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Originally Posted by Girls Generation View Post

I cannot say for certain for now, I need a fully burned in silver cable to determine vocals, so I will get back to you guys soon on that when the demo pairs come in.


I can tell you now the vocals/mids on these are the best I've heard yet. Bar none. The 334s mids are very nice I agree. But also at the same time they are overblown (boosted) and still not as good as these mids.... These things aren't anywhere near being burned in yet so take my early comments with a grain of salt. They are continuing to improve with usage.... It actually took me a while to start to grasp their sound. Hell the best IEMs/headphones I've had in the past never wowed me on the initial listen and I can say this is one of them. But the reward................. tongue_smile.gif I am also extremely surprised at how neutral/balanced these things are.


Edited by lee730 - 12/23/12 at 10:07am
post #857 of 5629
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post


I can tell you now the vocals/mids on these are the best I've heard yet. Bar none. The 334s mids are very nice I agree. But also at the same time they are overblown (boosted) and still not as good as these mids.... These things aren't anywhere near being burned in yet so take my early comments with a grain of salt. They are continuing to improve with usage.... It actually took me a while to start to grasp their sound. Hell the best IEMs/headphones I've had in the past never wowed me on the initial listen and I can say this is one of them. But the reward................. tongue_smile.gif I am also extremely surprised at how neutral/balanced these things are.

Lol. I love the IEMs that present smooth and details while still remain neutral.
I was been told that togo334 has a unbeatable mids especially for vocals, but I think it really depends on personal references.
Anyway, my ear would judge that later on smily_headphones1.gif
post #858 of 5629
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Originally Posted by Girls Generation View Post

I'd rather not... After the JH3A debacle, I'm sick of it. (Lost $200 and received nothing.)

I know Schiit's Statements are going to be their flagship for a long time, and they're going all out on it, but they're most likely going to be around $1500ish range since Schiit always has affordable gear, and they don't price their gear extremely high like other companies. I think they said the Statement amp is going to be a hybrid design with tubes. I think they also said it's going to be balanced, but with SE out as well unlike the Mjolnir. They also said the size is going to be about the Mjolnir in length, but 1.5 times as wide ish. They're thinking early next year but have not given us an official estimate since they're not doing that anymore. We will see what changes until then... Hopefully I'll have enough saved up by then.

My cousin is a big fan of GG lol. He's talking about Korean singers all the time...
I'm somehow influenced by him, but GangNam Style is the most funniest song ever, haha
post #859 of 5629

I guess I'm just too used to ES5 mids :P

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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post


I can tell you now the vocals/mids on these are the best I've heard yet. Bar none. The 334s mids are very nice I agree. But also at the same time they are overblown (boosted) and still not as good as these mids.... These things aren't anywhere near being burned in yet so take my early comments with a grain of salt. They are continuing to improve with usage.... It actually took me a while to start to grasp their sound. Hell the best IEMs/headphones I've had in the past never wowed me on the initial listen and I can say this is one of them. But the reward................. tongue_smile.gif I am also extremely surprised at how neutral/balanced these things are.

post #860 of 5629
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I guess I'm just too used to ES5 mids :P

So you prefer ES5 for mids presentation?
How does it sounds compare with 1P2?
post #861 of 5629

Been listening to 1Plus2 almost a week or two now. Haven't really contributed much lately so here's my two cents.

 

1Plus2 sounded bit "compact", it sounded as if everything was compressed together. All the details were still there, but as time passed by this compression loosened up. To be honest, I would have to say it used to have bit sharper characteristics in overall, especially bass. Now those sharp corners has been sanded down, it's really smooth yet accurate but not bloated by any means. In a sense it shares similar trait as IE80 or EX1000; it fits right in the middle. It's not bloated and too smooth like IE80, but at the same time it's not too thin like EX1000. 

 

4.Ai and 1Plus2 doesn't really share much traits. 4.Ai holds its ground against 1Plus2 pretty good. Both are smooth and balanced or whatever you'd like to call it. Is 1Plus2 really better than 4.Ai? To be honest, it's personal preference. I own both, like both, and can listen to both at any given time. Do I favor one over another? Not really, mainly because both excels are different things.

