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post #1561 of 3803
The UE900 geberally performs on par with or better than other universal current generation top IEMs, but it's FR is a bit annoyingly off from neutral and bass doesn't go as deep cf EX1000 (yes that one again).

Fruther thoughts maybe later.
post #1562 of 3803

it's very neutral when modded. unmodded it's not that great...

 

mod=covering pinhole partially or completely depending on taste and adding impedance. 

post #1563 of 3803

Thanks. It will be the Ue-900 then for me.

post #1564 of 3803
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Originally Posted by Inks View Post

it's very neutral when modded. unmodded it's not that great...

 

mod=covering pinhole partially or completely depending on taste and adding impedance. 

 

Sorry, I'm late to this thread... my understanding going back a bit that the mod reduces/tightens up bass a bit?  Or are there other things?

 

Also it seems there was some argument about conflicting measurements and there being a dip in the midrange.  Was there any resolution here?  

post #1565 of 3803
I will let the graph guys argue out the peaks and valleys. As someone who just listens I am not noticing any dips in voices. I have heard that female voices can be veiled but I am unable to hear that myself and I do have quite a bit of female singing from female jazz singers, female Celtic singers, female rock singers, choral, and even some opera. I also have a fair amount of male singers in similar genres and none sound recessed to my ears.

I suspect you might really like this IEM bobeau, but do recommend buying it through an easy return source to be safe if possible.
Edited by dweaver - 2/21/13 at 9:46am
post #1566 of 3803
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Originally Posted by bobeau View Post

 

Sorry, I'm late to this thread... my understanding going back a bit that the mod reduces/tightens up bass a bit?  Or are there other things?

 

Also it seems there was some argument about conflicting measurements and there being a dip in the midrange.  Was there any resolution here?  

the mods makes the treble and bass more flat, simple as that. Stock, there is a dip in the mids, not when modded. The argument was settled as one graph was a semi pinhole blocked ue900 so it looked slighly better than stock. 

post #1567 of 3803
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Originally Posted by Inks View Post

W4 has more midbass, imo it makes it more flawed as it's a bit too much but this one is up for debate.

 

..and I'll take added mid-bass as an advantage over UE900.  It gives the bass more weight which is mandatory on a $400 quad-driver.

 

Too much mid-bass would be W3.

post #1568 of 3803

but it lacks subbass/extension which is even more important for weight imo. 

post #1569 of 3803
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Because W4R is more balanced and better looking (in his opinion).

 

Better balanced?? Hell no!

post #1570 of 3803
I've listened to both W4 and ue900 and I prefer the Ue900. W4 is more backward so the vocals (singers) seems to be a distance away. Ue900 vocals are forward so it feels like the singer is singing into your ears.
post #1571 of 3803

Again, that can be a preference thing.  For example the overly forwardness of midrange in the SE535 is a turn off to many.

 

If you could take the improved clarity of the UE900 and combine it with the added bass weight of the W4 it would truly be the best universal.

post #1572 of 3803

You should not compare the Shure mids with the UE. SE535 has fatiguing forward mids. The UE900 is not fatiguing at all, yet it plays straight forward with upfront vocals.

And the W4 is much too warm. It kills a lot of energy. The bloated midbass is a mess. I sold the W4 because of that.

 

I don't think UE900 needs more bass. PRaT is perfection with this one.

post #1573 of 3803
I don't know what the technical term is called. But the UE900 has the ability to transition better than any IEM I have owned. This is really noticeable in volume shifts, they make songs soar and seem effortless as they reach their crescendo.
post #1574 of 3803
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Originally Posted by Ultrazino View Post

 The bloated midbass is a mess. I sold the W4 because of that.

 

 

This is an erroneous statement and is of no help to anyone.  No different than me saying there is a big midbass suck-out with UE900 making it cold and too analytical.

 

It still comes down to tastes and preferences.  I don't think Westone spent 1000's of hours of engineering on W4 to purposely screw it up.  You don't think they know what they're doing?

 

Again, W3 midbass could surely be considered overdone by the majority but the midbass of W4 provides warmth making it soothing and engaging, purposely shying away from a colder more analytical sound of a W2 type sound sig.

 

The brief time I had UE900 I really liked it but didn't have enough time with it to say it trumps W4.

post #1575 of 3803

Hey, just wanted to say thanks for the feedback dweaver/Inks.

 

This is so tempting as I can go pick up a pair within minutes from the Apple store, but ATM I'm happy enough with my FXZ200/Meridian Explorer combo to wait it out a bit longer for the revised FitEar 334s.  I'm sure they're quite awesome, but I know I'm just going to be thinking about that next level up, esp. when I'm using IEMs some 40+ hours every week and cost really isn't much of a factor as they're a tool to help me work.

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