Sony has new headphones, MDR-1R - Page 12

It's why I added the KNS-8400.

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Originally Posted by takato14 

The XB1000 has the most (and best) bass of all 3. The 50mm driver from the R1NC is almost certainly bassier than the 40mm in the standard R1.

I'm just speaking of quantity now and XB1000 has the least bass of the 3, and XB500 the most. Driver size can't be related to bass quantity, so many extremely bassy 40mm drivers out there which puts 50mm drivers to shame in terms of sheer bass quantity (not quality).

And when it does come to quality, the DT1350 has more detailed and better quality bass than the 8400. It has a bit more quantity as well.

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Originally Posted by takato14 

Wow, the NC version sucks... its harder to drive, has a crappier freq. range, and an even larger driver, which typically means lots and lots of bass... and nothing else.

 

I imagine the NC version sounds like a pair of Beats. Maybe worse. If that's even possible.

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Originally Posted by takato14 

Either way this is totally off-topic. The MDR-R1NC won't be half as good as the standard due to the lower specs.

Not that I really care one way or the other, but I don't understand how you could possibly know what a headphone sounds like based on likely meaningless frequency response beyond the range of human hearing, driver size, or the fact that it's spec'd slightly less easy to drive than something else but still overall easy to drive. How exactly does one judge a headphone without having ever having heard it, seen any meaningful data on it, or even the bear minimum of having read reviews? What are you even talking about? 

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Originally Posted by takato14 

Honestly, just the fact that it has ANC means it will sound bad... ANC really does a number on the sound...

I won't be at all surprised if that turns out to be the case, but there's a first time for everything. In any case, I don't really care whether or not they sound worse, as good, or better since I don't have any interest in getting them. All I'm saying is, no one can say for sure until people have gotten their hands on them, so it doesn't make sense to state your predictions as if they were established facts. That is all.

All I can say is, when I heard both the 1R and the NC model, I was impressed by the noise cancellation but had some issues with the sound, which seemed a little harsh with the ANC turned on. Since it was only a brief comparison I would hesitate to say much more. I can certainly say that neither models were bass monsters, though they were both a little dark.

But yes, making absolute statements about things that haven't been released yet based on specs that Sony has essentially made up is a bit silly. Sony's frequency response numbers are always a good laugh. 

The one curiosity I have is the 100mW maximum input figure on the NC model, which suggests to me a limitation in the amp circuitry (which seemingly cannot be bypassed) rather than the driver.

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Originally Posted by a_recording 

All I can say is, when I heard both the 1R and the NC model, I was impressed by the noise cancellation but had some issues with the sound, which seemed a little harsh with the ANC turned on. Since it was only a brief comparison I would hesitate to say much more. I can certainly say that neither models were bass monsters, though they were both a little dark.

 

But yes, making absolute statements about things that haven't been released yet based on specs that Sony has essentially made up is a bit silly. Sony's frequency response numbers are always a good laugh. 

 

The one curiosity I have is the 100mW maximum input figure on the NC model, which suggests to me a limitation in the amp circuitry (which seemingly cannot be bypassed) rather than the driver.

Oh yeah, I forgot you had a chance to audition them a couple pages back, haha.

The 100mW max input was the one thing that seemed a little curious.

Thanks a_rec for the neat and informative preview.

For your description it appears the 1R has a very good tonality if it made the Z1000 sound 'boxed and wooly' in comparison, which is exactly the opposite from my own personal experience, despite their more reserved treble response. Looking forward to try them out next year, Defintely have the looks nailed in my book.

I've been wandering about the 1RBT:

1. Can one sync it with a bluetooth Android Phone to talk and make calls?

2. Can one sync it with a bluetooth laptop to make and take Skype calls?

3. Can one sync it with the bluetooth on the Wii/PS3 to use voice chat?

Hmmm... it seems amazon started to list them as "out of stock" so I guess they are coming... (probably faster than V-MODA M100s too! LOL!)