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post #3766 of 5603
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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

Yes, the EX1000's soundstage is impressive.

 

However, my post was in response to an IEM that resembles the HD800s a great deal. There are at least 6 people I know of who either own (like I do) the K3003s & HD800s, or who have have done a side-by-side comparison between both phones—people who have all commented on said very close sonic resemblance. I've also mentioned a couple of times that it's almost unbelievable that it is the K3003 (from AKG) that comes closest to the HD800s, and not Senn's very own flagship IEM, the $1,000 IE800.

 

Oh, my bad. I thought your response was to the soundstage question, since you highlighted that part in Bolardito's post.


Edited by james444 - 8/24/13 at 9:24am
post #3767 of 5603

That's alright, I can see why you posted what you did.

 

I did own, for a little while, both K3003 & EX1000 at the same time, both IEMs with impressive soundstages (my HD800s came long after I'd sold the Sonys). The K3003's have a much closer sound presentation and tonal balance to the HD800s, both having a very similar AND fuller out-of-head sound. The EX1000s, from memory, and compared directly to the AKGs, were thinner sounding, all frequencies having their distinct differences. Like the HD800s, the K3003s are a brilliant all-rounder, something the EX1000s were not (to these ears, that is).


Edited by music_4321 - 8/24/13 at 9:28am
post #3768 of 5603
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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

Yes, the EX1000's soundstage is impressive.

However, my post was in response to an IEM that resembles the HD800s a great deal. There are at least 6 people I know of who either own (like I do) the K3003s & HD800s, or who have have done a side-by-side comparison between both phones—people who have all commented on said very close sonic resemblance. I've also mentioned a couple of times that it's almost unbelievable that it is the K3003 (from AKG) that comes closest to the HD800s, and not Senn's very own flagship IEM, the $1,000 IE800.

It's odd. I've read people think the K3003 and 1p2 sound alike, and that the K3003 sounds like the HD800, but from my short session with the HD800, it doesn't sound like the 1p2 much at all, from memory. Stupid confusing transitive property.

Maybe I'll stop by a place that has the HD800 out for listening this week.

Also,
If anyone has the Xenogears OST in lossless, it sounds pretty darn spiffy on the 1p2.
post #3769 of 5603

It seems that, while they're indeed alike, the 1p2 may have a bit more treble and bass energy, making it a more "fun" sounding IEM and the K3003 closer to a so-called reference phone.

I believe Audiowood owns all 4 (1p2, K3003, TH900 & HD800) and, according to him, the 1p2s resemble more the TH900s sonically, while the K3003s resemble more the HD800s.

post #3770 of 5603
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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

It seems that, while they're indeed alike, the 1p2 may have a bit more treble and bass energy, making it a more "fun" sounding IEM and the K3003 closer to a so-called reference phone.


I believe Audiowood owns all 4 (1p2, K3003, TH900 & HD800) and, according to him, the 1p2s resemble more the TH900s sonically, while the K3003s resemble more the HD800s.

That sounds like it makes sense to me.

Back to the EX1000 topic biggrin.gif
It's not the size of the 1p2 soundstage that really impresses IMO, but the interesting way in which it utilizes it.
post #3771 of 5603
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Originally Posted by Bolardito View Post

There is no contest.. a flagship full size headphone well sourced and amped outclasses an IEM (at least the ones I have heasrd). But we are comparing an investment of 6k upwards ( I.e.Exymus DP1 dac + GSK MkII + balanced HD800) vs. one close to 2k (i.e. hi fi DAP + Hi fi IEM). And you cant carry your full size rig.

But I think hi fi IEMs are a class above over the ear portable phones like the Signature Pro...
Your comparison is heavily weighted in favor of the full-sized headphones, for the contest to be fair and meaningful they should both be using the same source and amp or at the very least of similar calibre.
post #3772 of 5603
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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

It seems that, while they're indeed alike, the 1p2 may have a bit more treble and bass energy, making it a more "fun" sounding IEM and the K3003 closer to a so-called reference phone.


I believe Audiowood owns all 4 (1p2, K3003, TH900 & HD800) and, according to him, the 1p2s resemble more the TH900s sonically, while the K3003s resemble more the HD800s.

