Originally Posted by Old Pa
I don't think that refusing to defend further against 13 year old charges (where there is, what, an 8 year statute of limitations?) is an admission of guilt. I did not read anything in Armstrong's statement that I though was any kind of an admission of guilt. It is my understanding that some of the "allegations" against him were made by people who were already up on charges with real evidence and admissions and they were offered deals. I don't know anything that would allow me to form a legitimate opinion as to his guilt, certainly not in light of a presumption of innocence which is only fair.
Tell me, though, in your opinion: if some practice, like being transfused with your own blood, was not banned by the rules at one time and somebody did it, and then it was banned by the rules at a later time, and the same person did not do it again, would you consider them guilty of a violation?
Just because allegations came from people already up on charges shouldn't automatically dismiss their claims.
He failed 2 tests, you could argue (and they do) that the tests were questionable.
(This to me always seems to be the case of any failed tests).
Sure, so far there probably isn't anything legitimate (whatever that even means) to sway your opinion as to his guilt. Of course, it's being somewhat presumptuous.
You say they did it the first time under no ban, but then they didn't do it again under ban. Do you mean they did do it again...
Then yes, they are guilty of the violation. I personally think they should let this doping thing go, it is a part of that era in sports.
Just look at baseball man.....that is a mess. Who gets a 50 game suspension, who claims of faulty testing,. Does this doper or
known but never caught doper , or suspicioned doper, or even prosecuted doper deserve HOF status, do we put asterisk or not in the history books.....
I think you wipe the slate clean. Put in your rules and give lifetime bans on the first offence. But I'm a rash thinker.
Edited by paradoxper - 8/26/12 at 1:33pm