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post #286 of 333

Really disagree with the previous post. The JVCs have pretty harsh lower treble/upper mids, and don't have the treble crispness or spatial depth of the TDK. They're pretty in-your-face, which isn't to everybody's taste, and are grainier and less refined than the TDK. 

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post #287 of 333
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Originally Posted by quartertone View Post
 

Really disagree with the previous post. The JVCs have pretty harsh lower treble/upper mids, and don't have the treble crispness or spatial depth of the TDK. They're pretty in-your-face, which isn't to everybody's taste, and are grainier and less refined than the TDK. 

now you see, that's how the JVC's are OUT OF THE BOX. I can completely agree with you on that description, but after over 100 hours of burn in, aggressive blasting of the drivers with deep bass, and now with a nice ios app for EQ that Inks suggested, the JVC's have such smooth articulation in the treble and soundstage/depth/space have really opened up and they shine. I can't take them off. I've been trying to use my almost equally as good VSD1S and EP1's, but the sheer dynamism of the details and presentation I'm getting from the JVC's are making hard even for my UE 700's to get any play. Making me second guess wanting to get the Philips S2's. I sold my IE800's to a head-fi'er, so I'm looking forward to hearing his impressions when he gets them in?

post #288 of 333

My JVCs are well-toasted.

post #289 of 333
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Originally Posted by IEMagnet01 View Post
 

now you see, that's how the JVC's are OUT OF THE BOX. I can completely agree with you on that description, but after over 100 hours of burn in, aggressive blasting of the drivers with deep bass, and now with a nice ios app for EQ that Inks suggested, the JVC's have such smooth articulation in the treble and soundstage/depth/space have really opened up and they shine. I can't take them off. I've been trying to use my almost equally as good VSD1S and EP1's, but the sheer dynamism of the details and presentation I'm getting from the JVC's are making hard even for my UE 700's to get any play. Making me second guess wanting to get the Philips S2's. I sold my IE800's to a head-fi'er, so I'm looking forward to hearing his impressions when he gets them in?

 

 

I'll definitely chime in.  I had some good luck yesterday as my UM3X is back working so I've got more IEMs on hand with which to compare.  I've got Phonak PFEs as well that just arrived, although I'm already wishing I had grey filters for them. 

 

I'm okay if they're mostly neutral in the bass region as the Phonaks can be dialed in to be bassy and the UM3X is fairly bassy.  These are most likely going to be for the gym. 

 

I'm intrigued by the dynamic driver and am pleased to hear it isolates well compared to other dynamic IEMs.  I came close to getting the BA200 a couple of times.  I'm sure I'd have preferred the ergonomics of the BA200, but when people were saying they were very comparable I figured the IE800 by definition should be a better value. 

 

It's awesome how much value there is in the $75 price range nowadays. 

 

That said, I was so happy to put the UM3X's back in my ears after such a long time.  It's close to my grail. 

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Originally Posted by roy_jones View Post
 

 

 

I'll definitely chime in.  I had some good luck yesterday as my UM3X is back working so I've got more IEMs on hand with which to compare.  I've got Phonak PFEs as well that just arrived, although I'm already wishing I had grey filters for them. 

 

I'm okay if they're mostly neutral in the bass region as the Phonaks can be dialed in to be bassy and the UM3X is fairly bassy.  These are most likely going to be for the gym. 

 

I'm intrigued by the dynamic driver and am pleased to hear it isolates well compared to other dynamic IEMs.  I came close to getting the BA200 a couple of times.  I'm sure I'd have preferred the ergonomics of the BA200, but when people were saying they were very comparable I figured the IE800 by definition should be a better value. 

 

It's awesome how much value there is in the $75 price range nowadays. 

 

That said, I was so happy to put the UM3X's back in my ears after such a long time.  It's close to my grail. 

The IE800's are almost identical to the sound sig of the BA200, with the exception of the slightly better bass weight of the IE800. I'm not going to say that the IE800 have more articulate bass than the 200's, BUT the weight and thickness of the bass is better than the BA's. So I think you do get a better deal with the dual dynamics, plus the fit might be better? 

post #291 of 333

Yeah, it's amazing that TDK was able to get a similar sound out of two different technologies the way they seem to have- I attribute it to the fancy tuning gadget that Rin mentioned in his reviews.  I'm a believer that with enough EQ, you can get many headphones/IEMs to sound similar. 

 

I'll be curious about the fit.  I still have my UE triple.fi 10s that I never use because I absolutely hate their fit.  I'm also partial to mid-centric IEMs and headphones and don't like the sucked mids of the UE. 

post #292 of 333

The IE800's are mid centric, so you get your mids in spades, and honestly, smooth as melted butter. The fit was a bit of a downer for me. One of the two reasons I sold. They are more bullet shaped than the hulking bolts of hell my UE TF 10's were, but that's something so individual, it's a wait and see for you.

post #293 of 333

I am over the moon with these things.  If there is a better value in an IEM I'll be a monkey's uncle.  This is my first dynamic driver IEM and I am an instant convert.  It can do soundstage unlike anything I've previously heard, but again I've only had BA IEMs. 

