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First time poster, but long time reader. I pretty much want these headphones the sound signature and comfory is there; however, I won't fork over 180 for these cans if they have QC issues. Have the jack rattle and creaking issues resolved or should I pass?

I receieved them new from Amazon and I did not get the creaking problem. If you buy them from Amazon and you do get the creaking problem, Amazon has a great return policy where you can either get a free replacement or a full refund with free shipping.

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Okay because it's hard to find good sound plus comfort which is big for me. Thanks for the info
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I also want to ask are the QC issues resolved or is it still a crapshoot?
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I also want to ask are the QC issues resolved or is it still a crapshoot?

I had a pair from amazon as well & no creaking issues.

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Anyone explain why vocals seem so veiled and distant/hollow and to add to my confusion only on some tracks but to some degree on all and then on occasion not at all on others. I know - not consistent !! I keep checking my source to see if the cable is inserted properly or loose. After a week of burn-in I was beginning to enjoy these but the vocal hollowness is not something I could get used too. I intended doing the Dynamat mod ( as I've done it to my Denons in the past ) but I'm not sure if I should just sell then on while there still new and unscathed ! I don't really want to though as I've decided I really like them physically despite the plasticy-ness of them, they still feel like a slick quality product overall.! Oh what to do. 

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Anyone explain why vocals seem so veiled and distant/hollow and to add to my confusion only on some tracks but to some degree on all and then on occasion not at all on others. I know - not consistent !! I keep checking my source to see if the cable is inserted properly or loose. After a week of burn-in I was beginning to enjoy these but the vocal hollowness is not something I could get used too. I intended doing the Dynamat mod ( as I've done it to my Denons in the past ) but I'm not sure if I should just sell then on while there still new and unscathed ! I don't really want to though as I've decided I really like them physically despite the plasticy-ness of them, they still feel like a slick quality product overall.! Oh what to do. 

Maybe because you were used to your prior headphones? The veil you're referring to is due to the treble roll off and the emphasis on upper bass and lower mids, so it has a thicker sound to the vocals (some would say muddy), I like this as it's less shrill and combined with the comfort it makes for a relaxed listen. I like these I do, but I too feel that the cheap plastic is a bit of a let down. They're not the last word in clarity but they are still impressively detailed (given the sound signature) and I like the open sound, but instrument separation and layering is surprisingly not great given the the width and height of the stage. I preferred these to the momentum for the longest time, alas the earpads on the momentum have gotten a little roomier with use and softer so it's still a snug fit but bearable now and the sound is similar although more defined and textured on the Momentum with impressive imaging and layering, plus the bass extension is better. I'm still a sony fanboy tho so I hope they keep making better and better headphones
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Maybe because you were used to your prior headphones? The veil you're referring to is due to the treble roll off and the emphasis on upper bass and lower mids, so it has a thicker sound to the vocals (some would say muddy), I like this as it's less shrill and combined with the comfort it makes for a relaxed listen. I like these I do, but I too feel that the cheap plastic is a bit of a let down. They're not the last word in clarity but they are still impressively detailed (given the sound signature) and I like the open sound, but instrument separation and layering is surprisingly not great given the the width and height of the stage. I preferred these to the momentum for the longest time, alas the earpads on the momentum have gotten a little roomier with use and softer so it's still a snug fit but bearable now and the sound is similar although more defined and textured on the Momentum with impressive imaging and layering, plus the bass extension is better. I'm still a sony fanboy tho so I hope they keep making better and better headphones

 

Yeah to my ears the vocals on my old Denons's are flawless and I've been using them for 6 years or so. I was concerned I was so used to their sound sig that I could never like any other headphone.  I have a lot of earbuds and iem's too and basically vocals all seem 'normal' to me  in comparison to the 1R's. On the positive side I have a wide range of interests in music including electronic trance , classical , movie soundtracks , all of which don't have vocals and what I hear there is great, really great. The sound reminds me of strong powerful speakers. Sometimes I'm going like 'wow that was good'. I have been burning these in every day and I swear they are so much better that they were when I got them, like hugely so. I am hearing plenty extra detail in music I didn't hear before especially noticeable in electronic music. That I really like. I don't think the vocal representation is gonna change though. I will do the dynamat bod eventually and maybe that may affect the vocals positively. 

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