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post #256 of 301

spkrs01, you and what Metrum claim is correct.....this thing gets better and better as you listen to it.  I'm listening to my HD800 now and it's a totally different presentation again.  The stage has opened up even further than before and totally woke me up by surprise.  The highs have lost that initial edginess by far now and the everything seems to be in almost perfect sympohony listening to all types of music....and.....I can't believe I'm enjoying my HD800 now without fatigue.  Don't really remember the HD800 performing so well on the lows also with such a precise powerful punch.....I thought it was because of the tubes I was rolling with the Liquid Glass but I swapped back the previous set (RCA coinbase) to make sure and double check.....sure there is a different signature to the Ken Rads I'm running now but the DAC has definitely changed in character. I'm excited that this is supposed to get only better.  This gamble seems to be paying off heh.

post #257 of 301

Oh great....I am pleased that you concur.

 

For me the HEX really punches well above it's price.

 

I failed to mention in an earlier post that I have been listening to all my music up-sampled to 24/192 on the JRiver MC19. Besides eliminating the clicks on bit rate changes between files, I am finding the sonics even more natural sounding, with a little more dynamic contrast and better portrayal of depth and airiness in the soundstage. Very nice indeed!

 

Admittedly, my primary listening is still with IEMs, at the moment, but things will change tomorrow when the Cavalli LAu arrives according to FedEx tracking. I will start listening to my full size headphones, and I have also added a pair of LCD 3 over the weekend that should arrive later this week.......

 

 

post #258 of 301

I think you're in for a major treat.....as good as IEMs have been headphones are apples and oranges still.  For me the LCD-3 was my go to headphones....but man......it's like the HD800 has been unlocked, I switched tubes now to the Tung Sols 6SN7GTs and......damn it's good.  The LAu should be pretty amazing from what I've heard on the Liquid Fire and Liquid Glass.  Look forward to your impressions and offtopic, I might me msgin you soon regarding the 1plus2, talking to a distributor first (Dimitri).  Thanks.

post #259 of 301
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Originally Posted by spkrs01 View Post
 

Oh great....I am pleased that you concur.

 

For me the HEX really punches well above it's price.

 

I failed to mention in an earlier post that I have been listening to all my music up-sampled to 24/192 on the JRiver MC19. Besides eliminating the clicks on bit rate changes between files, I am finding the sonics even more natural sounding, with a little more dynamic contrast and better portrayal of depth and airiness in the soundstage. Very nice indeed!

 

Admittedly, my primary listening is still with IEMs, at the moment, but things will change tomorrow when the Cavalli LAu arrives according to FedEx tracking. I will start listening to my full size headphones, and I have also added a pair of LCD 3 over the weekend that should arrive later this week.......

 

 

 

Clicks with the V200?

post #260 of 301
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Originally Posted by sensui123 View Post
 

I think you're in for a major treat.....as good as IEMs have been headphones are apples and oranges still.  For me the LCD-3 was my go to headphones....but man......it's like the HD800 has been unlocked, I switched tubes now to the Tung Sols 6SN7GTs and......damn it's good.  The LAu should be pretty amazing from what I've heard on the Liquid Fire and Liquid Glass.  Look forward to your impressions and offtopic, I might me msgin you soon regarding the 1plus2, talking to a distributor first (Dimitri).  Thanks.

 

I am hoping that, as at the moment my IEM is sounding better than my headphones from the V200 and TU-05. 

 

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Clicks with the V200?

 

Hey buddy,

 

There's usually a couple of clicks if you change songs on different bit rates, nothing major.........

post #261 of 301
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Originally Posted by spkrs01 View Post
 

I failed to mention in an earlier post that I have been listening to all my music up-sampled to 24/192 on the JRiver MC19. Besides eliminating the clicks on bit rate changes between files, I am finding the sonics even more natural sounding, with a little more dynamic contrast and better portrayal of depth and airiness in the soundstage. Very nice indeed! 

 

Given it is a NOS DAC, a high quality up-sampling algorithm should perform better than regular over-sampling would anyway. With the Octave there was a noticeable improvement in clarity with up-sampling using Audirvana so I can only imagine it would be similar with the Hex.

post #262 of 301
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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post
 

 

Given it is a NOS DAC, a high quality up-sampling algorithm should perform better than regular over-sampling would anyway. With the Octave there was a noticeable improvement in clarity with up-sampling using Audirvana so I can only imagine it would be similar with the Hex.

 

It is certainly a benefit of the Metrum dacs with software based oversampling, kind of like having your cake and eating it too. Using A+ oversampling, I get more presence, separation and clarity with a wider soundstage. Running in NOS, timing and timbre are excellent. I run each about 50/50 but it's one of the few dacs where the choice is yours to make. 

post #263 of 301
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I was actually highly recommended by an audiophile friend who is using it in his home rig. He is besotted by the HEX and feels it equals/betters many 15K+ Dacs that have been through his system and his current Dac. Allowing for his preferences that is quite an achievement and seemingly a bargain based on price/performance.  

 

Whether the above can be translated to headphone usage is to be heard. 