 

I consider this my best head-fi purchase ever and I've been around here a while.  I've been curious about whether their treble would be too hot, but with comply's I don't find it too forward. 

 

I am really intrigued now about some of the higher end dynamic IEMs.  I'm not crazy about their ergonomics and still haven't figured out how to use them in my preferred over-the-ear style. 

 

It's funny, I was so convinced I wasn't going to like a dynamic driver compared to BA.

 

I like these better than my UM3X, and it's not really that close.  I still can't quite get my head around that. 


Edited by roy_jones - 12/9/13 at 6:16pm
post #294 of 333

Alright Roy! I see the goods I sent you got there safe and sound...and you love them?? That makes it all worthwhile then on all counts. 


Edited by IEMagnet01 - 12/9/13 at 8:06pm
post #295 of 333
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Originally Posted by roy_jones View Post
 

I am over the moon with these things.  If there is a better value in an IEM I'll be a monkey's uncle.  This is my first dynamic driver IEM and I am an instant convert.  It can do soundstage unlike anything I've previously heard, but again I've only had BA IEMs. 

 

I consider this my best head-fi purchase ever and I've been around here a while.  I've been curious about whether their treble would be too hot, but with comply's I don't find it too forward. 

 

I am really intrigued now about some of the higher end dynamic IEMs.  I'm not crazy about their ergonomics and still haven't figured out how to use them in my preferred over-the-ear style. 

 

It's funny, I was so convinced I wasn't going to like a dynamic driver compared to BA.

 

I like these better than my UM3X, and it's not really that close.  I still can't quite get my head around that. 

Better than your UM3X?! WOW! I've heard those are close to as top end universals as you can get. If your TDK IE800's even come close, then you truly got one of the best bang for buck IEM's. Right now I'm auditioning the VSONIC VSD1S, FIDELIO S2, and T-PEOS H-100, and at this point I prefer the VSONICS, but it's still too early to tell if they are the better IEM.

post #296 of 333

After I posted that I went back in the thread because I figured I couldn't be the only one to have heard them this way, and sure enough there is a Member of the Trade who posted that he thinks they're in the same league as top tier universals.  I'm really intrigued by the BA200 because they must be really good to be comparable. 

 

It all comes down to the soundstage.  I've never heard anything half as convincing in an IEM.  I'm now convinced that vented dynamics is the only way to go and I can see why AKG and Senn went that direction. 

 

I can see how some would find the upper mids a little dry and the treble a little harsh for their taste.  These remind me of a Grado shrunk down to IEM size. 

 

It's always funny when you get an IEM because you go back on reviews and they make sense in a different way.  I'm very surprised these aren't more popular than they are. 

post #297 of 333

the BA 200 and IE800 are almost identical in sound signature, except for the BA 200 doesn't have the bass depth and weight that the IE800 has. The mids and highs are almost identical, and separation and imaging aren't far off from each other either, but the BA has that anemic balanced armature bass that turns people off. my BA's are ok. I usually EQ the bass up just before distortion level, and I'm fine. 

post #298 of 333

I'm amazed that the BA200 is as good as the IE800 because the soundstage of the IE800 seems like it would be impossible to replicate in a BA IEM. 

 

It really seems like I'm listening to a full sized open headphone as opposed to the closed in headstage that I'm so used to with in-ears.  It's why my natural impulse was to compare them to Grados instead of other IEMs I've heard.  Even if other monitors do better on tonal balance or speed, there's just no way to replicate the air movement effect of the dynamic driver.  The fact these still seal fairly well was a big selling point for me and a reason I'd avoided dynamics in the past.
 

I'm extremely curious about an upgrade from the IE800.  Ive been curious about the DUNU hybrid, but after this I'm skeptical about being able to find something much better. 

post #299 of 333

Unless you're willing to shell out $700-1000 for the AKG, Tralucent, or Ultrasone, then you're getting something with issues. I just got the T-PEOS H100 hybrid TODAY, along with the S2's, and the mids are very recessed. The clarity and instrument separation are great due to the BA, but the mids are distant. I'm not sure what an upgrade for the IE800 would be, but it might be in a triple or quad ba driver IEM, or the JVC FXZ 100/200 series multi dynamic driver set?? Otherwise, I'd probably enjoy your magnificent find for awhile, and research along the way?


Edited by IEMagnet01 - 12/10/13 at 12:17am
post #300 of 333

Total nonsense about hybrids - based on what, one experience? The H-200, the recent Dunu DN-1000 or the Astrotec AX60 are on a different level. 

 

Edit: funny that you call the H-100 sound pathetic, then write "World class clarity" in your sale classified...


Edited by quartertone - 12/9/13 at 11:58pm
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