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post #421 of 460
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Originally Posted by Speakerphile View Post

Listening to the Momentum and Amperior right now...

 

 

Starting out with build.  I feel as though the Momentum wins hands down.  To me, the Amperior feels like a fairly cheap headphone.  Save for the aluminum ear cups, the rest is plastic.  The most suspect pieces are the plastic slides that are used to adjust the ear cups.  I am just not confident that these would hold up well over time.  The Momentum obviously uses a metal headband and overall just feels like a more solid package.  The leather on the headband looks well stitched and the logo's appear to be laser etched on small metal badges vs. the poorly painted on logo's that the Amperior has.  This is really no comparison.  Anyone that sees both of these headphones will find that the build and feel of these headphones are on opposite sides of the spectrum.  

 

Comfort.  I found the Amperior very comfortable.  The felt-like ear pads stay fairly cool during long listening sessions and the headphones are fairly easy to position correctly.  A few criticisms though are the clamping force feels a little tight and the adjustment sliders don't like to hold their position while you make minor adjustments.  The Momentum is really just as comfortable, but in a different way.  The leather touch-points on the ear pads and the inside of the headband are very soft and feel good to the touch.  Since this is a circumaural, there is little to no pressure on the ear.  Ear cup size, as discussed, is a little on the small side.  Luckily, this was not an issue as my ears fit perfectly inside the headphones.  Clamping force is less than the Amperior, but still very firm.  Neither headphone is going anywhere while you move around.  A criticism of the Momentum would be that while the leather appears to be great quality, it is still leather, and does get a little warm over long listening sessions.  I would give this to the Momentum, though it is fairly close.  Most that like one, may not like the other though.  Again, they are very different in the way they fit.  

 

Sound.  This one was a little harder to judge.  Again, very different headphones.  The Amperior does have a more neutral sound signature for starters, with the punch up in bass on the Momentum quite obvious.  It wasn't so much that it ruined the sound for me though.  It was dependent on the genre.  For classic rock, like Skynyrd, I felt it took away from the overall sound, clouding the vocals a little bit. The bass was deeper, but much less precise than the Amperior.  That said, it was still more precise than other lesser forms of cans.  On O.A.R. though, I kind of liked the Momentum version.  The vocals were high enough frequency to escape the low end fiddling by Sennheiser, which allowed both to jump out on the track.  Both headphones were incredibly detailed, though the Amperior being less affected by enhanced bass seemed to come across a little more articulate.  I would fault the Amperior for being a little shrill, though this is less apparent when not A/B'ing the two.  I would have to give the edge, overall, to the Amperior.  I will say though that I tend to prefer neutral headphones.  If you like a little additional bass though, the Momentum is a STRONG contender.  I would really like to hear a version with less bass, and maybe a machined aluminum ear cup!  Combined, they would really be the best of both worlds.  The fit, finish and style of the Momentum, with the sound of the Amperior!  I can dream, can't I?

 

For reference, I listened to both headphones via my Pioneer Elite SX-A9MK2-K 2ch integrated amp.  I listened to various tracks/genres encoded in ALAC out to the Burr-Brown USB DAC on the aforementioned amp.        


Great comparison.  Now I am curious for Momentum vs. Yamaha Pro 500 as it has aluminum cups.

post #422 of 460
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Great comparison.  Now I am curious for Momentum vs. Yamaha Pro 500 as it has aluminum cups.

 

I am skeptical of Yamaha, but would love to give them a listen.  I am sure I will hear them eventually.    

post #423 of 460

I will also add that, contrary to what you might expect, the Momentum unequivocally crushes the Amperior when listening to the likes of Guetta, Deadmau5 or Gartner...eek.gif

post #424 of 460

Hope you're enjoying both Amperior and MOMENTUM. Thank you for this comparison, Speakerphile!

post #425 of 460
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Originally Posted by Speakerphile View Post

 

 

Listening to the Momentum and Amperior right now...

 

 

Starting out with build.  I feel as though the Momentum wins hands down.  To me, the Amperior feels like a fairly cheap headphone.  Save for the aluminum ear cups, the rest is plastic.  The most suspect pieces are the plastic slides that are used to adjust the ear cups.  I am just not confident that these would hold up well over time.  The Momentum obviously uses a metal headband and overall just feels like a more solid package.  The leather on the headband looks well stitched and the logo's appear to be laser etched on small metal badges vs. the poorly painted on logo's that the Amperior has.  This is really no comparison.  Anyone that sees both of these headphones will find that the build and feel of these headphones are on opposite sides of the spectrum.  

 

Comfort.  I found the Amperior very comfortable.  The felt-like ear pads stay fairly cool during long listening sessions and the headphones are fairly easy to position correctly.  A few criticisms though are the clamping force feels a little tight and the adjustment sliders don't like to hold their position while you make minor adjustments.  The Momentum is really just as comfortable, but in a different way.  The leather touch-points on the ear pads and the inside of the headband are very soft and feel good to the touch.  Since this is a circumaural, there is little to no pressure on the ear.  Ear cup size, as discussed, is a little on the small side.  Luckily, this was not an issue as my ears fit perfectly inside the headphones.  Clamping force is less than the Amperior, but still very firm.  Neither headphone is going anywhere while you move around.  A criticism of the Momentum would be that while the leather appears to be great quality, it is still leather, and does get a little warm over long listening sessions.  I would give this to the Momentum, though it is fairly close.  Most that like one, may not like the other though.  Again, they are very different in the way they fit.  

