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post #16 of 136
If you are on the stationary bike or elliptical, or any exercise that doesn't involve alot of erratic movement you might be ok. These aren't a very good iem for active use. The cable is also not the best for active use. It is well made but big, heavy. I hope it works out for you!
post #17 of 136
The main use will be running that's all they will actually be used for. I have some beyerdynamics custom one pro for sitting down and listening these would only be used on an active basis lol doh!!!
post #18 of 136
Any more recent opinions on the C300 versus; IE80 (not owned), Hippo VB (own) and Sony XB90EX (own)?
post #19 of 136

I've noticed, the base drops off considerably with the solid silicon and foam tips, making these phones really easy on the ears, when you don't want that mind bending beat. When I use the standard silicon tips, the base is huge, in fact I would say, when you want base there is nothing like these, but you can manage totally tame the base with the solid silicon and foam.

 

For running I use Koss Porta pros, light, bassy and cheap, I also use to use the Seinheisser 880ocx, but I much prefer the Koss.

post #20 of 136

I'm actually looking for an alternative to these. I love the sound, it's brilliant for pop, but the formfactor annoys me. I don't need the iphone controls and I don't like wearing these out because of their size.

Does anyone know of any phones with the same sound signature but in a smaller size?

post #21 of 136

Here is the frequency response (FR) graph for the AH-C300:

 

01.FRM_DENON_AH-C300.png

 

From this graph it looks like the mids are going to be bassy or even muddy.  Treble concentrates in the harsh (piercing) treble range which is 3-5 kHz.  That would make treble sound far from sweet or high class.  Treble should sound harsh and cheap according to this sound profile.

 

I would like to read from those who have the AH-C300 how much these sound like I have just described.  Some people swear by FR graphs.  It is obvious that they convey valuable information.  But, I am open minded to find out if two pairs of IEMs with very similar FR graphs could sound quite different from each other because of other significant variables that are not measured when FR tests are run.

post #22 of 136

The mids are surprisingly clear, the highs are not harsh at all, the base is immense but it doesn't seem to really leak into the mids. I think Denon have done a mighty job here. There is no headache inducing mid base hump here (not a fan of sharp base at all), the base is as smooth as butter, exactly like the rumble of a sub woofer.

 

The profile you've described would describe Beats perfectly, such is not the case here. I've also noticed that the solid silicon tips also remove the sub woofer feel, where as the standard tips bring out massive amounts of base. 

 

I haven't found a better sound for pop. But if pop isn't you thing, I wouldn't recommend.

post #23 of 136
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Originally Posted by ShooterMacG View Post

The mids are surprisingly clear, the highs are not harsh at all, the base is immense but it doesn't seem to really leak into the mids. I think Denon have done a mighty job here. There is no headache inducing mid base hump here (not a fan of sharp base at all), the base is as smooth as butter, exactly like the rumble of a sub woofer.

The profile you've described would describe Beats perfectly, such is not the case here. I've also noticed that the solid silicon tips also remove the sub woofer feel, where as the standard tips bring out massive amounts of base. 

I haven't found a better sound for pop. But if pop isn't you thing, I wouldn't recommend.
Thank you, Shooter.

Your impressions are as good as other online impressions that I have read, except Eugguy's from a few posts back. Here they are:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/624637/denon-ah-c300-urban-raver-impressions#post_9460232

I would like to know what you think about his sharp treble experience with the AH-C300.

mochill has tried several IEMs with a lot of sub bass and bass punch. He recommends the GR07 BE as the best of all that he has tried. Those do not have as much bass quantity as others do, but the bass quality more than makes up for it.. You can also ask in the GR07 BE thread if anyone has tried those and the AH-C300 to see how they compare. Ryan, from stozz.com has had both.
Edited by Alberto01 - 10/9/13 at 3:49pm
post #24 of 136
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Originally Posted by Alberto01 View Post


Thank you, Shooter.

Your impressions are as good as other online impressions that I have read, except Eugguy's from a few posts back. Here they are:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/624637/denon-ah-c300-urban-raver-impressions#post_9460232

I would like to know what you think about his sharp treble experience with the AH-C300.

mochill has tried several IEMs with a lot of sub bass and bass punch. He recommends the GR07 BE as the best of all that he has tried. Those do not have as much bass quantity as others do, but the bass quality more than makes up for it.. You can also ask in the GR07 BE thread if anyone has tried those and the AH-C300 to see how they compare. Ryan, from stozz.com has had both.

