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Seeking a new recommendation to replace Uptowns

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Well heres my story. I bought the Phillips Citiscape Uptowns. Loved them at first but they just aren't what I am looking for in a pair of headphones I guess. Everyone here has been amazing with my search for the best I can afford. (Ranging 75-125 with a tiny bit of wiggle room, 150 is to far.) My problem with the Uptowns is that they just don't have enough punch to the bass and my laptop is simply not enough to power them nor is my phone, even with proper power (I borrowed a friend of mine's amp as well as used them on a family desktop we had with a better soundcard in it) the bass wasn't there for me in terms of punch, which i should have known going into it they aren't praised for their bass but I thought it would at least have some sort of punch to it. That combined with the power issue they just aren't the can's for me.

 

Recommendend a while ago in my other threads was the M50's, but from what I have read is that the White box vs a old box M50 can make all the difference in that the white box isn't as good as the others. Is there any way I'd be able to order these online from amazon etc and know that I am getting what I am looking for? Can anyone elaborate a bit more on how different they are etc etc?

 

Here is my "looking for" type of explanation.

 

Comfort is something I really enjoyed about the Uptowns, they only had to go through the minimal adjustments on my head (tilting the band back and forth and 30 minutes or so etc etc) so something that is going to be close to on them.

 

Closed, over ear. The uptowns did this pretty well for the most part but had to adjust the ears a bit different ways to get them just right. Closed- I prefer to only hear my music and as far as leakage goes as long as they don't leak insanely bad I can cope. I know there was someone talking about Supra-circumfal versus Circumaural isn't that big a deal to me I guess as long as they will be Over-the-ear and not on-the-ear.

 

Bass, like I mentioned this was my issue with the uptowns. I enjoy feeling my bass as well as hearing it but given a choice id rather feel it than hear it. 

 

Easy to power, I don't have a portable amp of my own yet and my laptop had issues powering the Uptowns so whatever it is recommended to me, I'd like for it to be able to go off no amp. I plan to buy a Fiio 6 or possibly 7 in a bit but until then i'd be sol. As far as I can tell, my laptop puts very low power to the headphone jack and this worries me.

 

Good Highs and mids would be a defiant plus. My phillips were great at producing sound for my alternative side of music and had great mid and highs, id like to do all I could without sacrificing that aspect and getting a better bass.

 

Listen to: A lot of techno/electronica, trance/dubstep etc etc, classic rock, alternative, 90's, rap/hip-hop, don't ask me why but I have a pandora station for quartet's, today's hits type of stuf etc etc.

 

I will answer all questions you guys have etc. I wouldn't consider myself a bass head in the terms that I defiantly 100% need to have large EXTRA BASS type headphones, but I need something that can as least push enough bass through to make me feel it in the songs and get into the music. I don't want to have to sacrifice high synths, pianos, violins, vocals etc to much in order to get that bass response.

 

While I am deeply considering the M-50's, any other recommendations are greatly appreciated and will be looked at. Just make sure their in-stock wink_face.gif (Had a few people suggest headphones that were unavailable in my last thread.)

 

EDIT: Thought i'd add in a few little things I thought about as well. Detachable chord would be a plus to me just because I'd rather pay to replace a chord than pay to replace a pair of cans. 

 

Something I won't have to mod/change things to as well. I'd like for it to be good out of the box with 0 modifications etc. 


Edited by Fballboy23 - 8/20/12 at 9:50am
post #2 of 21

M-Audio Q40. Here's a review. The M50s have recessed mids if you're looking to compliment your other genres. Or also try the Ultrasone HFI 580; but there have been complaints about the comfort.


Edited by Chimecho - 8/20/12 at 9:26am
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Originally Posted by Chimecho View Post

M-Audio Q40. Here's a review. The M50s have recessed mids if you're looking to compliment your other genres. Or also try the Ultrasone HFI 580; but there have been complaints about the comfort.

My thing with the Q40's is that he had to mod them as well to make the comfortable. I didn't post it in my initial post but im looking for something I won't have to mod out of the box or make changes to. I am ok with recessed mids as long as it isn't to bad and their still somewhat present. The Q40's also seemed a lil differently described in terms of what im looking for bass wise, i wasn't sure if he was talking that the bass is able to be felt or if he could hear it properly and it sounded good. I took a look at the HiFi 580's as well and im hearing the same thing you mentioned. 

 

Also looked at the V-Moda LP's, but very concerned with their build quality and how many people report that they break/crack near the screws, kinda made me sad because they looked great otherwise (aside from the very thin metal holders for the cups, I was wondering if this problem wasn't fixable by possibly loosening those screws just a bit but once again not sure. Also not sure if their fully over the ear or if they don't have an on-the-ear element to them.