 

Sound.  This one was a little harder to judge.  Again, very different headphones.  The Amperior does have a more neutral sound signature for starters, with the punch up in bass on the Momentum quite obvious.  It wasn't so much that it ruined the sound for me though.  It was dependent on the genre.  For classic rock, like Skynyrd, I felt it took away from the overall sound, clouding the vocals a little bit. The bass was deeper, but much less precise than the Amperior.  That said, it was still more precise than other lesser forms of cans.  On O.A.R. though, I kind of liked the Momentum version.  The vocals were high enough frequency to escape the low end fiddling by Sennheiser, which allowed both to jump out on the track.  Both headphones were incredibly detailed, though the Amperior being less affected by enhanced bass seemed to come across a little more articulate.  I would fault the Amperior for being a little shrill, though this is less apparent when not A/B'ing the two.  I would have to give the edge, overall, to the Amperior.  I will say though that I tend to prefer neutral headphones.  If you like a little additional bass though, the Momentum is a STRONG contender.  I would really like to hear a version with less bass, and maybe a machined aluminum ear cup!  Combined, they would really be the best of both worlds.  The fit, finish and style of the Momentum, with the sound of the Amperior!  I can dream, can't I?

 

It would be a hard choice considering all of the above factors, to decide on one for myself.  I am a sucker for a well designed product, made with premium materials.  On the other hand, I am quite critical of unnatural sounding audio.  I would probably buy the Amperior to wear at home, and the Momentum to wear in public...  

 

For reference, I listened to both headphones via my Pioneer Elite SX-A9MK2-K 2ch integrated amp.  I listened to various tracks/genres encoded in ALAC out to the Burr-Brown USB DAC on the aforementioned amp.        

Very nice review! Thank you.

post #426 of 460
I haven't seen the Momentum yet but I hope that all of those who are criticizing the Amperior/HD-25 series know that it's a design from 1987 which has stood the test of time. It's one of the most heavily used professional headphones for audio monitoring, whether it's DJs or news crews or whatever.

The Momentum looks great, but for it to even come close to the HD-25 series, it needs 20+ years of success in the market.
post #427 of 460
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Originally Posted by gkanai View Post

I haven't seen the Momentum yet but I hope that all of those who are criticizing the Amperior/HD-25 series know that it's a design from 1987 which has stood the test of time. It's one of the most heavily used professional headphones for audio monitoring, whether it's DJs or news crews or whatever.
The Momentum looks great, but for it to even come close to the HD-25 series, it needs 20+ years of success in the market.

 

Edit: My first post was too cocky.

 

I'm getting a pair delivered to me next week some time. If you're free, some of the Tokyo Head-Fiers could do a meet and you can bring your HD-25's along to compare and contrast. Won't be able to get it in time for this Friday's meet though, sorry.

post #428 of 460
Nice comparison speakerphile.
post #429 of 460
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Originally Posted by gkanai View Post

I haven't seen the Momentum yet but I hope that all of those who are criticizing the Amperior/HD-25 series know that it's a design from 1987 which has stood the test of time. It's one of the most heavily used professional headphones for audio monitoring, whether it's DJs or news crews or whatever.
The Momentum looks great, but for it to even come close to the HD-25 series, it needs 20+ years of success in the market.

 

It does not need 20+ years of success to compare with anything.  If you are specifically talking about sales success, it goes without saying.  You also have to keep in mind, Sennheiser released the Amperior as a "new" product.  It is fair game, especially at the price it is commanding.  We're not debating the lifetime achievements of a series of headphones.  Merely how a new model compares with other models.  If I say that the Momentum has a better build quality than the Amperior, I am not condemning everything the HD-25 stands for.  I am saying it is simply manufactured to a higher standard with better materials.  20 years of success means absolutely NOTHING in that comparison, and it shouldn't.   

post #430 of 460

As the construction of the Amperior seems unchanged from the HD25 there should by no concerns regarding its durability: the HD25 can stand some serious abuse before breaking. Nevertheless I cannot warm to the looks of the Amperior (while I do like the original design): in that regard the Momentum is the clear winner. Nevertheless I would not use it for DJing (which it obviously is not intended to be used for)... Its seems much more fragile to me.

post #431 of 460
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As the construction of the Amperior seems unchanged from the HD25 there should by no concerns regarding its durability: the HD25 can stand some serious abuse before breaking. Nevertheless I cannot warm to the looks of the Amperior (while I do like the original design): in that regard the Momentum is the clear winner. Nevertheless I would not use it for DJing (which it obviously is not intended to be used for)... Its seems much more fragile to me.

It is probably more durable than I give it credit for.  It's just the plastic.  It looks so CHEAP.  At least use nicer plastic, or GASP, metal.  If this really was supposed to be the "lifestyle" version of the HD-25, they certainly fell short.  The price didn't though...

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post #433 of 460
Hi, could you explain why you are selling it?
post #434 of 460
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Hi, could you explain why you are selling it?

I already did in my post: http://www.head-fi.org/t/629120/for-sale-sennheiser-momentum-like-new

 

In short: too much bass for my taste.

post #435 of 460

M-13 if you had to pick one..... the Momentum or hd-600's ? .......or is it not a fair comparison ?

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