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post #1696 of 2920
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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post

I quite liked the C5, it has amazing bass and pretty darn nice mids and treble. I took mine back because of some pain issues and the fact I would never be able to get the MIC to work with my winphone. But the UE900 is a significant jump in all areas except bass, but I would have accepted nothing less considering the price difference.

I am happy with the UE900 but that is because I like it's treble and midrange presentation but others will appreciate the Westone signature more. Neither is "better" but they will be "better" for each individual. Get the one that's best for you...


I think that the C5 sounds too warm and laid back, but they are very forgiving.  I actually don't have an issue with the C5 ergonomics; they fit quite nicely for me, and are quite comfortable.  I really like the design and build quality (cable is still, though).  Even with Comply tips, however, they don't isolate very well (and have a semi-open back).  But once you've heard a really great IEM, there's no going back.  I'm more into detail and space, with great mids, and those are not areas where the C5 excels.

 

I'm really hoping that the UE900's open up somehow.  So far, I'm a little underwhelmed.  They sound very good (although lighter on the bass than I would prefer), but I was really expecting to be blown away.  The ergonomics could be better, especially the swiveling cable (which is really hard to understand as an issue until you have to deal with it...).  The nozzle is on the bigger side; they fit fine with the small size Comply tips, but those are pretty small with not a lot of material.  Clearly, getting them positioned right is important, and I'm working on that.

 

I've got two weeks to give them a try.  They are still much cheaper than even a single CIEM from Ultimate Ears (a single 18 Pro, which is a six-driver CIEM, would be twice the cost; the 11 Pro 4-BA model would still be several hundred more), and they do have the nicest remote cable of the high-end universal IEMs.

post #1697 of 2920

I never really was able to get the C5 to work out well for me.  The sound was a little too boomy and the mids a little too warm.  It took quite a bit away from the detail, power, and energy in the upper mids.  They were a good IEM, but there was definitely better around.  Never had a fit issue with them though, they actually fit quite comfortably.  Build was fantastic up until the cable :p

 

I just put some Sony Hybrid tips on my UE 900.  Seems to do quite a bit to them, lowers the mid-to-upper bass bump and has a larger focus on the upper midrange.  Treble comes out quite a bit more as well.  Don't know if anyone else will have similar results though.

post #1698 of 2920
The c5 needs allot of break in..allot...then the bass calms down and the detail opens up..I think they sound good..they are deffently a fun sounding iem and after break in sound really good...but rite out of the box they are really boomy
post #1699 of 2920
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Originally Posted by pacman46 View Post

The c5 needs allot of break in..allot...then the bass calms down and the detail opens up..I think they sound good..they are deffently a fun sounding iem and after break in sound really good...but rite out of the box they are really boomy

 

I burned in between 100 and 200 hours.  The bass did go down, but not enough, still a bit too boomy.

post #1700 of 2920
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Originally Posted by tinyman392 View Post

I just put some Sony Hybrid tips on my UE 900.  Seems to do quite a bit to them, lowers the mid-to-upper bass bump and has a larger focus on the upper midrange.  Treble comes out quite a bit more as well.  Don't know if anyone else will have similar results though.

 

I exerpienced the exact opposite. The mids got kinda veiled like the westone 4.

post #1701 of 2920
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Originally Posted by JohannLiebert View Post

 

I exerpienced the exact opposite. The mids got kinda veiled like the westone 4.

 

Different ears, different seal I guess :p  

post #1702 of 2920

Actually it's physics. The closed opening should dampen anything from the mids on up. "Focus on the upper midrange.  Treble comes out quite a bit more as well" is very difficult to explain and I also have Sony Hybrids here.

post #1703 of 2920
Hmmm, interesting. The hybrid can be used in two ways. If you push it to the notch on the nozzle it works exactly like Ultrazino says in that the narrow opening dampens the upper mids and treble. But if you push it past that notch it ends up flush with the nozzle and does nothing to impede the sound. At this setting it may provide more seal if you get a better seal from the hybrid material plus it may give an even more clear sound as the nozzle opening will be deeper in the ear. The danger might be wax though especially if you have wet wax as it will easily come in contact with the nozzle opening.
post #1704 of 2920

