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post #3346 of 5633
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

flymetothemoon, you risk meeting my wallet late evening on your way home, beware wink_face.gif

 

seriously, Uber is on my wish list, but for later, i need a pause and right now i still think about upgrading my front end amp to pure triode which costs dearly but sounds dearly good as well.

Uber will come when i decide between AK120 or AK100-S Vinnie Mod + amp, perhaps late this year but not now, other spending plans kick me.

Gintaras,

 

I've auditioned both AK120 & 100 in separate occasions and found 120 is a much better DAP (un mod).  I'd opt for 120 if need to choose from one of them.  In addition, now the 120 offers the function of DSD and you may tap into another format and unwind its potentials.

 

Cheers

post #3347 of 5633

thanks, that's valuable opinion, you know i feel bias against AK120 because of its price but it seems more people love it... bloody iRiver, they know how to empty our pockets. mad.gif

post #3348 of 5633
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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

^   Never mind the recording and/or mastering quality of an album: If it ain't HiRes / DSD, it just ain't good enough. PCM, no matter what, is now officially lo-fi.

I do lose some of the goodness and emotion of a proper recording in Low or even standard Def but I don't put the forest fore the trees. It's about music. Lots of technically crappy recordings with a message as well. Shouldn't stop you from enjoying it. How good are Billie Holiday or Toscanini recordings. I'd hate to not have experienced them.  I also tend to use portables, well, portably so HiDef becomes less important in most environments.


Edited by goodvibes - 7/25/13 at 3:00am
post #3349 of 5633
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

thanks, that's valuable opinion, you know i feel bias against AK120 because of its price but it seems more people love it... bloody iRiver, they know how to empty our pockets. mad.gif

RWAK100 is the overpriced one. Japanese folks now selling their modded ak100 as "Ak100 B-spec" (FujiyaAVIC) with essentially the same bypass mod for just ~usd550. AK120 is more expensive but performs much better than the rwak. Been listening to some dff files and it sounded every bit as good as the hm901 and its top balanced amp board with the same track on 24bit flac. If only all my music is in dff then I won't need to big ugly 901 anymore.
post #3350 of 5633
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Originally Posted by kkcc View Post


RWAK100 is the overpriced one. Japanese folks now selling their modded ak100 as "Ak100 B-spec" (FujiyaAVIC) with essentially the same bypass mod for just ~usd550. AK120 is more expensive but performs much better than the rwak. Been listening to some dff files and it sounded every bit as good as the hm901 and its top balanced amp board with the same track on 24bit flac. If only all my music is in dff then I won't need to big ugly 901 anymore.

 

i know at least about one experience where a guy with the same setup as mine bought a AK120 and later sold it, he told me AK120 was great DAP but RWAK100 with T1 was not far behind and he could not justify a 1400$ DAP sounding only bit better. he sold AK120 (i could have bought this but decided against and later asked him, that was his story).

 

i do not doubt AK120 is a nice DAP and it must sound better than RWAK but the issue here is how much the premium you can justify by sound.

 

yes RWAK is expensive, perhaps because at the time this mod was the only available... so do not blame Vinnie for doing a great job and at the right time. i do not doubt Jap mod can be as good but i have RWAK already, so why bother with mods? i am more curious about S-mod and DAC upgrade mode on AK120 :-D

post #3351 of 5633
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Originally Posted by kkcc View Post


RWAK100 is the overpriced one. Japanese folks now selling their modded ak100 as "Ak100 B-spec" (FujiyaAVIC) with essentially the same bypass mod for just ~usd550. AK120 is more expensive but performs much better than the rwak. Been listening to some dff files and it sounded every bit as good as the hm901 and its top balanced amp board with the same track on 24bit flac. If only all my music is in dff then I won't need to big ugly 901 anymore.

I don't think it is ugly mate, it has an unique looking IMO. Different styles than AK series definitely.

post #3352 of 5633
my.thought is probably consistent with u guys. after auditioning dx100 and ak120.i ended up getting dx100. i went to audition with expectation of buying ak120. ak120 is no doubt good sounding dap but compared with dx100,its just lacking of some characteristics.
post #3353 of 5633
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Originally Posted by superjohny View Post

my.thought is probably consistent with u guys. after auditioning dx100 and ak120.i ended up getting dx100. i went to audition with expectation of buying ak120. ak120 is no doubt good sounding dap but compared with dx100,its just lacking of some characteristics.

