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post #4516 of 5600

Personally, I do not like the fact that the tera has no screen and plays only WAV, but other than that, it seems like it is quite a nice player, but Charles is too greedy, doubling the price...

post #4517 of 5600
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

Lin, absolutely agree. one man's hell might be another man's paradise rolleyes.gif

speaking of which Mimouille just cannot even imagine how much i wanted to buy Terra player before i discovered WAV only issue.
so yes, i admit for many Terra is magic DAP but for me the issue i mentioned made Terra redundant.

same applies to 1p2, for me i find them perfect, but i fully admit there will be people who will not agree to trade away looks and cable flexibility. no problem, this is why we have so many companies and offerings around o2smile.gif
You like analog sound so the Tera is ideal for you...and pairs nicely with 1plus2. With dbpoweramp, it took me 5 hours to convert 170g of flac to wav.
post #4518 of 5600
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post
 

Lin, absolutely agree. one man's hell might be another man's paradise :rolleyes:

 

speaking of which Mimouille just cannot even imagine how much i wanted to buy Terra player before i discovered WAV only issue.

so yes, i admit for many Terra is magic DAP but for me the issue i mentioned made Terra redundant.

 

same applies to 1p2, for me i find them perfect, but i fully admit there will be people who will not agree to trade away looks and cable flexibility. no problem, this is why we have so many companies and offerings around :o2smile:

 

Actually I have talked to some people who do not agree to the way it sounds too, not just ergonomics. The just don't (logically) frequent this thread. I'll admit and after all this time, will still stand by my original 1Plus2 review. It's not just what I heard then but even now if I find the original Tralucent Silver v1.0 cable floating around, the 1Plus2 doesn't suit me.

 

That's how much the Uber cable has turned me around for the 1Plus2 sound.

post #4519 of 5600
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post

You like analog sound so the Tera is ideal for you...and pairs nicely with 1plus2. With dbpoweramp, it took me 5 hours to convert 170g of flac to wav.

 

WAV only wouldn't be a problem in my book, I'd just leave my collection in FLAC and use Mediamonkey's auto-conversion feature to automatically decode tracks to WAV during sync. That said, I wasn't that much impressed by the Tera, but it sure does sound "analogue". ;) 

post #4520 of 5600

Mimouille, OMG, no.... i cannot think about converting 750G of flacs into wav, no way. :(

 

Anak, on uBer cable, do you know why sometimes i hate HeadFi? :deadhorse:

 

James, perhaps something did not work for you which is a matter of personal taste, still all reputable high-end reviewers point to that Terra sound is simply the best high-end sound you can get from a portable. anyway, there is no issue about sound or pairing which i believe is great with Terra, but like i said 750G converting is not for me, i am too lazy for this not mention WAV are bigger in size if i am not mistaken so more space taking on HDD.

 

oh yes, you know how to make me sweat.... analogue :angry_face::tongue:


Edited by Gintaras - 10/18/13 at 2:23am
post #4521 of 5600

dbpoweramp - NOT Mac compatible :o

post #4522 of 5600
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post
 

James, perhaps something did not work for you which is a matter of personal taste, still all reputable high-end reviewers point to that Terra sound is simply the best high-end sound you can get from a portable. anyway, there is no issue about sound or pairing which i believe is great with Terra ...

 

I'm afraid that's not a matter of personal taste. There are measurable and verifiable issues about pairing the Tera Player with certain IEMs, which I've tried to explain in the post quoted below. Nevertheless the TP may well pair nicely with the 1plus2, no doubt about that.

 

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Originally Posted by james444 View Post

 

Actually, there are two potential issues with the Tera Player, high output impedance and capacitors in the output stage.

 

High output impedance (OI): The TP's headphone ports are rated 10 and 20ohms. This will affect the frequency response of IEMs with a non-linear impedance curve. Usually, dynamic drivers have rather linear impedance, like e.g. the IE800. If you look at the IE800's impedance curve (first graph), you'll see pretty much a straight line. That means the IE800 will not be affected by high OI. Now look at the 334's impedance graph, which is far from a straight line. That means the 334's frequency response will be affected by high OI and they may sound off as a result.

 

Capacitors in the output stage: The TP has been reported to having capacitors in the output stage and not being able to drive phones < 50ohms properly. The result is bass roll-off, which gets gradually worse with lower impedance. Note that this affects all types of IEMs, dynamic drivers as well as BAs. For instance, the 16ohms IE800 show a substantial reduction in bass when driven from the TP.