After giving the UE900s another try this evening (after burning them in a bit, on and off, for a day), I'm going to return them.  The combination of fit (the large nozzles don't work well with my ears, making positioning difficult with anything other than the smallest silicon tips), ergonomics (the swivel cable was annoying) and very good but not mind-blowing sound just didn't justify my keeping these for what they cost.  Actually, after spending more time with my C5, I realize that it actually is good enough (to more than good enough) to make the decision easy at this time.  I have no problem with the fit and comfort of the C5, and it's just much easier for me to put on.  Who knows - if the UE900's come down significantly in price, I might reconsider and get a pair later, but for what they go for now (close to MSRP), not worth it for me, although they obviously are great for many users.

 

I still don't quite understand the pinhole design, because it is so vulnerable to getting clogged.  I own an earpiece dryer for my hearing aids, so with work I would hopefully have been able to keep them open, but the added hassle was another reason to wait and see.  Maybe Logitech will come out with a revised version.

post #1705 of 2920
The C5 is definitely a nice IEM and it sounds like you prefer it's signature so I'm glad you found the right choice for you. I, like you have returned or sold several $3-400 IEM's because while,they were nice I just was never blown away by their signature. The diminishing return just wasn't worth it under those conditions.

The UE900 signature suits me better than anything I have tried.

BTW if you have any Sony hybrid tips, give them a try pushing them on to just the first notch (not over it) and see what you think. The fit should be better due to their softer rubber and the nozzle may change the sound to something more to your liking. You still may return the IEM but at least you might have an idea of what a different tip will make in case you can get them at a better sale price down the road.
post #1706 of 2920
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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post

The C5 is definitely a nice IEM and it sounds like you prefer it's signature so I'm glad you found the right choice for you. I, like you have returned or sold several $3-400 IEM's because while,they were nice I just was never blown away by their signature. The diminishing return just wasn't worth it under those conditions.

The UE900 signature suits me better than anything I have tried.

BTW if you have any Sony hybrid tips, give them a try pushing them on to just the first notch (not over it) and see what you think. The fit should be better due to their softer rubber and the nozzle may change the sound to something more to your liking. You still may return the IEM but at least you might have an idea of what a different tip will make in case you can get them at a better sale price down the road.

 

I don't have the Sony hybrid tips, but they are cheap enough that I may just order them for kicks and see. The biggest issue I have with these IEMs is that it was just too hard to get a consistent, good placement, and that really affects sound (something that I've noticed with a few other universal IEMs that have larger nozzles). I spent some time listening to my PSB M4U 2's last night after trying the UE900s, and the sound was so much better to me. At one point I toyed with the thought of getting a desktop or portable rig, but PSB's obviate the need for that as someone who uses an iPhone 4S exclusively as a source. I called Westone, and they will release (or re-release) a mic/remote cable that works with the iPhone, and if they do that, my portable needs will be answered. They had a mics cable last year that they did not recommend for use with the iPhone, and I guess they rethought the viability of that product and pulled it. Hopefully, the new cable with be iPhone compatible, have a full 3-button remote, and will be case-compatible. We'll see. Or I may try one of the Hong Kong aftermarket cables you can get off eBay. Thanks for all the thoughts, suggestions and reactions. Very helpful.
post #1707 of 2920

Has anyone here actually owned UE TF10's before getting your UE 900's and  if so did you keep or sell off your TF10's and why?

post #1708 of 2920

I had the tf10. Had fit issues, but never tried bi or triflanges...

post #1709 of 2920
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Originally Posted by Sacman View Post

Has anyone here actually owned UE TF10's before getting your UE 900's and  if so did you keep or sell off your TF10's and why?
yes, I sold the TF10 over fit and signature issues (mids were to recessed for me).
post #1710 of 2920
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Originally Posted by Sacman View Post

Has anyone here actually owned UE TF10's before getting your UE 900's and  if so did you keep or sell off your TF10's and why?

 

I sold my TF10 because they sound disharmonic to my ears. I think the correct term would be bad phase shifting. Also, they sound very artificial in a fun kind of way.

UE900 has nothing to do with TF10.

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