 

4.Ai in a nutshell

- Airy

- Everything sounds bit closer

- Balanced/whatever

- Good imaging

- Lack of bass "thump" (obviously because it's BA)

- Sometimes songs sounds bit washed up.

 

1Plus2 in a nutshell

- Airy (vocals)

- Everything sounds bit further

- Balanced/whatever

- Good imaging

- Bass "thump"

 

You may disagree or agree with the following points for each IEMs, but it basically comes down to preferences. If you don't like bass thump and want as much as micro-detail as possible then 4.Ai is definitely for you. But if you enjoy BA IEMs for details but also need some bass, then I would high recommend 1Plus2 over 4.Ai. By all means, this isn't for bassheads. It's not muddy and bloated like IE80. To be honest, I don't really care what people says about IE80 and EX1000 (I own them both); neither will ever present details on BA level. 1Plus2 obviously can do this because it has BA drivers. Best of both worlds really.

 

 

I've had FitEar ToGo! 334 for many months, it simply is one of the best universals ever. I personally rank it extremely high, it's close to being the Holy Grail of universals. I own both, I am just a humble enthusiast, not a MoT or sponsor so I have nothing to loose by favoring one of another. This is just my personal perspective, so I hope none of you take it too seriously.

 

334 in a nutshell

- Airy

- Good imaging

- Lack of bass "thump"

- Balanced/Transparent/whatever

- Mid-centric to a degree, but not really. I can see why some people may say that.

 

Some may view 334 as just another multi-BA IEM while 1Plus2 differentiates itself by being a hybrid. I'd agree to that, because that's the simple truth. 334 indeed is just another multi-BA IEM, but it's one heck of an IEM. Detail wise, 334 still wins hands down. For a BA its bass is... really well done. If you really want to listen to music without adding or subtracting anything then 334 is probably your best bet. Totally opposite from 1Plus2; a polar opposite I must say. 1Plus2 makes music sound fuller, and smoother. Overall, I'd have to say 334 is more energetic and 1Plus2 is more laid back, bit more relaxing per se. Different IEMs for different preferences. 

 

This basically concludes my personal two cents, tried to keep it as simple as possible (no audiophile mumbo jumbo). Hope this helped.


Edited by Bokyung - 12/23/12 at 4:13pm
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Originally Posted by Bokyung View Post

Been listening to 1Plus2 almost a week or two now. Haven't really contributed much lately so here's my two cents.

1Plus2 sounded bit "compact", it sounded as if everything was compressed together. All the details were still there, but as time passed by this compression loosened up. To be honest, I would have to say it used to have bit sharper characteristics in overall, especially bass. Now those sharp corners has been sanded down, it's really smooth yet accurate but not bloated by any means. In a sense it shares similar trait as IE80 or EX1000; it fits right in the middle. It's not bloated and too smooth like IE80, but at the same time it's not too thin like EX1000. 

4.Ai and 1Plus2 doesn't really share much traits. 4.Ai holds its ground against 1Plus2 pretty good. Both are smooth and balanced or whatever you'd like to call it. Is 1Plus2 really better than 4.Ai? To be honest, it's personal preference. I own both, like both, and can listen to both at any given time. Do I favor one over another? Not really, mainly because both excels are different things.

4.Ai in a nutshell
- Airy
- Everything sounds bit closer
- Balanced/whatever
- Good imaging
- Lack of bass "thump" (obviously because it's BA)
- Sometimes songs sounds bit washed up.

1Plus2 in a nutshell
- Airy (vocals)
- Everything sounds bit further
- Balanced/whatever
- Good imaging
- Bass "thump"

You may disagree or agree with the following points for each IEMs, but it basically comes down to preferences. If you don't like bass thump and want as much as micro-detail as possible then 4.Ai is definitely for you. But if you enjoy BA IEMs for details but also need some bass, then I would high recommend 1Plus2 over 4.Ai. By all means, this isn't for bassheads. It's not muddy and bloated like IE80. To be honest, I don't really care what people says about IE80 and EX1000 (I own them both); neither will ever present details on BA level. 1Plus2 obviously can do this because it has BA drivers. Best of both worlds really.