 

So, in a nutshell, BAs are hit or miss with the TP and all phones < 50ohms will show some bass roll-off. The 32ohm ones less severe so than the 16ohm ones.

 

While all this may sound a bit disheartening, the TP's shortcomings may actually benefit some IEMs, like the overly bassy IE800, which turn into better balanced phones when driven from the TP.

post #4523 of 5600
Of course James...but works wonder with 1plus2 and se5...total crap with Miracles though.
post #4524 of 5600

We don't want to make this into another Tera thread (especially since most of them end up closed and people banned) - but since it does keep coming up here let me provide my perspective (as a strong Tera supporter, but I promise this will be my last mention of Tera in this thread).

To me the mindset one has to have to move to Tera "ways" is a not unlike deciding to move back from digital to vinyl.

You have to accept that your vinyl player will only play vinyls (Tera only wav's), not have playlists so you have to get you ass off the sofa and move the needle when you want to listen to another song (which you have to look up on the external album cover - although sd cards can be thought of as playlists if you want), and that you will not be able to use fancy network servers for easy access to your flacs, mp3's etc (all the things we are used to in the itunes world).

Also you will not have the same easy access to all the music you want - Tera will force you to look for well mastered and hires music as it really only truly shines playing well mastered and hires files, and with well matched phones. If you can't or don't want to deal with meeting those requirements then Tera makes no sense (even forgetting the high price as an argument although I disagree Charles raised the price out of greed as he is certainly selling less and making less profit at new price than before - instead I suspect he is either tired of making them, or wanted to make it clear that his device even without any features added is still head and shoulders above anything else that has been released recently - ie AK120 and HM901 which encroached into old Tera price so there could have been perception created that they must be better than Tera because more expensive - this is what I suspect was the reason he doubled the price to kill that as an argument as he is clearly convinced his device is the best - of course that sounds very arrogant and many people are annoyed by it, even some existing Tera users who happen to like the device - I personally happen to agree he is right about having the best device although I don't like the new high price - it will be more expensive to eventually replace my current Tera with the new one :wink_face:).

Anyway, for me Tera is the most amazing device I have every purchased over 30 or so years of buying fancy electronics/gadgets (expensive cameras, lenses, computers, music equipment, etc). I still cannot believe something this small that looks like a toy when paired with $40 Porta Pro phones can blow away pretty much any other high end system I have ever heard - it actually sounds better than vinyl to me).

post #4525 of 5600

funny, now back to 1p2? :tongue:

 

on a side note, i still did not hear any portable or IEM which could beat a proper high-end rig leave alone vinyl. this can be good, very good but... excuse me, forget it.

 

as regards pairing i fully trust Mimouille findings about 1p2 giving great synergy, both these and Terra receive high praise so why not?

post #4526 of 5600
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post
 

as regards pairing i fully trust Mimouille findings about 1p2 giving great synergy, both these and Terra receive high praise so why not?

I also trust Mimouille's findings regarding the synergy (so much that I spent around $3K on TP and 1P2 to prove it :etysmile:).

post #4527 of 5600
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Originally Posted by tgdinamo View Post
 

I also trust Mimouille's findings regarding the synergy (so much that I spent around $3K on TP and 1P2 to prove it :etysmile:).

:D

i am sure you not married, otherwise you would have a problem to explain to your wife who is Mimouille and where is 3K :tongue::jecklinsmile:

post #4528 of 5600
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post
 

:D

i am sure you not married, otherwise you would have a problem to explain to your wife who is Mimouille and where is 3K :tongue::jecklinsmile:


Actually I'm married and have kids - but since I'm the one working and making money for the family this question better never even come up (I need my toys and distractions from reality to maintain sanity - working on wall st for 20+ years can be profitable but also dangerous to anyone's health/sanity).

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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

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i am sure you not married, otherwise you would have a problem to explain to your wife who is Mimouille and where is 3K tongue.gifjecklinsmile.gif
In this sentence I sound like the mistress...not sure I like it wink.gif
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post


In this sentence I sound like the mistress...not sure I like it wink.gif

 

And for the record when I was talking about toys and distractions I was referring to head-fi gadgets and not mistresses :wink_face:

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