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Audeze vs. Hifiman Orthos with respect to lisening taste

Poll Results: You mainly an acoustic guy or electronic guy? Acoustic means the players are moving fingers or singing in real time, with no use of AutoTune. Electronics is pure elec. instruments, lots of post-process (Auto Tune)

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 23% (28)
    Acoustic is my bread and butter. Prefer the Audeze orthos.
  • 39% (47)
    Acoustic is my bread and butter. Prefer the Hifiman orthos.
  • 24% (29)
    Electronic is the most exciting: Prefer the Audeze orthos
  • 26% (32)
    Electronic is the most most exciting. Prefer the Hifiman orthos.
120 Total Votes  
post #1 of 47
Thread Starter 

Here is an admittedly crude poll, a start. But it might get some thinking going, and might lead to more interesting future polls.

 

MULTIPLE ANSWERS ARE PERMITTED, it's easy to imagine someone fitting in multiple categories... so you can say something like "I'm acostic with the Audeze and electronic with the Hifiman"

post #2 of 47

I voted Electric Audeze. I'd like to hear the HE-6 again some time but from the personal time I spent with the HE-500, and the small amount of time I spent with the HE-6 I still preferred my LCD 2.2 (wasn't a huge fan of the Rev 1).

 

The Hifiman cans definitely get a nod for better comfort and stock cables though...and looks. The massively angled pads of the LCD series always bugged me a bit.

post #3 of 47

it is as simple as that, the Audeze is Darker with lusher sound and vice versa which gives hifiman more air and sound stage, and that means thick thumping bass vs smooth articulated treble, choose your cop of tea. also i remember reading a couple of posts that said the Audezes is a tad more resolving than the hifimans except for the HE-6.

 

i don't have either one of these and correct me if i'm wrong but this is what i learned from this forum.


Edited by MEDO - 8/21/12 at 11:12pm
post #4 of 47

I have only tried the HE-400 and the LCD-2 is in every way better than the HE-400.

post #5 of 47

Please avoid posting about gear you haven't heard. You do get more air and better soundstage but being orthos they both suffer from fairly poor staging, IMO. 

 

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Originally Posted by MEDO View Post

it is as simple as that, the Audeze is Darker with lusher sound and vice versa which gives hifiman more air and sound stage, and that means thick thumping bass vs smooth articulated treble, choose your cop of tea. also i remember reading a couple of posts that said the Audezes is a tad more resolving than the hifimans except for the HE-6.

 

i don't have either one of these and correct me if i'm wrong but this is what i learned from this forum.

I'd hope so considering the LCD 2 is more than double the price of the HE400. :D

 

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Originally Posted by TickleMeElmo View Post

I have only tried the HE-400 and the LCD-2 is in every way better than the HE-400.

post #6 of 47
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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

Please avoid posting about gear you haven't heard. You do get more air and better soundstage but being orthos they both suffer from fairly poor staging, IMO. 



Not so with a "properly" driven he6. One of best I ever listened to when it comes to sound staging and especially imaging. Not so when driven with less than 6 to 8 watts.


And to further add, I consider the lcd3 and he6 1a and 1b. I love them both, slightly preferring the he6. But they are the two best I've ever listened to and that included .... Hd800, r10, t1, l3000.
Edited by moodyrn - 8/22/12 at 1:33pm
post #7 of 47
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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

I'd hope so considering the LCD 2 is more than double the price of the HE400. biggrin.gif


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post #8 of 47

Polls are so useless with regards to headphones in my opinion. Personal taste plays such a huge factor in it. For example, I much prefer the LCD2s compared to the HE-6 whereas my friend is the complete opposite.

post #9 of 47
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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

Please avoid posting about gear you haven't heard. You do get more air and better soundstage but being orthos they both suffer from fairly poor staging, IMO. 

 

I'd hope so considering the LCD 2 is more than double the price of the HE400. :D

 

 

Hey, you've probably seen me posting in the Hifiman threads lately.  I've the HE-6 and HE-500s on demo right now, but have not heard the LCD-2s in a while.  My dad actually has ordered a pair of the LCD-2s that should be showing up next week while I still have the HE's on demo, so we will be doing a comparison of the HE-500, HE-6, HD700, and LCD-2.  I do agree with your comment about staging.  I'm finding that to be a very strong weakness of the Hifimans (and possibly the LCD-2s also, if you say this trait is common to all orthos).  I'm not sure that is something I can live with.  I would have to have a good staging can like the HD700s, and a cheaper ortho like the HE-500s for what I'm in the mood.

post #10 of 47
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Originally Posted by Shubar View Post

Polls are so useless with regards to headphones in my opinion. Personal taste plays such a huge factor in it. For example, I much prefer the LCD2s compared to the HE-6 whereas my friend is the complete opposite.

But it's personal taste that this poll is about..??

 

Anyways... I'm gonna have to go with the Audeze. Been living with the HE500's and LCD2's for the past month and the LCD2's are more enjoyable, and its not just about the bass. The bass is nice, tight and deep but its the mids that are swinging it in their direction. They are more tangible, instruments sound more life like and are separated better. I love the imaging on the LCD's, no matter how complicated the music is, they never seem to struggle - everything stays in the right place and is clearly defined. The hifimans on the hand, have a slight midbass hump and although this can be a nice attribute with some music, it can also make them sound a little messy when the going gets tough. The top end on the HE500's is sweeter and lighter than the Audeze but can also bring a little annoyance on certain music types (e.g brass on older recordings).

This is imo and my preference here, not trying to be objective at all. I'm at a point now where I can see myself being very happy for a long time with the LCD2's, every type of music or recording I throw at them sounds good.. and there's not many headphones can do that.  

(I listen mainly to Jazz and Classical) 

post #11 of 47
Thread Starter 

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Edited by mike1127 - 8/1/13 at 11:08am
post #12 of 47

I"m an acoustic guy. I owned both at the same time and really preferred the LCD2.2s. I actually just gave the HE500s to my daughter. I just don't like the HiFi mans. Maybe it's my 59 year old ears.

post #13 of 47

What about them did you not like?

post #14 of 47
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Originally Posted by pp312 View Post

What about them did you not like

Too bright for me. I also tried the He6 at a meet.(Yes, they were very well powered) and feel the same way. I just like a darker phone. I like the bass better on the lcds also. The lcds are just easier to listen to, although for detailed listening the HiFi mans are better.Poorly encoded music(which I have some) is unlistenable on the hifi mans. JMO

post #15 of 47
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Originally Posted by TickleMeElmo View Post

I have only tried the HE-400 and the LCD-2 is in every way better than the HE-400.
Sorry to cue in here..the only fair comparision with the lcd2 is the he500 in my opinion..and to my ears they go shoulder to shoulder..only lcd goes deeper where the he500 has better mids and more velvetly highs..but are both excellent cans.
The he400 s not a bad cann..but its nowhere close to the above mentioned cans complete sound quality concerned...i know..as i owned the he300/400 and now the 500 and listened at a meet last sunday to the he6/lcd2/lcd3

In a prior post somebody said something that the soundstage and seperation on the audeze lcd2 is better then the hifimans..but maybe the secret is because of the perfect formed pads they have? I actually found a thread where people modded their he500 with pads from lcd2's or lawton angled denon leather pads.with very good results in soundstage and soundquality in general..maybe i will try it too..biggrin.gif

About the he6 being bright..maybe u need to try a he500..the 500 has a more warmer and fuller sound character and less etchy
Edited by hifimanrookie - 11/23/12 at 2:57am
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