I've had FitEar ToGo! 334 for many months, it simply is one of the best universals ever. I personally rank it extremely high, it's close to being the Holy Grail of universals. I own both, I am just a humble enthusiast, not a MoT or sponsor so I have nothing to loose by favoring one of another. This is just my personal perspective, so I hope none of you take it too seriously.

334 in a nutshell
- Airy
- Good imaging
- Lack of bass "thump"
- Balanced/Transparent/whatever
- Mid-centric to a degree, but not really. I can see why some people may say that.

Some may view 334 as just another multi-BA IEM while 1Plus2 differentiates itself by being a hybrid. I'd agree to that, because that's the simple truth. 334 indeed is just another multi-BA IEM, but it's one heck of an IEM. Detail wise, 334 still wins hands down. For a BA its bass is... really well done. If you really want to listen to music without adding or subtracting anything then 334 is probably your best bet. Totally opposite from 1Plus2; a polar opposite I must say. 1Plus2 makes music sound fuller, and smoother. Overall, I'd have to say 334 is more energetic and 1Plus2 is more laid back, bit more relaxing per se. Different IEMs for different preferences. 

This basically concludes my personal two cents, tried to keep it as simple as possible (no audiophile mumbo jumbo). Hope this helped.

Your impression is very objective. I must agree 334 really has an impressive bass extension that a BA IEM can possibly produce.
I personally like Dynamic Drivers because of their realistic bass presentation, so hybrid IEM shares the merit of both DD and BA.
post #863 of 5629

The next three dream IEM:

 

1-Tralucent hybrid

2-EX-1000

3-Fitear GO 111!

 

I think I might buy the EX-1000 first simply because it is matter of months before it is all gone. But from what I have read I honestly should have all my energy focused on the tralucent alone as it seems to be an inner ear heaven! 

post #864 of 5629
How many hours do you have on them now...?

That silver cable needs well over a 100hrs before it starts to settles in...I'm near that I am still finding it a bit splashy and grainy at times....
post #865 of 5629
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Originally Posted by Bokyung View Post

Been listening to 1Plus2 almost a week or two now. Haven't really contributed much lately so here's my two cents.

 

1Plus2 sounded bit "compact", it sounded as if everything was compressed together. All the details were still there, but as time passed by this compression loosened up. To be honest, I would have to say it used to have bit sharper characteristics in overall, especially bass. Now those sharp corners has been sanded down, it's really smooth yet accurate but not bloated by any means. In a sense it shares similar trait as IE80 or EX1000; it fits right in the middle. It's not bloated and too smooth like IE80, but at the same time it's not too thin like EX1000. 

 

4.Ai and 1Plus2 doesn't really share much traits. 4.Ai holds its ground against 1Plus2 pretty good. Both are smooth and balanced or whatever you'd like to call it. Is 1Plus2 really better than 4.Ai? To be honest, it's personal preference. I own both, like both, and can listen to both at any given time. Do I favor one over another? Not really, mainly because both excels are different things.

 

4.Ai in a nutshell

- Airy

- Everything sounds bit closer

- Balanced/whatever

- Good imaging

- Lack of bass "thump" (obviously because it's BA)

- Sometimes songs sounds bit washed up.

 

1Plus2 in a nutshell

- Airy (vocals)

- Everything sounds bit further

- Balanced/whatever

- Good imaging

- Bass "thump"

 

You may disagree or agree with the following points for each IEMs, but it basically comes down to preferences. If you don't like bass thump and want as much as micro-detail as possible then 4.Ai is definitely for you. But if you enjoy BA IEMs for details but also need some bass, then I would high recommend 1Plus2 over 4.Ai. By all means, this isn't for bassheads. It's not muddy and bloated like IE80. To be honest, I don't really care what people says about IE80 and EX1000 (I own them both); neither will ever present details on BA level. 1Plus2 obviously can do this because it has BA drivers. Best of both worlds really.

