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post #166 of 2726

It's why I added the KNS-8400. wink.gif

post #167 of 2726
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Originally Posted by takato14 View Post

The XB1000 has the most (and best) bass of all 3. The 50mm driver from the R1NC is almost certainly bassier than the 40mm in the standard R1.

 

I'm just speaking of quantity now and XB1000 has the least bass of the 3, and XB500 the most. Driver size can't be related to bass quantity, so many extremely bassy 40mm drivers out there which puts 50mm drivers to shame in terms of sheer bass quantity (not quality).


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 9/14/12 at 12:46pm
post #168 of 2726

And when it does come to quality, the DT1350 has more detailed and better quality bass than the 8400. It has a bit more quantity as well.

post #169 of 2726

Either way this is totally off-topic. The MDR-R1NC won't be half as good as the standard due to the lower specs.

post #170 of 2726
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Wow, the NC version sucks... its harder to drive, has a crappier freq. range, and an even larger driver, which typically means lots and lots of bass... and nothing else.

 

I imagine the NC version sounds like a pair of Beats. Maybe worse. If that's even possible.

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Either way this is totally off-topic. The MDR-R1NC won't be half as good as the standard due to the lower specs.

 

Not that I really care one way or the other, but I don't understand how you could possibly know what a headphone sounds like based on likely meaningless frequency response beyond the range of human hearing, driver size, or the fact that it's spec'd slightly less easy to drive than something else but still overall easy to drive. How exactly does one judge a headphone without having ever having heard it, seen any meaningful data on it, or even the bear minimum of having read reviews? What are you even talking about? confused_face_2.gif


Edited by manveru - 9/14/12 at 1:42pm
post #171 of 2726
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Either way this is totally off-topic. The MDR-R1NC won't be half as good as the standard due to the lower specs.

I'm all up for specs and stuff, but my priorities of reading anything regarding headphones is always impressions=measurements >> specs. All we can do now is speculate and just wait for someone to compare between the NC and the non-NC 1R.

+1 to manveru, I agree.
post #172 of 2726
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Originally Posted by takato14 View Post

Either way this is totally off-topic. The MDR-R1NC won't be half as good as the standard due to the lower specs.

I'm all up for specs and stuff, but my priorities of reading anything regarding headphones is always impressions=measurements >> specs. All we can do now is speculate and just wait for someone to compare between the NC and the non-NC 1R.

+1 to manveru, I agree.

Honestly, just the fact that it has ANC means it will sound bad... ANC really does a number on the sound...

post #173 of 2726
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Honestly, just the fact that it has ANC means it will sound bad... ANC really does a number on the sound...

 

I won't be at all surprised if that turns out to be the case, but there's a first time for everything. In any case, I don't really care whether or not they sound worse, as good, or better since I don't have any interest in getting them. All I'm saying is, no one can say for sure until people have gotten their hands on them, so it doesn't make sense to state your predictions as if they were established facts. That is all.

post #174 of 2726

All I can say is, when I heard both the 1R and the NC model, I was impressed by the noise cancellation but had some issues with the sound, which seemed a little harsh with the ANC turned on. Since it was only a brief comparison I would hesitate to say much more. I can certainly say that neither models were bass monsters, though they were both a little dark.

 

But yes, making absolute statements about things that haven't been released yet based on specs that Sony has essentially made up is a bit silly. Sony's frequency response numbers are always a good laugh. 

 

The one curiosity I have is the 100mW maximum input figure on the NC model, which suggests to me a limitation in the amp circuitry (which seemingly cannot be bypassed) rather than the driver.

post #175 of 2726
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All I can say is, when I heard both the 1R and the NC model, I was impressed by the noise cancellation but had some issues with the sound, which seemed a little harsh with the ANC turned on. Since it was only a brief comparison I would hesitate to say much more. I can certainly say that neither models were bass monsters, though they were both a little dark.

 

But yes, making absolute statements about things that haven't been released yet based on specs that Sony has essentially made up is a bit silly. Sony's frequency response numbers are always a good laugh. 

 

The one curiosity I have is the 100mW maximum input figure on the NC model, which suggests to me a limitation in the amp circuitry (which seemingly cannot be bypassed) rather than the driver.

 

Oh yeah, I forgot you had a chance to audition them a couple pages back, haha.

 

The 100mW max input was the one thing that seemed a little curious.

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post #177 of 2726

Thanks a_rec for the neat and informative preview. beerchug.gif

 

For your description it appears the 1R has a very good tonality if it made the Z1000 sound 'boxed and wooly' in comparison, which is exactly the opposite from my own personal experience, despite their more reserved treble response. Looking forward to try them out next year, Defintely have the looks nailed in my book. cool.gif

post #178 of 2726

I've been wandering about the 1RBT:

 

1. Can one sync it with a bluetooth Android Phone to talk and make calls?

 

2. Can one sync it with a bluetooth laptop to make and take Skype calls?

 

3. Can one sync it with the bluetooth on the Wii/PS3 to use voice chat?

post #179 of 2726

Hmmm... it seems amazon started to list them as "out of stock" so I guess they are coming... (probably faster than V-MODA M100s too! LOL!)

post #180 of 2726
It can be ordered and deliver in 2-3 weeks. I am still thinking ....hmm
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