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post #91 of 925
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Originally Posted by Skylit View Post

I know a few commented on imaging and soundstage, but how well would you guys rate these on a scale from absolute best to worse with competing products?

 

I'm highly interested in these as they seem quite portable, closed, and honestly a steel at this price point.


Soundstage is average and fairly typical for a closed headphone, nothing special.  The SQ and excellent bass extension is what makes these special IMO.

post #92 of 925
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Originally Posted by Tyll Hertsens View Post

 

Measured the UE4000, and it's got some pretty bad problems.  Left ear has significantly worse bass response, and MUCH higher distortion figures.  The sent me another one....same problem.  I'd steer clear.

 

I did notice that the bass seemed to be shifted a bit towards the left, yet midrange and treble on centred things (snare drum, vocals) were correctly placed dead centre.

 

How did they manage this? confused_face(1).gif Could it be a problem with the pad seal?

post #93 of 925

Sounds like UE6000 could possibly be the best sounding closed headphone below $200 on the market currently? Too bad I don't know where I can pick these up in europe yet.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 10/6/12 at 6:14am
post #94 of 925

I was watching Tyll's video and I see the cable is on the right side on the UE6000, yet it is on the left side on the 4000. WHY?

 

I hate right-sided cables.  That's a dealbreaker.

post #95 of 925
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post

I was watching Tyll's video and I see the cable is on the right side on the UE6000, yet it is on the left side on the 4000. WHY?

 

I hate right-sided cables.  That's a dealbreaker.

Yeah, I was thinking that the macbook pro have a the 3.5mm audio output on the left side. But my X230's audio output on the right side.

post #96 of 925
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post

I was watching Tyll's video and I see the cable is on the right side on the UE6000, yet it is on the left side on the 4000. WHY?

 

I hate right-sided cables.  That's a dealbreaker.


That is a unique dealbreaker. It is THAT bad for you?  Everyone has different needs.  I actually prefer the cable on the right since I use while walking, keep my wallet in my left pocket and Iphone in the right, so I now don't have to run the cable across my body.

post #97 of 925

For me it's a little bad since I my amp lies on the left side of my keyboard on my desk but certainly not a dealbreaker though haha.

post #98 of 925
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post


Soundstage is average and fairly typical for a closed headphone, nothing special.  The SQ and excellent bass extension is what makes these special IMO.

Thanks. I'll grab a pair off logitech once I get ahold of support.  20% off coupon isn't working on anything I put in cart >:(

post #99 of 925
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Originally Posted by Skylit View Post

Thanks. I'll grab a pair off logitech once I get ahold of support.  20% off coupon isn't working on anything I put in cart >:(


Whoa?  What 20% off coupon????

post #100 of 925
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Based on reviews, there is a world of difference between the UE4000 an UE6000 to the point they bear little resemblance to each other, but yes, I find the UE 6000 highly musical as well.  This might be the best multi-genre headphone I ever heard. Of course, my M-100 just shipped....

Is the UE4000 the supra-aural headphone?
I went to my local Apple Store to try them out since you said you preferred them over the Amperior and M-80. Hot dang these sounded pretty good! They were definitely in my top choices of headphones available in the Apple Store (UE4000, Amperior, Sol Republic something).
I tried the UE6000 and they sounded slightly more tinny/can-like than the UE4000 but it might be due to the noise cancelling being on.

As Tyll said, these headphones feel really solidly built. They're mostly all plastic, and the plastic is glossy, but the headphone as a whole feels very solid and study, even at the swivel point of the earpieces.