 

 

I've had FitEar ToGo! 334 for many months, it simply is one of the best universals ever. I personally rank it extremely high, it's close to being the Holy Grail of universals. I own both, I am just a humble enthusiast, not a MoT or sponsor so I have nothing to loose by favoring one of another. This is just my personal perspective, so I hope none of you take it too seriously.

 

334 in a nutshell

- Airy

- Good imaging

- Lack of bass "thump"

- Balanced/Transparent/whatever

- Mid-centric to a degree, but not really. I can see why some people may say that.

 

Some may view 334 as just another multi-BA IEM while 1Plus2 differentiates itself by being a hybrid. I'd agree to that, because that's the simple truth. 334 indeed is just another multi-BA IEM, but it's one heck of an IEM. Detail wise, 334 still wins hands down. For a BA its bass is... really well done. If you really want to listen to music without adding or subtracting anything then 334 is probably your best bet. Totally opposite from 1Plus2; a polar opposite I must say. 1Plus2 makes music sound fuller, and smoother. Overall, I'd have to say 334 is more energetic and 1Plus2 is more laid back, bit more relaxing per se. Different IEMs for different preferences. 

 

This basically concludes my personal two cents, tried to keep it as simple as possible (no audiophile mumbo jumbo). Hope this helped.

 

Nicely expressed. I did not feel audio~inferior and I understood everything you wrote.

post #866 of 5629
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Originally Posted by xinghui0711 View Post


Your impression is very objective. I must agree 334 really has an impressive bass extension that a BA IEM can possibly produce.
I personally like Dynamic Drivers because of their realistic bass presentation, so hybrid IEM shares the merit of both DD and BA.

Thanks for taking time to read. Yeah 334 is as good as it gets with universal BA IEM. Again, completely agree with you. Hybrid shares both traits of DD and BA, I can see why some people prefers hybrids over pure IEMs.

 

 

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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post

The next three dream IEM:

 

1-Tralucent hybrid

2-EX-1000

3-Fitear GO 111!

 

I think I might buy the EX-1000 first simply because it is matter of months before it is all gone. But from what I have read I honestly should have all my energy focused on the tralucent alone as it seems to be an inner ear heaven! 

 

I'd get FitEar 111 last, since you already have ER4S. I have FitEar 111, it's supposed to a lot like ER4S (correct me if I am wrong!)

 

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Originally Posted by toads View Post

How many hours do you have on them now...?
That silver cable needs well over a 100hrs before it starts to settles in...I'm near that I am still finding it a bit splashy and grainy at times....

 

I'd say good 300 hours for me.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Saraguie View Post

 

Nicely expressed. I did not feel audio~inferior and I understood everything you wrote.

 

 

Thanks for taking your time to read that wall of text :D

post #867 of 5629

very nice and informative comparison..

 

so the vocals of the 1p2 sounds more further then 334?

 

are you using stock cable on the 334 and the optional gold cable on the 1p2?

 

 

thanks

post #868 of 5629
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Originally Posted by soullinker20 View Post

very nice and informative comparison..

 

so the vocals of the 1p2 sounds more further then 334?

 

are you using stock cable on the 334 and the optional gold cable on the 1p2?

 

 

thanks

 

Yeah, vocals on 1Plus2 is bit further back compared to 334.

 

I am using stock cables for both.

post #869 of 5629
Thanks for the impressions Bokyung, vey well written and easy to understand. Feels like it could be a real toss up for me, from your description it sounds like the 1plus2 might be the cure for the few isses I have with the 4.Ai but lose some of the aspects I love about 4.Ai.
post #870 of 5629
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Originally Posted by Bokyung View Post

 

Yeah, vocals on 1Plus2 is bit further back compared to 334.

 

I am using stock cables for both.

 

talk about vocals, which of the two sound emotional to you? or are they on par?

 

 

thanks :)

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