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post #376 of 1463
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i actually max the volume out on both amps to test the difference, not on any other volume pot position. Doing so, the e9 is simply louder even on low gain than the 11.32 on high gain. I just need a confirmation from anyone else who has an e9 that this is also the case with them, so that my mind it at ease although it is loud enough for me well below the max volume for 11.32. For a layman/noob like me, louder volume= more power so that is why i am a little confused over here as 11.32 should be twice as loud.

For the 100DB or higher sensivity headphone the NFB11.32 can't turn to max volume, this is cause the headphone too loud and can't hear by ears.

If turn to max volume still not very loud, please check the volume control in the computer if have turn to max, include the driver panel, Windows audio panel, media player volume .

post #377 of 1463
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Originally Posted by Solitary1 View Post

All can say is "natural". Maybe the best under-$500 DAC/Headphone amp that I've heard. This a steal for $340. Take a while to break-in, after that pure bliss. More than neutral, like said, "natural".

 

 

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All this driver talk is fascinating but how about some pics of the 11.32...What do you plug her into?  Do you use her as a pre-amp?  A tube amp perhaps, plugged into her for the cold nights for a little warmth...lol (75-80 degrees year round down here), but I love the tubes.........I recently organized my office listening table and gave the 11.32 a little tube love....Incredible sound...

 

A wonderful sounding device indeed...

 

Pic I posted in another thread while I was getting the table ready...(W8 laptop--> 11.32--> MPX3 SLAM (2x Sylvania 6SN7GTB & 1x Westinghouse 6GU7)

 

Cheers!!!

 

 

 

 

post #378 of 1463
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Originally Posted by Kingwa View Post

For the 100DB or higher sensivity headphone the NFB11.32 can't turn to max volume, this is cause the headphone too loud and can't hear by ears.

If turn to max volume still not very loud, please check the volume control in the computer if have turn to max, include the driver panel, Windows audio panel, media player volume .


everything is at full... actually i have noticed that media players like foobar sound lower and some others like potplayer or vlc sound twice as loud... anyhow i am now satisfied with the volume level....

post #379 of 1463
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Originally Posted by h4mm3r 0f th0r View Post


i actually max the volume out on both amps to test the difference, not on any other volume pot position. Doing so, the e9 is simply louder even on low gain than the 11.32 on high gain. I just need a confirmation from anyone else who has an e9 that this is also the case with them, so that my mind it at ease although it is loud enough for me well below the max volume for 11.32. For a layman/noob like me, louder volume= more power so that is why i am a little confused over here as 11.32 should be twice as loud.

 

Try level matching with pink noise for the E9 and 11.32 before listening any of your favorite music. A cheap Radio Shack sound meter would do.

 

I did this to compare between the Compass 2 and the HA-INFO DA1. It's a objective way tell the difference.

 

Steve

post #380 of 1463
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Try level matching with pink noise for the E9 and 11.32 before listening any of your favorite music. A cheap Radio Shack sound meter would do.

 

I did this to compare between the Compass 2 and the HA-INFO DA1. It's a objective way tell the difference.

 

Steve


I don't need to now as with fiio e9 the sound distorts a lot with high vloumes and the treble is unbearble while with 11.32 the sound is crisp clear and simply beautiful. The he500 responds better to more power so that just shows me that it indeed is more powerful, while the e9 has some cheap gain method or something and the sound is pretty much horrible when i try and listen to higher volumes.

post #381 of 1463

Did anybody try 11.32 with Senn HD 600? 


Edited by kwatch - 1/29/13 at 2:41pm
post #382 of 1463
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Did anybody try 11.32 with Senn HD 600? 


i have tried it with the hd650

post #383 of 1463
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Originally Posted by h4mm3r 0f th0r View Post


i have tried it with the hd650

Works fine on 650, takes a while for burn-in.

post #384 of 1463
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Did anybody try 11.32 with Senn HD 600? 

 

Yep, I have this combination. The sound signatures of these two doesn't fit well, as NFB11.32 needs bright headphones to shine.

NFB11.32 tries to deliver crystal clear highs, while HD600/650 blocks it with that veil of darkness signature. I can often hear, that these two are struggling with each other. If HD600 would be bright headphones, than it would be almost perfect combination. I like HD600 much more with more warm DAC, like NFB12. If you only hear sound effects and instruments alone, than it is not bad, the quality is very high, but in music, those two sound signatures collide.

