford a good Audio Note DAC (not a kit) I'll go that route. 

post #1132 of 3518
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Originally Posted by cradon View Post
 

It all really comes down to personal taste and system synergy. I liked the Hex but in my setup it lacked a convincing soundstage and wasn't as resolving as the Auralic Vega, Lampizator gen 4 or the Master 7. As of late, my decision on what gear to keep have been base more on how much I enjoy them over an extended period of time than on technicalities. I'm so happy with Master 7 and Lampizator sound I've ended my DAC search. 

 

That's interesting.

Also, what source are you using these DAC with? I see you sold the Auraliti PK90: can you explain the reasons?

 

I think the F1J and HE-6 combo require a warm (or smooth, at least) DAC, like the PWD2 or AMR. In this case the HEX would do a better job than the Master-7 if it really is warmer.

 

Take an Aleph J instead and you might have preferred the Master-7, then. 

post #1133 of 3518
What does a MSB DAC do ? Is it a NOS or not. I know I can set up sample or not and a whole lot of options I will need to read up on. .

Al. D
post #1134 of 3518
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

It could be why the trinity DAC cost 60k.

 

One of the reasons that DAC's so expensive is they buy a lot more PCM1704s than they use. They're apparently pre-selecting the ones with lowest THD+N. So if Kingwa spoke to them nicely he might score some of their surplus chips at a more affordable price.

post #1135 of 3518
Exactly. Did you read the numbers of them tested they are claiming it's about one thousand at a time . So how could there be that many available . I'm thinking that the trinity claims this , but does not test that many. Also it eliminates copy cats as the chips are no longer being made.
Edited by ALRAINBOW - 1/3/14 at 4:52pm
post #1136 of 3518
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post
 

 

That's interesting.

Also, what source are you using these DAC with? I see you sold the Auraliti PK90: can you explain the reasons?

 

I think the F1J and HE-6 combo require a warm (or smooth, at least) DAC, like the PWD2 or AMR. In this case the HEX would do a better job than the Master-7 if it really is warmer.

 

Take an Aleph J instead and you might have preferred the Master-7, then. 

My source is a MacBook Pro with Audirvana Plus. I returned the PK 90 because I didn't care for its user interface.

 

Best way to choose gear is to live with it in your system with your music.

 

The Lampizator is warm and smooth like the Hex while being just as resolving to more resolving than the Master 7 except in the treble where the M7 highlights things a little more. The Lampi is a highly customizable tube DAC so its sound can be changed with tubes, caps etc.

post #1137 of 3518
Thanks. Well said
post #1138 of 3518
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

 

Same here. Sense I'm really into soulful female vocals (thanks to the AMR) my next DAC may be the HEX for that reason.  The NOS DACs bring the music to life.  Hell If I could afford a good Audio Note DAC (not a kit) I'll go that route. 

Bringing the music to life is the main reason I like the Lampi, it also has better resolution and soundstaging than the Hex.

post #1139 of 3518
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Originally Posted by cradon View Post
 

Bringing the music to life is the main reason I like the Lampi, it also has better resolution and soundstaging than the Hex.

 

In fact I will be hearing a Lampi G4 L4 this weekend in a speaker rig with a pre amp.  I will know about it's sound very soon.

post #1140 of 3518
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

Exactly. Did you read the numbers of them tested they are claiming it's about one thousand at a time . So how could there be that many available . I'm thinking that the trinity claims this , but does not test that many. Also it eliminates copy cats as the chips are no longer being made.


We probably both read the same post - Adam on WBF.. TI still makes them, they just don't recommend anyone begins a new design with them (NRND status).

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