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post #4786 of 6344
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Speaking of "interference from powerful radio signals": Do you know that the one of the uBer Cable's design features is 100% RF shielding from plug to eartips? Is that the reason for it's legendary improvement is SQ?...possibly. It certainly is unique in that construction feature amongst all other 'upgrade' cables.

Interesting .... and how do they do that then? What kind of shielding provides 100% negation of RF frequencies? I don't think that the plastic that the units are made from would protect against RF interference, which might suggest that it is not RF shielding that improves the SQ.

 

I only know of one material that would stop absolutely any frequency from penetrating, and it would certainly be impractical. I mean all RF, that's a pretty broad spectrum.

post #4787 of 6344
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Originally Posted by Vespertine View Post
 

Interesting .... and how do they do that then? What kind of shielding provides 100% negation of RF frequencies? I don't think that the plastic that the units are made from would protect against RF interference, which might suggest that it is not RF shielding that improves the SQ.

 

I only know of one material that would stop absolutely any frequency from penetrating, and it would certainly be impractical. I mean all RF, that's a pretty broad spectrum.

Hi,

 

Would like to share real life experience on the Uber with you guys.

 

In fact it doesn't really matter whether Uber can do 100% shielding or not and the only thing I know it brings the 1Plus2 performance to another level [when compared to my stock Tralucent Silver].  

 

FYI, I've picked the stock silver as my travel cable over the stock gold/silver as it sounds better in my combo (or to my taste).  

 

Cheers,

post #4788 of 6344
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Originally Posted by flymetothemoon View Post
 

Hi,

 

Would like to share real life experience on the Uber with you guys.

 

In fact it doesn't really matter whether Uber can do 100% shielding or not and the only thing I know it brings the 1Plus2 performance to another level [when compared to my stock Tralucent Silver].  

 

FYI, I've picked the stock silver as my travel cable over the stock gold/silver as it sounds better in my combo (or to my taste).  

 

Cheers,

I suspect that the Uber simply has a much larger proportion of Gold in it, possibly some platinum and or silver also. It is just a different conductor, but if I were to put money on it, I would say that it has a very high gold content. This is why it is so expensive, and it is also why it comes with fragility warning, twisted pair gold, isn't very strong at all.

 

Yeah, that's what I think.

 

Now, let's not forget why Gold is such a good conductor especially with regards to sound. What do very dense metals reflect, no shield needed?

post #4789 of 6344

http://seekingalpha.com/article/548251-a-truly-physical-perspective-on-precious-metals?source=email_macro_view&ifp=0

 

Check it out!

 

Gavin may even have some Platinum in there too :)

 

Dense rocks! The more dense, the less friction, less friction = the snappier and higher fidelity of the wavelet signature arriving at the drivers.

 

Yeah....

 

We don't want friction for good SQ.It is like pass the parcel, the more people involved, standing next to each other, tightly, the less chance there is that the parcel will be dropped or damaged. Copper isn't so dense, so in this silly analogy, people chuck the parcel to each other as they have to, so sometimes it gets dropped and or damaged, it certainly wont be the same parcel by the last person as it was with the first person, it has just been thrown, of course it will be degraded in some way :)

 

Unlike electron dense Gold.

 

It might be better deep fried, everything else seems to be :)

 

I hope my smiley faces means that this post wont be deleted. I am not trolling or thread crapping, just trying to get back on to why the 1plus2's sound so f'ing amazing, whichever cable you use.

 

I have always maintained that different conductors will give a different SQ, I just don't think that their properties change over time, indeed this is less likely with a more dense metal. However I appreciate, respect and understand that people have a different opinion to me on that. Which is cool.

 

After all Ladies and Gents, we are talking about twisted pair, that's it...

 

Another clue might be this.... like a quiz, please fill in the next item in the sequence in Tralucent's R'n'D --> Uber

 

Silver = Good SQ - Silver and Gold = Even Better SQ - Gold = ??????