.....I just realized that I was wearing the headphones backwards at the Apple Store. Stupid right-side cable. T_T


Edited by miceblue - 10/6/12 at 2:00pm
post #101 of 925
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post


Is the UE4000 the supra-aural headphone?
I went to my local Apple Store to try them out since you said you preferred them over the Amperior and M-80. Hot dang these sounded pretty good! They were definitely in my top choices of headphones available in the Apple Store (UE4000, Amperior, Sol Republic something).
I tried the UE6000 and they sounded slightly more tinny/can-like than the UE4000 but it might be due to the noise cancelling being on.
As Tyll said, these headphones feel really solidly built. They're mostly all plastic, and the plastic is glossy, but the headphone as a whole feels very solid and study, even at the swivel point of the earpieces.
.....I just realized that I was wearing the headphones backwards at the Apple Store. Stupid right-side cable. T_T

 

yes, the UE4000 is supra-aural.  If the UE6000 sounds tinny, it is definitely the "noise cancellation" which is really just a v-shape EQ boost.  As Tyll mentioned, the UE6000 is best in passive mode.  In active mode, the bass is overblown and a little out of control with too much high end emphasis as well.  I have been listening most of the day in passive mode through my E11 and these are one of the best headphones I have heard at any price.  The only thing I would improve is the resolution which is still exceptional for its price range.  I was in the Apple store yesterday comparing the Amperior and UE6000.  The Amperior sounded congested in comparison to my ears.  I am very interested in a UE6000 vs. Momentum comparison and hope they arrive in Best Buy shortly.  I'm thinking they may be close sonically.

 

How would you compare the resolution/detail to your SHR940?


Edited by Craigster75 - 10/6/12 at 2:24pm
post #102 of 925
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post

I was watching Tyll's video and I see the cable is on the right side on the UE6000, yet it is on the left side on the 4000. WHY?

 

I hate right-sided cables.  That's a dealbreaker.

 

 

The cable is on the right side on the 6000 because the engineers wanted to balance the NC electronics and weight of cable and entry point.  And that just ended up with it being on the right side.  Weight balance and comfort is what they were seeking, according to the Logitech UE guys to whom I spoke.

post #103 of 925
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post

yes, the UE4000 is supra-aural.  If the UE6000 sounds tinny, it is definitely the "noise cancellation" which is really just a v-shape EQ boost.  As Tyll mentioned, the UE6000 is best in passive mode.  In active mode, the bass is overblown and a little out of control with too much high end emphasis as well.  I have been listening most of the day in passive mode through my E11 and these are one of the best headphones I have heard at any price.  The only thing I would improve is the resolution which is still exceptional for its price range.  I was in the Apple store yesterday comparing the Amperior and UE6000.  The Amperior sounded congested in comparison to my ears.  I am very interested in a UE6000 vs. Momentum comparison and hope they arrive in Best Buy shortly.  I'm thinking they may be close sonically.

 

How would you compare the resolution/detail to your SHR940?

Hey Craigster I know you owned the D600 so could you compare these to the D600? Are the mids more forward when compared to the D600? And how would you compare the bass? I found the D600 to have too much mid bass and too little sub bass for my taste. I basically want a nice set of headphones with good bass for portable use. I did not like the sound of the D600 and found the Momentums to be too uncomfortable. Currently looking at these and M100, looking forward to your impressions of the M100 when you get them.

post #104 of 925
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post

yes, the UE4000 is supra-aural.  If the UE6000 sounds tinny, it is definitely the "noise cancellation" which is really just a v-shape EQ boost.  As Tyll mentioned, the UE6000 is best in passive mode.  In active mode, the bass is overblown and a little out of control with too much high end emphasis as well.  I have been listening most of the day in passive mode through my E11 and these are one of the best headphones I have heard at any price.  The only thing I would improve is the resolution which is still exceptional for its price range.  I was in the Apple store yesterday comparing the Amperior and UE6000.  The Amperior sounded congested in comparison to my ears.  I am very interested in a UE6000 vs. Momentum comparison and hope they arrive in Best Buy shortly.  I'm thinking they may be close sonically.

How would you compare the resolution/detail to your SHR940?

Keep in mind that I only briefly listened to the UE4000's at the Apple Store on their own iPod Touch's, so my impressions may be "iffy". I mostly listened to Linkin Park and Taylor Swift songs to get a good feel for bass punch (kick drums), midrange (guitars and vocals), and highs (cymbals).