Both LCFiner and Soundfreaq have mentioned that the 1P2 is more analogous to the TH900 as well. It's too bad I don't have the 1P2 anymore. Would have been interested in seein how the two stacked up myself

Edit: whelp, there's the mail carrier with my K3K biggrin.gif
Edited by Idsynchrono_24 - 8/24/13 at 10:26am
post #3773 of 5603
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Originally Posted by Idsynchrono_24 View Post


Edit: whelp, there's the mail carrier with my K3K biggrin.gif

Oh my. Do be careful, extra deadbolts, barred up windows. It'll only buy you time, but that might be enough. There's not much that can stop a horde of sexy women once they catch the scent of a K3003 upwind.
Edited by vwinter - 8/24/13 at 10:35am
post #3774 of 5603
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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

It seems that, while they're indeed alike, the 1p2 may have a bit more treble and bass energy, making it a more "fun" sounding IEM and the K3003 closer to a so-called reference phone.


I believe Audiowood owns all 4 (1p2, K3003, TH900 & HD800) and, according to him, the 1p2s resemble more the TH900s sonically, while the K3003s resemble more the HD800s.

+1, same impressions i had after quick audition of James' k3003
post #3775 of 5603
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Originally Posted by Idsynchrono_24 View Post

Both LCFiner and Soundfreaq have mentioned that the 1P2 is more analogous to the TH900 as well. It's too bad I don't have the 1P2 anymore. Would have been interested in seein how the two stacked up myself

Edit: whelp, there's the mail carrier with my K3K biggrin.gif

another +1 from me, i found 1p2 very analogue like sounding, with good source you cannot wish for more IMHO.
post #3776 of 5603
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

 

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Originally Posted by Idsynchrono_24 View Post


Both LCFiner and Soundfreaq have mentioned that the 1P2 is more analogous to the TH900 as well. It's too bad I don't have the 1P2 anymore. Would have been interested in seein how the two stacked up myself

Edit: whelp, there's the mail carrier with my K3K biggrin.gif

another +1 from me, i found 1p2 very analogue like sounding, with good source you cannot wish for more IMHO.

 

Definition of "analogous": Comparable in certain respects, typically in a way that makes clearer the nature of the things compared.

 

"Analogue" means something else.

 

  :)

 

(LCFiner sold his 1p2, seems he preferred the Senn IE800)


Edited by music_4321 - 8/24/13 at 1:16pm
post #3777 of 5603
Music, this why i say "analogue LIKE"... in sense of meaning i meant "natural" sound with good layering and black space... black space is dead black and creating enormous depth in 3D stage, this spacious stage is not artificially imposed but is real. this how i would describe it.
post #3778 of 5603
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

Music, this why i say "analogue LIKE"... in sense of meaning i meant "natural" sound with good layering and black space... black space is dead black and creating enormous depth in 3D stage, this spacious stage is not artificially imposed but is real. this how i would describe it.

 

Yes, I know you love your 1p2s to bits and have used the word "analogue" quite a few times to describe some of their qualities. However, idsynchrono was talking about something else (analogous not analogue).  ;)

post #3779 of 5603
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

Music, this why i say "analogue LIKE"... in sense of meaning i meant "natural" sound with good layering and black space... black space is dead black and creating enormous depth in 3D stage, this spacious stage is not artificially imposed but is real. this how i would describe it.

Amusingly, so far, I think it's artificially "analog," which I mean to say life-like in this case. The depth is really no better than other very good ones and width is less than others I have heard and it's not as black as others, but what it does immensely is layering and height. the 3D effect comes from the imaging that uses the layers and the height. I've never heard layering even remotely close to this.

The word analogue has had the "use" trimmed in American usage and has come to be used in reference to electronics, ie, the opposite of digital.
Edited by vwinter - 8/24/13 at 1:37pm
post #3780 of 5603
Music, thanks for correcting :-)

Vwinter, if we speak in core terms to my knowledge speakers or earphones cannot be analogue, sources can.... because analogue in this sense means Non-digital ;-)
Edited by Gintaras - 8/24/13 at 1:38pm
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