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Obviously I know im not going to hit all of my criteria, but can anyone help me out here? ='/ I plan to head up to Guitar Center and Best Buy for some listening tests to hear what im looking at. Any suggestions?

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Bump. Anyone? ='(

post #6 of 21

Have you considered the JVC HA-S500? They won't be available to try out at Guitar Center or Best Buy but you can find them for sale online (Amazon, eBay) as well as the classifieds here. Very bass heavy.

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Have you considered the JVC HA-S500? They won't be available to try out at Guitar Center or Best Buy but you can find them for sale online (Amazon, eBay) as well as the classifieds here. Very bass heavy.

I hadn't even heard of them honestly, but if they just very bass heavy im not sure if it'd be up my ally. I want something with enough punch in the bass but doesnt compromise on the mid/highs that bad. I've been thinking about saving up for the V-Moda LP2's, not sure yet because of the earlier concerns with the LP's. Idk. I guess I just have a bunch of searching I have to do.

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Originally Posted by Fballboy23 View Post

I hadn't even heard of them honestly, but if they just very bass heavy im not sure if it'd be up my ally. I want something with enough punch in the bass but doesnt compromise on the mid/highs that bad. I've been thinking about saving up for the V-Moda LP2's, not sure yet because of the earlier concerns with the LP's. Idk. I guess I just have a bunch of searching I have to do.

 

wait for the m100..

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Originally Posted by bigheadhifi View Post

 

wait for the m100..

When are these supposed to come out do you know? Also what is the price range going to start at?

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When are these supposed to come out do you know? Also what is the price range going to start at?

The M100's are on pre order as we speak. They start for 310 US Dollars. There is a lot of hubbub going on with these specific ones. They are supposed to be "Freaking Awesome!" as some put. The M100's should sound more flat compared to V-Moda's previous releases such as the LP's, LP2's, M80's, etc. They should come out soon this year hopefully. 

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Originally Posted by joseisanewb012 View Post

The M100's are on pre order as we speak. They start for 310 US Dollars. There is a lot of hubbub going on with these specific ones. They are supposed to be "Freaking Awesome!" as some put. The M100's should sound more flat compared to V-Moda's previous releases such as the LP's, LP2's, M80's, etc. They should come out soon this year hopefully. 

Thanks for the information. I guess the few little issues with the M100's I have is that firstly, they are 310, about 1/3 of over my budget x.x Secondly Idk if im really after something flat as much as I am something that is going to have enough bass to give me a thump but still retain clairity in the Highs as well as clean mids. What I've been looking at from V-Moda is the LP's and LP2's. The LP's scare me in the sense that a lot of people said they broke (plastic chipped away etc etc) and im curious if that wasn't fixed in the LP2's. Really any information as well as other headphone recommendations. 

post #12 of 21

You might look into the Panasonic HTF600s.  They're surprisingly good for the price, and they are *very* punchy, while remaining almost as clear as the Uptowns.  Of course, the build quality is not as good, but then, they're $30.  Either that, or get a DAC/amp.  I've found my Uptowns to have plenty of punch.

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Originally Posted by Fballboy23 View Post

Thanks for the information. I guess the few little issues with the M100's I have is that firstly, they are 310, about 1/3 of over my budget x.x Secondly Idk if im really after something flat as much as I am something that is going to have enough bass to give me a thump but still retain clairity in the Highs as well as clean mids. What I've been looking at from V-Moda is the LP's and LP2's. The LP's scare me in the sense that a lot of people said they broke (plastic chipped away etc etc) and im curious if that wasn't fixed in the LP2's. Really any information as well as other headphone recommendations. 

Now the LP's are pretty bass punchy. Some say it has WAY too much bass, but to me, they are not as bad as people say they are. The plastic hasn't broken off for me and I have had it for about a week now :l The LP's are super comfy when you put them on, but after a few hours, they tend to hurt a bit since they clamp a bit more than your usual headphones. I get use to them after a while. I love the LP's since they are my first set of headphones. If you have any questions about them, feel free to PM me or something ^^

post #14 of 21

The cracking problem was in initial stock and it's no longer a problem at this point.  You can just ignore the complaints about the cracks so go ahead and get them.

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You might look into the Panasonic HTF600s.  They're surprisingly good for the price, and they are *very* punchy, while remaining almost as clear as the Uptowns.  Of course, the build quality is not as good, but then, they're $30.  Either that, or get a DAC/amp.  I've found my Uptowns to have plenty of punch.

Well I love my uptowns for mainly everything except that I haven't got a good punch out of it yet. Maybe I'll bring them up to Guitar Center when I go for my listening test and see if they have a portable amp that would suffice (possible that my buddies amp wasn't working right or something, idk -shrug-). 

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