 

I must say I was surprised by the comment about the harshness of the treble. I personally hate this myself, I'd even say my HA-FXT90s are guilty of this, although I'll spend more time burning them in, I also have a pair of IE8s and I'd describe the Denons as being IE8s with a sub-woofer feel (detailed base, not muddy like say, my Koss Porta Pros) and no mid base hump.

I guess it would possibly depend on Eugguy's music selection, or possibly his tolerance for treble.

 

I feel a lot of IEMs I've listened to have a "sharp" bass, I guess you would call it tight. This to me is headache inducing, the Denons don't have this kind of spike, while they give you the sensation that they are actually moving air.

 

Thanks for the tip on the GR07 BEs, I'll certainly check out the thread.  

post #25 of 136

I meant to write "stozz-audio.jux.com" instead of "stozz.com" in my previous post.

post #26 of 136

Thank you for your reply, Shooter.  It is quite helpful.

 

Someone asked a question here about the AH-C300 not very long ago:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/682687/do-you-experience-bloated-bass-with-the-denon-c300#post_9825675

 

You are perfectly qualified to answer it.

post #27 of 136

I just bought the Denon AH-C300's and burned them in for about 48 hours: first impressions:

 

1. They do get better with burn-in time

2. Have a more full soundstage than other 'bass head' IEMs. I have the Sony XB90, EX85LP, Klipsch S4, Monster Turbine, among others and I have to say that these have a bit less low end bass response than the Sony's (16mm woofers and you can tell), but with most of these you sacrifice overall sound experience... Here is a good visual: The Denon AH-C300's sound like you are sitting in the middle of a room with 5.1 surround sound, and hear all the subtle sounds coming from every speaker, including a kickin' sub, whereas other 'bass head' IEMs are like sticking your ear next to the subwoofer of that same room.  It's more bass, but more unbalanced as well.  

 

I don't know if these headphones are recommended to use with an amp, but I have ordered the FiiO 12 Mont Blanc, which I will be learning to use on these headphones, as well as my Sony MDR-XB700's. Stay tuned :)

post #28 of 136
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Originally Posted by markjohnsonii View Post
 

I just bought the Denon AH-C300's and burned them in for about 48 hours: first impressions:

 

1. They do get better with burn-in time

2. Have a more full soundstage than other 'bass head' IEMs. I have the Sony XB90, EX85LP, Klipsch S4, Monster Turbine, among others and I have to say that these have a bit less low end bass response than the Sony's (16mm woofers and you can tell), but with most of these you sacrifice overall sound experience... Here is a good visual: The Denon AH-C300's sound like you are sitting in the middle of a room with 5.1 surround sound, and hear all the subtle sounds coming from every speaker, including a kickin' sub, whereas other 'bass head' IEMs are like sticking your ear next to the subwoofer of that same room.  It's more bass, but more unbalanced as well.  

 

I don't know if these headphones are recommended to use with an amp, but I have ordered the FiiO 12 Mont Blanc, which I will be learning to use on these headphones, as well as my Sony MDR-XB700's. Stay tuned :)

 

Equalizers and amps without the use of boost or effect features, are the best and cleanest way to improve sound quality.  As long as the amp that you get puts out a signal as clean as or better than your source, without much coloration of the sound, then it will add value to the sound experience.

 

Please, keep your impressions (whether good or bad) coming about the AH-C300, as they settle on you.


Edited by Alberto01 - 10/14/13 at 11:02am
post #29 of 136
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Originally Posted by markjohnsonii View Post
 

The Denon AH-C300's sound like you are sitting in the middle of a room with 5.1 surround sound, and hear all the subtle sounds coming from every speaker, including a kickin' sub, whereas other 'bass head' IEMs are like sticking your ear next to the subwoofer of that same room.  It's more bass, but more unbalanced as well.  

 

 

I think that pretty much nails my impression! Perfect description.
post #30 of 136

The only bad comment that I have read on the sound quality of the AH-C300 is here in this thread.  It is from Eugguy saying that these have sharp treble.  From all other comments online, and I have searched quite deeply, it seems like these have an awesome sound even for audiophiles.  It seems like everything on their sound profile ranges between very good and excellent.  That makes me wonder why don't we see more reviews and comments as compared to other IEMs for which there are more negative reviews.  In other words, if these are so awesome, why aren't more people buying them even taking the risk of not getting a good fit and having to sell them later or just putting them away?  An awesome sound is worth the risk.  Something doesn't fit in this picture.  There aren't enough people raving about how good these sound, but everyone that tries them seems to find them awesome in SQ.  That doesn't fit.


Edited by Alberto01 - 10/14/13 at 1:59pm
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