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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post

I have seen comments from a few people who had to fiddle with the connectors to get them to work and also have a friend who sent back the retail version he had because he didn't like the swivel connector plus he had issues with it connecting properly at the start. So I personally will be waiting several months to see if this potential issue turns out to be a non-issue or a real pain for the owners of the UE900. Having been burned by this issue with my Shure 215's I have ZERO desire to have the hassle of this problem on a $400 IEM. The only way I will change my mind is if the reviews of these from a sonic perspective intrigue me enough to want them AND a major chain retailer starts to carry them and can purchase an Instant product replacement plan.

 

I was one that had to do it. I did get it fixed, but UE wants to still look at it so they can, I assume (I know, I know), fix it for future productions of the 900s. UE is aware of this problem. These unforeseen problems are normally seen more from headphones that come first off the line. The second wave shouldn't have these. I could be wrong though. Furthermore, I'd like to address some misconceptions that may be out there. My 900s do work, I have been using them all day actually as something to listen to to and from school. The problem is gone, which means it's not there, nor can I force the problem to persist (I had to force the 900s to cut out when I first got them). I think it may have been some left over fluids from manufacturing that got into the right contact (light layer of grease) that cut out connection temporarily when moved. I can force a similar effect when I twist the headphone jack of my iPod back and forth. So they are not broken, and do function perfectly at this point in time. UE does want to look at the 900s though.
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I hear you tinyman. It's just after being on the burned end of the stick (SE215) when I was one of the ones who initially had no issues and having owned one fragile really expensive IEM in the SM3 I am very very reluctant to spend that much coin on something that might potentially have issues.

BTW I was thinking of Joe's comment about an initial scratchy connection and someone who is not a member of head-Fi in regards to my post.

I actually hope your right though :-)
post #468 of 4277
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Originally Posted by tinyman392 View Post

I was one that had to do it. I did get it fixed, but UE wants to still look at it so they can, I assume (I know, I know), fix it for future productions of the 900s. UE is aware of this problem. These unforeseen problems are normally seen more from headphones that come first off the line. The second wave shouldn't have these. I could be wrong though.Furthermore, I'd like to address some misconceptions that may be out there. My 900s do work, I have been using them all day actually as something to listen to to and from school. The problem is gone, which means it's not there, nor can I force the problem to persist (I had to force the 900s to cut out when I first got them). I think it may have been some left over fluids from manufacturing that got into the right contact (light layer of grease) that cut out connection temporarily when moved. I can force a similar effect when I twist the headphone jack of my iPod back and forth. So they are not broken, and do function perfectly at this point in time. UE does want to look at the 900s though.

My money's on this. I've owned a few pairs of IEM's that needed the jack cleaned before both channels would work, there's like a protective coating over them sometimes, which with a naked jack is easy to wipe quickly on opening, I think something similar occurred here. It would only take the smallest of grit to cancel the signal .. It's not like everyone's going to take the cable off and clean the connections on opening. Well, nore should they really have too.

I doubt the problem will happen again Tinyman.

I suggest if it happens to anyone else, don't freak out. Remove the cable then clean the contacts on both cable and earpiece.
Edited by H20Fidelity - 9/12/12 at 11:16pm
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Even if it is a manufacturing error for the first batch, it doesn't automatically mean the second or third batch will have this problem.  Phonak, for example had a bit of problems with their 1xx headphones originally causing them to lose signal in one ofthe earbuds.  Etymotic had a few problems in regards to their headphone jack on the EtyKids 3 pre-release model.  I ask the question, does this mean that we shouldn't trust Etymotic or Phonak quality?  I think not.  

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Agreed, I just don't want to be on the bleeding edge of that process.
post #471 of 4277
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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post

Agreed, I just don't want to be on the bleeding edge of that process.

valid point. 

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What did I say several pages up about connectors for replaceable cables being a potential point of failure again? tongue.gif

I hope it's not really a long term problem but didn't you say something about there being an exposed part of the connector from which debris can get in and continue to foul up the connection?
Edited by Joe Bloggs - 9/13/12 at 1:43am
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What did I say several pages up about connectors for replaceable cables being a potential point of failure again? tongue.gif
I hope it's not really a long term problem but didn't you say something about there being an exposed part of the connector from which debris can get in and continue to foul up the connection?


I've never understood the need to have removeable cables.  Had many sets of iems that didn't have that option and they are still going.  One of two (the infamous shure se215) had one and never did get a working set.  Offer a decent 2 year guarantee instead.

 

Cheers

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Originally Posted by Joe Bloggs View Post

What did I say several pages up about connectors for replaceable cables being a potential point of failure again? tongue.gif

I hope it's not really a long term problem but didn't you say something about there being an exposed part of the connector from which debris can get in and continue to foul up the connection?

Question is, was this failure? The headphones still work, and they aren't "failing". Even if so, it was still a poor, ignorant assumption. A broken clock I'd still right two times a day.
post #475 of 4277
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I've never understood the need to have removeable cables.  Had many sets of iems that didn't have that option and they are still going.  One of two (the infamous shure se215) had one and never did get a working set.  Offer a decent 2 year guarantee instead.

 

Cheers

 

You obviously didn't own any early Shure E500/530's with their cable hardening and cracking problems. ;)

 

Personally I'd much rather replace a cable than have to replace the whole IEM because of a cable failure.

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I've never understood the need to have removeable cables.  Had many sets of iems that didn't have that option and they are still going.  One of two (the infamous shure se215) had one and never did get a working set.  Offer a decent 2 year guarantee instead.

 

HF5, EP630, ADDIEM ... Several of my IEMs, and now my 4.A, have seen their cable fail. The HF5 had a two-year warranty; more two years later, the drivers still worked ... but the cable finally gave out, intermittently then completely, near the plug.


Edited by Sinocelt - 9/13/12 at 5:31am
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HF5, EP630, ADDIEM ... Several of my IEMs, and now my 4.A, have seen their cable fail. The HF5 had a two-year warranty; more two years later, the drivers still worked ... but the cable didn't (the cable failed near the plug).

 

Cables tend to be the first place an IEM will fail.  This is why we do removable cables :)  I'd rather replace a cable rather than replace the whole IEM itself.  

post #478 of 4277
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Originally Posted by tinyman392 View Post

 

Cables tend to be the first place an IEM will fail.  This is why we do removable cables :)  I'd rather replace a cable rather than replace the whole IEM itself.  

 

Question is, do IEMs with removable cables tend to fail in a way that can be fixed simply by replacing the cable?  Wait, don't answer me here--vote and post in this poll:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/627254/do-replaceable-cables-work

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As crazy as it sounds, even with all customs I have owned I NEVER once disconnected the cable from the housing.  Like said above, why would you ever need to?  I figured the first time you do that it creates a weak(er) point in the connection.

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As crazy as it sounds, even with all customs I have owned I NEVER once disconnected the cable from the housing.  Like said above, why would you ever need to?  I figured the first time you do that it creates a weak(er) point in the connection.

 

I tend to not do it either.  It's just the fact that they are able to that makes the difference though.  It's the ability to replace the part of the headphone that gets the most stress without replacing the whole headphone.  

 

I did get the 900s back today.  Everything is fine, the problem wasn't there either :)

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