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I don't think a direct comparison between these two has been made before. What's the characteristics of each sound signature (bass, treble, mids, etc.). Which one do you prefer?

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I don't think a direct comparison between these two has been made before. What's the characteristics of each sound signature (bass, treble, mids, etc.). Which one do you prefer?

 

Heya,

 

I found the HD600 to be more comfortable over a long period, but only marginally. I liked the bass and mids of the HE400 better. Planar mids, and very tight, fast, low hitting bass. Otherwise, they're actually quite similar in other regards. I have more of a preference to the HE400. Something about planar mids...

 

Very best,

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Heya,

 

I found the HD600 to be more comfortable over a long period, but only marginally. I liked the bass and mids of the HE400 better. Planar mids, and very tight, fast, low hitting bass. Otherwise, they're actually quite similar in other regards. I have more of a preference to the HE400. Something about planar mids...

 

Very best,

are the mids more forward on the he400? Also, how is the treble on both cans?

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are the mids more forward on the he400? Also, how is the treble on both cans?

 

Heya,

 

The mids are not forward on either headphone, but rather, balanced. Both are neutral headphones. Nothing is exceptionally forward on either. But planar magnetic mids just tend to have something about them that I like better than a dynamic. Neither have recessed mids at all. But they don't have overly forward mids either. Rather, an excellent balance of all frequencies together. The treble is similar, it's not dim, but it's not sibilant and overly bright either. Good, crisp, clean, exciting high frequencies.

 

Very best,

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Heya,

 

The mids are not forward on either headphone, but rather, balanced. Both are neutral headphones. Nothing is exceptionally forward on either. But planar magnetic mids just tend to have something about them that I like better than a dynamic. Neither have recessed mids at all. But they don't have overly forward mids either. Rather, an excellent balance of all frequencies together. The treble is similar, it's not dim, but it's not sibilant and overly bright either. Good, crisp, clean, exciting high frequencies.

 

Very best,

its a tough choice :)

Did you use the he-400 with the standard leather pads or velour pads? They say velour pads make it much better...


Edited by SmettMark - 8/23/12 at 3:54pm
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its a tough choice :)

Did you use the he-400 with the standard leather pads or velour pads? They say velour pads make it much better...

 

Heya,


I have both. In general, I prefer velour pads on all my Hifimans (300/400/500). But that is preference. One person likes something, another does not.

 

Very best,

post #7 of 41

I own the HE-400 and have listened to the HD600 a good number of times with my favorite recordings.  This is what I feel about them:

 

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I own the HE-400 and have listened to the HD600 a good number of times with my favorite recordings.  This is what I feel about them:

 

sorry, but I don't really understand graphs... could you explain it to me?

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thanks, I kinda understand it now :)

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I own the HE-400 and have listened to the HD600 a good number of times with my favorite recordings.  This is what I feel about them:


That's a good representation on the HE400s. Like REALLY.
post #12 of 41

I'm about to pull the trigger on the HE-400 as a change from my HD580, but I have one last question. How is the timbre on the HE-400? I haven't read anything about this and it is very important. I feel the 580 has very good timbre and would be disappointed of the 400 didn't as well. Thanks

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That's a good representation on the HE400s. Like REALLY.

recessed upper mids?

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Not recessed in the traditional head-fi usage, which means 'drowned out by other parts of the frequency response'.  The upper mids of the HE-400 are in full detail and presence, but are just laid-back compared to the rest of the signature.  To me, the HD600 is the exact opposite.

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Not recessed in the traditional head-fi usage, which means 'drowned out by other parts of the frequency response'.  The upper mids of the HE-400 are in full detail and presence, but are just laid-back compared to the rest of the signature.  To me, the HD600 is the exact opposite.

well, forward upper mids are what I most want in a headphone, I think the hd600 is for me. Is there another headphone which is like the hd600 but with more forward mids but similar highs in the same price range?

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