 

Occam's Razor?

 

Non?

post #4790 of 6344
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Originally Posted by Vespertine View Post
 

Interesting .... and how do they do that then? What kind of shielding provides 100% negation of RF frequencies? I don't think that the plastic that the units are made from would protect against RF interference, which might suggest that it is not RF shielding that improves the SQ.

 

I only know of one material that would stop absolutely any frequency from penetrating, and it would certainly be impractical. I mean all RF, that's a pretty broad spectrum.

 

The uBer has a braided (woven) conductive shield from plug to earpiece connectors shunted to ground at the plug:

 

post #4791 of 6344
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Originally Posted by burtomr View Post
 

 

The uBer has a braided (woven) conductive shield from plug to earpiece connectors shunted to ground at the plug:

 

 

OK, so how does that alone improve the sound quality?

post #4792 of 6344
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Originally Posted by Vespertine View Post
 

 

OK, so how does that alone improve the sound quality?

I mean if a grounded shield on cables improves sound quality that much, then after reading this, every single headphone company will do it. It is not hard to achieve.

post #4793 of 6344
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Originally Posted by Vespertine View Post

 

OK, so how does that alone improve the sound quality?

 

Shielding 'may' be a important factor missing from other companies cable designs...but that's not my department...I just know that the uBer has a grounded shield. There are other design elements like the wire composition, insulation, etc. that also factor in to the SQ. I would suggest you ask Gavin @ Tanslucent for more info. 

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One of the major reasons the uber sounds better is because it consists of solid core wire instead of stranded. In theory your signal is better transmitted. Other factors include shielding, metallurgy, and design (dielectric, etc.). 

post #4795 of 6344
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Originally Posted by Vespertine View Post

Silver = Good SQ - Silver and Gold = Even Better SQ - Gold = ??????

Occam's Razor?

Non?

Ha! Don't even go there.

I play flute and the arguments over metals are never resolved (and never-ending). I hear differences with different metals, but physics sort of says "no".

Anyway, my gold flute sounds warmer than my silver/platinum alloy, which sounds more brilliant.
post #4796 of 6344
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Ha! Don't even go there.

I play flute and the arguments over metals are never resolved (and never-ending). I hear differences with different metals, but physics sort of says "no".

Anyway, my gold flute sounds warmer than my silver/platinum alloy, which sounds more brilliant.

Well physics kind of says the resonance would differ ... like really very very slightly .... in-perceivable to the human ear for sure, between metals that is ....

 

However to an experienced flortist (that is coming up as a spell error, I am sure it is flortist?) the sound changes would be perceives as I suspect there are more variables than just metal types, could be wrong, but a really very interesting comparison.

post #4797 of 6344
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Well physics kind of says the resonance would differ ... like really very very slightly ....

I suspect there are more variables than just metal types, could be wrong, but a really very interesting comparison.

Well Vespertine, good to hear physics doesn't totally disagree, and with you're background you would know!

Other variables do make a big difference in sound. Headjoint embouchure hole cut and shape being the most significant.

Anyway I am way, way off topic, so I'll shut up. I'll just say that flutes, and all other orchestral instruments sound fantastic with the 1plus2.
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post #4799 of 6344
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Originally Posted by R Scott Ireland View Post


Ha! Don't even go there.

I play flute and the arguments over metals are never resolved (and never-ending). I hear differences with different metals, but physics sort of says "no".

Anyway, my gold flute sounds warmer than my silver/platinum alloy, which sounds more brilliant.

Probably the matter of different resonance frequency from different metals and that made them sound different.  

post #4800 of 6344
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All that glitters

http://www.head-fi.org/t/633511/pictures-of-your-portable-rig-part-xvi/8985#post_10094894

[SNIP!]

Someone actually paid for 4N Au back in December, oh well.
Err, I don't think I know my metals well enough but isn't gold more resistive than copper? I understand putting 1-2% in a silver cable but 4N Au?

Or is it just proof of concept?
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