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That was his goodbye present to UE (lump of coal), joking lol. very_evil_smiley.gif

 Not my cup of tea either but LOL.

post #212 of 3623
That's just unrealistic though. Prices DO change, both street and MSRP, so a review is only ever going to specify value according to the price the reviewer lists. People can do the math for themselves if the price changes, its not hard...
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Originally Posted by tinyman392 View Post

I understand your (and Joe's) point completely. 

I just want to put the idea into a different light.  Value is normally defined in a review.  It's targetted towards the price.  The review should be timeless (hold true intact of time).  If the price changes down the road, then the value score for a given review written at an earlier date becomes invalidated...  It isn't timeless. 

My statements come from an extremely review-oriented view.  That the person reading the review can be from a later date well down the time line, but also at current.  The only way this is possible is with MSRP comparison, not street price-MSRP (as street price can never be estimated; it varies from product to product).  Street price to street price isn't possible either since we don't know what the street price of the 9s will be (or any new product for that matter).  In my mind, it's not a fair comparison to take value into account with. 

I know I've said it enough times already, but I do want to bring up the person who discredited the Sennheiser Amperiors saying they were basically sh!t compared to the HD25 IIs because he could get the 25s for a couple hundred cheaper.  My response to that was the exact same one I gave here.  We shouldn't compare MSRP to a street price.  We should compare MSRP to MSRP and street price to street price.  Street price is dynamic.  It's never constant, and goes up and down. 

Essentially, it comes down to two different ideas about how we should compare headphone's pricing. 
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post #213 of 3623
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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post

That's just unrealistic though. Prices DO change, both street and MSRP, so a review is only ever going to specify value according to the price the reviewer lists. People can do the math for themselves if the price changes, its not hard...

 

MSRP rarely changes (if ever).  Street price is the one that drops.  After a good couple years after the company decides to start clearing inventory, they may decide to drop their selling price.  At that point, the item is normally out of date (like the TF10). MSRP is a lot more static than street price ever will be.  MSRP doesn't change that often (if ever), street price can change from a week to week basis. 

post #214 of 3623
True. I guess it would make sense for any thoriugh review to include both the MSRP and street price.
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MSRP rarely changes (if ever).  Street price is the one that drops.  After a good couple years after the company decides to start clearing inventory, they may decide to drop their selling price.  At that point, the item is normally out of date (like the TF10). MSRP is a lot more static than street price ever will be.  MSRP doesn't change that often (if ever), street price can change from a week to week basis. 
post #215 of 3623
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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post

True. I guess it would make sense for any thoriugh review to include both the MSRP and street price.

 

If it's a new product, there is no street price in my book (as it hasn't been created yet).  The sellers really create a "street", not the company themselves. Most reviewers get the new products (cause there normally is extra stock of them).  When they get them, a street price hasn't been created yet unfortunately.  You can't guess a street price either unfortunately :(

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Tiny, you seem to invent your own definitions quite a bit.  If there is an item for sale, it has a street price. ie. what the seller is charging for it. It may be the same as the MSRP for a period of time, even if it is temporary.  The UE 900 has a street price, whether it is in "your book" or not.  This is a pointless nitpicking that adds no value to this thread.

post #217 of 3623
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Originally Posted by RapidPulse View Post

Tiny, you seem to invent your own definitions quite a bit.  If there is an item for sale, it has a street price. ie. what the seller is charging for it. It may be the same as the MSRP for a period of time, even if it is temporary.  The UE 900 has a street price, whether it is in "your book" or not.  This is a pointless nitpicking that adds no value to this thread.
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Thank you!! I was getting sick of reading pointless arguing
post #218 of 3623
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Originally Posted by RapidPulse View Post

Tiny, you seem to invent your own definitions quite a bit.  If there is an item for sale, it has a street price. ie. what the seller is charging for it. It may be the same as the MSRP for a period of time, even if it is temporary.  The UE 900 has a street price, whether it is in "your book" or not.  This is a pointless nitpicking that adds no value to this thread.

 

I don't invent as you say.  I differentiate.  By the other definition we might as well not have MSRP as it is no different than street price than...  We might as well call everything street price.  But MSRP is its own entity, it's different than street price.  Sale price isn't a street price either.  Once again, its its own thing. There is something that differentiates them, albeit they are similar.  We shouldn't compare two different things is what I'm saying. 

 

UE900 doesn't have a street price yet.  That has yet to be established until its price drops from MSRP.  It has an MSRP, not a street price. If everything is a street price, then what's the use of having MSRP or sale price?  There is nothing differentiating street from MSRP, or street from Sale...  When in fact they are different things. 


Edited by tinyman392 - 9/1/12 at 9:29am
post #219 of 3623
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Originally Posted by RapidPulse View Post

Tiny, you seem to invent your own definitions quite a bit.  If there is an item for sale, it has a street price. ie. what the seller is charging for it. It may be the same as the MSRP for a period of time, even if it is temporary.  The UE 900 has a street price, whether it is in "your book" or not.  This is a pointless nitpicking that adds no value to this thread.

And is exactly what you just did and as I am doing now but then, I'm not complaining about it.rolleyes.gif

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My girlfriend tells me she'll buy me some.. :o

I love my girlfriend...

post #221 of 3623

This is all a lot of mental masturbation since hardly anybody has actually used them, and the "I'm right/you're wrong" narrative makes me click 'unsubscribe.'
 

post #222 of 3623
The non-IEM discussion going on is typical of intense interest in a product but no product being on hand. So threads go off on tangents like this until people can actually talk about the product first hand. Having said that, I think all the MSRP vs street price discussion has now been fully discussed so maybe something else can be talked about or we can all wait until next week when more people will have their IEM's on hand. How does that sound?
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How does $319 grab everyone?  I posted this in the deals thread:

 

 

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Register any Logitech product (*any* product- UPC or other part numbers not required) and get a 20% coupon code that can be used for the new UE 900 or any earphone or headphone for that matter.  That makes the new UE 900 $319 shipped.

 
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Originally Posted by Doctor Hax View Post

My girlfriend tells me she'll buy me some.. redface.gif
I love my girlfriend...
Dude you made me feel jealous !!
post #225 of 3623
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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post

How does $319 grab everyone?  I posted this in the deals thread:

 

 

 

If you're in the US, this is great...  If you're from Australia...  Well...  Yeah, order from the US, and pay the expensive shipping with the coupon :)

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