Compared to the SRH940, the UE4000 (and I suppose the passive mode 6000 and 9000) definitely has much better bass punch and extension. The large bass presence kind of bled into the midrange a bit, but not too much. This may factor in to the very warm sound signature it has compared to the analytical SRH940. The mids were nice and smooth overall and a bit forward, more so than the M-80 based on memory. The highs seemed rolled-off to me since cymbals didn't have that "ring" after the initial hit. It definitely makes the treble less harsh compared to the SRH940. In terms of overall resolution and detail, there's no comparison; the SRH940 destroys the UE4000. I couldn't really compare the bass texture since the Apple Store was busy with people/employees running all over the place (huge line out the door for the iPhone 5), but the SRH940 definitely has better detail retrieval for the mids and highs. In terms of portable musicality though, I actually liked the UE4000 because of its warm sound. Without using an EQ, the SRH940 sounds very harsh while riding on a bus.

Overall, the UE4000's were very impressive from my initial listen, and YES I definitely like them more than the Amperior because of the non-sibilant highs. For detail retrieval, I think the Amperior does a better job, but the UE4000 was still pretty good from the tracks I sampled.
I'm not sure I would use the UE4000's on-the-go though, since I do like to hear details in the highs but I would say it's a very very good headphone overall.


Holy moly.......the UE4000 is only $100 USD! eek.gif (Apple Stores don't have headphone product info at their headphone stands.....)
I might just pick one up. For $100 I think the UE4000 is an absolute steal for your money. Definitely leagues better than any celebrity endorsed headphone at the Apple Store, and better than some of the Harman Kardon ones too.
Edited by miceblue - 10/6/12 at 4:27pm
post #105 of 925
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Originally Posted by hawk1410 View Post

Hey Craigster I know you owned the D600 so could you compare these to the D600? Are the mids more forward when compared to the D600? And how would you compare the bass? I found the D600 to have too much mid bass and too little sub bass for my taste. I basically want a nice set of headphones with good bass for portable use. I did not like the sound of the D600 and found the Momentums to be too uncomfortable. Currently looking at these and M100, looking forward to your impressions of the M100 when you get them.


I owned the D600 for two weeks before returning them and I was torn about whether to keep them.  I think the midbass on the D600 didn't work because the subbass was lacking, so it felt like the midbass was sort of there by itself.  Also, the bass seemed somehow artificial in the sense that the bass could be heard, but it was lacking any real substance or punch.  I thought the highs had a pleasant presentation, if just a bit bright.  I found the real strength of the D600 was the vocal presentation- excellent resolution and highly detailed.

 

In comparison, The UE6000 has a dynamic, punchy bass that extends deep into the range, making it incredibly satisfying.  Mids and highs are right on the mark to my ears.  Mids are at about the same level as the D600, maybe slightly more recessed.  The EQ is perfection for me.  I like the signature- very natural.  The only thing the D600 does better than the UE6000 is resolution related to vocal detail and a bigger soundstage, but this is minor and doesn't take away from what is a very enjoyable listen.  The difference is resolution is noticeable with artists like Sting and Rush which are two in particular where the D600 shines.  However, I have yet to hear a headphone that does pop and EDM as well as the UE6000.  I say this not because it has the most bass, because there are other headphones with greater quantity, but the quality, depth and punch is excellent.  The bass isn't the star; it complements the excellent tone of the mids and highs working together to form a fantastic sound.  If you like Rihanna, Carly Rae Jepsen, Nicki Minaj, Karmin or any female vocalists, I highly recommend these.  Even Ellie Goulding sounds great with the extended highs and no sibilance!

 

As far as the build, these are very comfortable with a perfect fit around my ears, as solid as plastic and rubber construction can be.  The only "cheap" plastic area I see is the pop-off top for the battery compartment.  I could see that breaking at some point if I'm not careful.

 

Although it might sound like it, I don't work for Logitech, I am just passionate about these headphones right now because they are THAT good.  I am going through my playlists and certain songs come on, then I continue to say to myself, "I can't believe these are $200 headphones."  Before declaring them my personal winner of the closed portable battle going on right now, I still plan to audition the AKG Tiesto K267, Ultrasone Signature DJ, Momentum and of course the M-100.


Edited by Craigster75 - 10/6/12 at 4:43pm
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