 

There is also more issues, like too much instrument separation, which leading to lack musicality (NFB12 had very nice musicality aspect with HD600), you just hear instrumets all around with very good quality and level of detail, but they are not connected into music... it's separated, while music is about connection. Also, as I've said earlier, highs are partialy killed by HD600... but they are stil sometimes disturbing...it is leading into disconnection of music, because they gain too much attraction, over rest of sounds. For example, bright headphones SR850, have much nicer sound signature with NFB11.32, because those signatures supports each other... but of course, quality of details is lower, because SR850 are worse headphones than HD600, but enjoyment of music is better (it will pump more passion, emotions and joy into you). It's not only about brightness, SR850 have also more forward sound etc...

 

I would like to hear this DAC with SRH1440... that is good candidate, but I would need to hear it, to confirm it 100%.

If I would buy some DAC to HD600, I would go rather for NFB15.1.


Edited by Warrax - 1/31/13 at 5:16pm
post #385 of 1463
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Yep, I have this combination. The sound signatures of these two doesn't fit well, as NFB11.32 needs bright headphones to shine.

NFB11.32 tries to deliver crystal clear highs, while HD600/650 blocks it with that veil of darkness signature. I can often hear, that these two are struggling with each other. If HD600 would be bright headphones, than it would be almost perfect combination. I like HD600 much more with more warm DAC, like NFB12. If you only hear sound effects and instruments alone, than it is not bad, the quality is very high, but in music, those two sound signatures collide.

 

There is also more issues, like too much instrument separation, which leading to lack musicality (NFB12 had very nice musicality aspect with HD600), you just hear instrumets all around with very good quality and level of detail, but they are not connected into music... it's separated, while music is about connection. Also, as I've said earlier, highs are partialy killed by HD600... but they are stil sometimes disturbing...it is leading into disconnection of music, because they gain too much attraction, over rest of sounds. For example, bright headphones SR850, have much nicer sound signature with NFB11.32, because those signatures supports each other... but of course, quality of details is lower, because SR850 are worse headphones than HD600, but enjoyment of music is better (it will pump more passion, emotions and joy into you). It's not only about brightness, SR850 have also more forward sound etc...

 

I would like to hear this DAC with SRH1440... that is good candidate, but I would need to hear it, to confirm it 100%.

If I would buy some DAC to HD600, I would go rather for NFB15.1.

 

I have the opposite impression actually... the 11.32 may not shine with it but that does not mean that the hd650(in my case) do not shine with this amp/dac. Both the hd600 and hd650 are laid back(hd650 being more rolled off in the highs) and would benefit from a brighter amplifier which brings out the highs just a little bit more. People tend to pair the senns with brighter amps/dacs to get rid of the laid back signature. the other headphones you are mentioning are very bright and ofcourse will let the 11.32 shine more easily. But i don't think that means the hd650 and hd600 cannot benefit from the brighter nature of a source as they might bring more detail out of the headphones than these cans are used to normally.

post #386 of 1463
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I have the opposite impression actually... the 11.32 may not shine with it but that does not mean that the hd650(in my case) do not shine with this amp/dac. Both the hd600 and hd650 are laid back(hd650 being more rolled off in the highs) and would benefit from a brighter amplifier which brings out the highs just a little bit more. People tend to pair the senns with brighter amps/dacs to get rid of the laid back signature. the other headphones you are mentioning are very bright and ofcourse will let the 11.32 shine more easily. But i don't think that means the hd650 and hd600 cannot benefit from the brighter nature of a source as they might bring more detail out of the headphones than these cans are used to normally.

My thoughts exactly, I never hear the veil, and my other headphones is the AKG K701. The 11.32 plays both fine, it a while for HD650 to work it magic. But, they do. Then again, I NEVER heard the veil on any amp I own (or use own). Including X-Can v3 or v8, Little Dot, Perreaux, CKIII, Antique Lab MG Head III, Creek, cmoy, MINT, mini3, on and on... 

post #387 of 1463

Does anyone know how it pairs with the HE-400's?


Edited by Okamoto - 2/2/13 at 12:53pm
post #388 of 1463

would someone mind testing the USB input with a Samsung Galaxy S III and a USB OTG cable

post #389 of 1463

Just purchased one of these moments ago and I am thoroughly scanning through this thread for any info I may have missed :) It's my first venture into either an amp or dac and after countless weeks of consideration and research, I just felt this was the right one for me at a price I was willing to spend. Atm I am rocking Pro 900s and DT 880 Pros, so I can wait to try them out, but I have to admit I'm a little scared :P  I will most certain post what I find as soon as the 11.32 arrives :) I have a lot of FLAC files and am playing them through MusicBee. Is this sufficient or should I switch to something like Foobar?

post #390 of 1463
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Congratz Ninja. Both your headphones will sound great with the 11.32. Nothing to be worried/scared about. All the driver talk is fun, fascinating and a great read.

In reference to players you'll be fine with MB. Foobar is great as well with configs and tweaks. I use Foobar, MB, uLilith, MediaMonkey and iTunes on occasion.

Cheers!


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