 

I do not know what your friend have or heard at home but to be honest this type of info is funny because for example Meitner MA1 cost 6-7K$ new! Meitner and DCS are true pioneer in digital audio because they have their own specific DAC patented solutions that do not sell to anyone (Meitner plays everything natively, their top hardware upsample 5.6 MHz etc etc., on overall quality system differents have to be hear). Other manufacturers buy from BB, Wolfson, Analog Devices, AK, CS or ESS of D / A converter and give it together with the power supply and analog parts. I do not want say it can not be there too but we do not live in a fairytale. Hard to believe without listening. And everybody like something AMR DP777 probably a little tuned lively for tube lovers, basic model of dCs more analytical, Meitner something between, Forsell studio etc...


Edited by knopi - 10/4/13 at 6:13am
post #264 of 301
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I do not know what your friend have or heard at home but to be honest this type of info is funny because for example Meitner MA1 cost 6-7K$ new! Meitner and DCS are true pioneer in digital audio because they have their own specific DAC patented solutions that do not sell to anyone (Meitner plays everything natively, their top hardware upsample 5.6 MHz etc etc., on overall quality system differents have to be hear). Other manufacturers buy from BB, Wolfson, Analog Devices, AK, CS or ESS of D / A converter and give it together with the power supply and analog parts. I do not want say it can not be there too but we do not live in a fairytale. Hard to believe without listening. And everybody like something AMR DP777 probably a little tuned lively for tube lovers, basic model of dCs more analytical, Meitner something between, Forsell studio etc...

 

He has been through many Dacs and is someone's ears that I can identify with. We are in Hong Kong, after all, and every brand is readily available and in a city with probably the most die hard audiophiles in existence. 

 

It is all well and easy naming names, and some of those listed are good but as with all things in life, nothing is perfect. What the HEX exceeds in is bringing a naturalness, a vibrancy, a correctness to the music that is rarely available at it's price point...................and from that perspective performs well beyond it's price point. 

 

BUT everyone hear things differently and preferences comes into play most certainly! However to discount a product because of a low price relatively, is not the best way to go about things. 

post #265 of 301

I have bought the Lumin Network Music Player and will be using it to play DSD files, balanced out to the Cavalli LAu. The Lumin sounds glorious playing DSD files........

 

CREATOR: gd-jpeg v1.0 (using IJG JPEG v62), quality = 90

 

 

However, more importantly, I will be using Lumin as a transport via the SPDIF out to the HEX and taking out my PC as the media player. I am hopeful that I will achieve a better quality signal and realize the HEX's potential more. My reasoning for this is when ever I use the Fidelizer app on my PC, the sound quality improves significantly but then I encounter occasional clicks and pops when I start browsing. Will collect the Lumin next week when I return from Fujiya Avic Headphone Festival, and set it up.

 

I have had the HEX for about a month and I must say it is an absolute wonderful sounding DAC, plus the synergy with the Cavalli LAu and Abyss headphones is simply sensational. When music starts to play through this system everything else is forgotten, and you are just immersed by the performance.

 

Highly recommended!!!


Edited by spkrs01 - 10/21/13 at 8:48am
post #266 of 301
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Hey spkrs01 have you managed to listen to the Auralic Vega before? Just wondering if you had since you're in HK. If so, how do you think it compares with the Hex?

post #267 of 301

Spkrs01, let us know how the DAC in the Lumin compares to the Hex for regular (non-DSD) playback?


Edited by Duckman - 10/21/13 at 8:41pm
post #268 of 301

I keep buying new amps and still thinkin about the LAu.....but listening to the hex these last weeks have been an absolute blessing.  Jazz+Liquid Glass (paired with Ken Rad vt-231)+LCD-3 have never sounded so good with the Hex.  I probably won't be rolling sources, very very happy with how this purchase turned out.

post #269 of 301
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Originally Posted by aive View Post
 

 

Hey spkrs01 have you managed to listen to the Auralic Vega before? Just wondering if you had since you're in HK. If so, how do you think it compares with the Hex?

 

I have never heard the Vega before and probably will not now, as I feel I have settled my desktop rig for the mean time for dynamic and ortho headphones...........

 

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Spkrs01, let us know how the DAC in the Lumin compares to the Hex for regular (non-DSD) playback?

 

I already have the Lumin in house and all set up. I did not have time to set up a NAS, so until I return from Tokyo, I am using my PC and JRiver MC 19 as the server. I was forced to buy an iPad, I chose a mini as I will only be using it as a remote control. The Lumin app looks great and functions very well.

 

 

 

Everything is extremely slick, and took me all of 15-20 minutes to have the Lumin playing.  

 

 

 

Using the Lumin as source to the HEX is so so much better than PC via usb. I am sourcing the HEX via SPDIF. In a nutshell, the improvement is evident immediately. I will post more impressions as I get to burn in the Lumin more. As of right now, the HEX is smoother sounding and music seems to flow more effortlessly when sourced by the Lumin.

 

Really enjoying the set up immensely............................


Edited by spkrs01 - 10/22/13 at 9:28am
post #270 of 301

Interesting feedback, I've been very pleased with the USB from my PC and was thinking of picking up a USB->SPDIF like Audiophileo soon to test with the Hex.

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