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post #256 of 2732
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

 

 

 

Oh so pretty!!!

I WANT THESE!!!!!!!!! ;-)

post #257 of 2732
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Originally Posted by gkanai View Post
No, that is correct. That's one of the goals of this headphone- to capture even those frequencies that most people cannot hear.

To me this venture seems stupidly pointless. NO ONE can hear 80 KHz. It's physically impossible.

post #258 of 2732
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To me this venture seems stupidly pointless. NO ONE can hear 80 KHz. It's physically impossible.


well it makes it sound more impressive on paper

post #259 of 2732

If they can measure a response from the driver up to 80khz then why not blow that trumpet!

I cant hear over 16khz these days , there isnt much useful above that anyway , unless you are a dog.

 

Any Sony fans here should look for a book called "Digital Dreams - The Work Of The Sony Design Centre" , it a great read with some fabulous photos, i was not really well versed on industrial design but this book opened my eyes to the processes and plans Sony used for all their product lines.

post #260 of 2732
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To me this venture seems stupidly pointless. NO ONE can hear 80 KHz. It's physically impossible.

And man shouldn't be going to space and inventing slot machine tongue.gif
post #261 of 2732
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Originally Posted by takato14 View Post

To me this venture seems stupidly pointless. NO ONE can hear 80 KHz. It's physically impossible.

 

Hey, if Beats can magically "restore the quality lost in modern day file compression" then anything is possible.  rolleyes.gif

post #262 of 2732

It's marketing, it's not about if it could play frequencies only an alien could hear but if it can do 80kHz it must sound exceptionally great at 10kHz too! That's the reason for the big numbers, for people who knows no better buys it as; must be an exceptionally good sounding headphone. 

 

PS, I'm still curious to see PROOF of it being able to play 80kHz tones without dropping off significantly or distorting. ^^


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 10/2/12 at 9:07am
post #263 of 2732
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Originally Posted by warrenpchi View Post

 

Hey, if Beats can magically "restore the quality lost in modern day file compression" then anything is possible.  rolleyes.gif

I read most dog whistles operate in the 25kHz-44kHz range...approximately.  Most people only hear upto 20kHz.  

 

You know those annoying ringing machines that people hang outside their house to deter neighbors dogs, I can hear those.  I HATE those things.

Considering I'm human, I'm guessing those machines work at around 25kHz.  My friends can't hear them, so they must operate on the threshold between my limit and theirs.

Dogs can hear up to around 45Khz, cats to about 60kHz.

 

Hope that kind of puts into perspective how high 80kHz really is.  I'm not even sure if a dolphin can hear that high.

post #264 of 2732
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Originally Posted by astroid View Post

If they can measure a response from the driver up to 80khz then why not blow that trumpet!

I cant hear over 16khz these days , there isnt much useful above that anyway , unless you are a dog.

 

Any Sony fans here should look for a book called "Digital Dreams - The Work Of The Sony Design Centre" , it a great read with some fabulous photos, i was not really well versed on industrial design but this book opened my eyes to the processes and plans Sony used for all their product lines.

The thing is, dogs can only hear up to 60 KHz. I mean seriously, there's absolutely no point to that.

post #265 of 2732
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I read most dog whistles operate in the 25kHz-44kHz range...approximately.  Most people only hear upto 20kHz.  

 

You know those annoying ringing machines that people hang outside their house to deter neighbors dogs, I can hear those.  I HATE those things.

Considering I'm human, I'm guessing those machines work at around 25kHz.  My friends can't hear them, so they must operate on the threshold between my limit and theirs.

Dogs can hear up to around 45Khz, cats to about 60kHz.

 

Hope that kind of puts into perspective how high 80kHz really is.  I'm not even sure if a dolphin can hear that high.

 

Ugh, I hate those machines. I think it's actually a distortion or resonant peak I'm hearing though. Sometimes those buzzing noises are loud enough for me to actually discriminate, and I think the tones I hear are closer to the 12-15kHz range. 

post #266 of 2732
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Originally Posted by Eargasmo View Post

 

I read most dog whistles operate in the 25kHz-44kHz range...approximately.  Most people only hear upto 20kHz.  

Weird. I can hear dog whistles.

post #267 of 2732

I also can hear dog whistles.
 

post #268 of 2732

You see, that proves a point that the 80 khz is useful. Their marketing team not only cares about your audio bliss, but extend that love and care to your pets as well. I have seen alot headfier's avatar with dogs and cats on headphone, dogs could hear 40khz and cats at 60khz ... and rodents at 90khz. Sony's marketing team have it all covered my dear friends... bigsmile_face.gif

post #269 of 2732

Sony's numbers are always so crazy. I'm always wondering which of the two approaches their engineers are taking:

 

1. "Well, we'll just say it goes up to 80khz to somehow indicate the vague audio quality of the headphone. Since no consumer has the equipment to measure these numbers, and no consumer actually cares, it'll be fine."

2. "Well, we did some measurements and the driver seems to do *something* at 80khz. We'll just slap on a frequency response of up to 80khz without specifying the +/- x db range like other manufacturers."

 

Or the magical but unlikely third approach:

 

3. "Wow, these drivers go whiz bang right up to 80khz! Too bad no other manufacturer or consumer has equipment to reproduce these results. Let's watch Akira with Tsutomu Ōhashi again."

post #270 of 2732
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Originally Posted by takato14 View Post

To me this venture seems stupidly pointless. NO ONE can hear 80 KHz. It's physically impossible.
LOL it makes a good argument on YouTube videos.
Something along the lines of:
"Beats are crap, they only have a frequency range of 20Hz-20kHz. Buy Audio Technica because their frequency range is 15Hz-42kHz"
^ bigger = better
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