 

here i would disagree, DX bulky and has poor battery run time, also some people complain about buggy GUI and i do not fancy android platform at all.

 

AK is not ideal DAP but it ticks most boxes on my list, it offers great sound, is pretty pocketable and light, GUI is nice too. as much as i wish for the sound i cannot compromise on durability/portability. besides sound is real good, i did not hear DX100 or H901 but i assume RWAK or AK120 would not be miles behind. and if i need truly magic sounding gear i will swap to my front end which easily beats any portable i heard to-date.

 

NB: DX and H901 size & weight, not mention GUI issues puts me off. i am waiting for smaller DX50 but it's not coming so my options are open ended here. i am also toying with an idea of adding a well sounding but cheaper priced VStudio3 which Lee and a few other well reputed headfiers hold in high esteem.


Edited by Gintaras - 7/25/13 at 6:33am
post #3354 of 5633

well, to me sound is probably everything cuz most of the time it will just sitting on my office desk playing music and on the way to office and home. and too me, it's not bulky at all. It only two things I wish it could improve is 

1 have something  like my JVC V80, karaoke playlist system. one can add any folder, songs to a reserve list at anytime and dap only plays this reserve list. so it's like realtime adding anything to the playlist.

 

2. to have a play/pause, next and previous button(which is obviously not possible...)

 

 

anyway, back to the topic, my 1plus2 +uber has arrived in Aus and processing. I hope I can receive it tmr so i can enjoy it!

post #3355 of 5633

superjohny, i agree, it's all about sound, still i would love to combine this with portability and when i need not this i add amp.

DX100 must be fine DAP but i very much love to see DX50 or would go for Japanese version of DX100 if sound is ultimate priority.

for what is worth RWAK with T1 amp sounds really good enough for me while i doubt DX100 will be matching my home system sound, so there is no point in taking DX100 because it will not deliver utlimate sound compared to what i am used to. still i find it (RWAK+T1) closer to what i like with 1+2 so i would not bother for 0.10% missing. of course i am a loser here because i still do not have Uber cable tongue.gif


Edited by Gintaras - 7/25/13 at 7:08am
post #3356 of 5633
Another Uber victim! Congratz Superjohny.....biggrin.gif
post #3357 of 5633
I prefer ak120 soundwise than dx100 overall. Even if in some areas like power and airiness the dx100 is better.
post #3358 of 5633
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

 

here i would disagree, DX bulky and has poor battery run time, also some people complain about buggy GUI and i do not fancy android platform at all.

 

AK is not ideal DAP but it ticks most boxes on my list, it offers great sound, is pretty pocketable and light, GUI is nice too. as much as i wish for the sound i cannot compromise on durability/portability. besides sound is real good, i did not hear DX100 or H901 but i assume RWAK or AK120 would not be miles behind. and if i need truly magic sounding gear i will swap to my front end which easily beats any portable i heard to-date.

 

NB: DX and H901 size & weight, not mention GUI issues puts me off. i am waiting for smaller DX50 but it's not coming so my options are open ended here. i am also toying with an idea of adding a well sounding but cheaper priced VStudio3 which Lee and a few other well reputed headfiers hold in high esteem.

Just to be clear, while I love the somewhat quirky Studio anv3, I thought the 901 a clear upgade on audition. I haven't bought one yet because it is big and I'm still hoping for something smaller and close in performance to become available at a more reasonable price. I sort of have that in the Studio but I wouldn't mind HiDef capability and a better UI. I wont go into Lee and my last PM discussion because you'd think we were crazy. LOL

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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

 

i know at least about one experience where a guy with the same setup as mine bought a AK120 and later sold it, he told me AK120 was great DAP but RWAK100 with T1 was not far behind and he could not justify a 1400$ DAP sounding only bit better. he sold AK120 (i could have bought this but decided against and later asked him, that was his story).

 

i do not doubt AK120 is a nice DAP and it must sound better than RWAK but the issue here is how much the premium you can justify by sound.

 

yes RWAK is expensive, perhaps because at the time this mod was the only available... so do not blame Vinnie for doing a great job and at the right time. i do not doubt Jap mod can be as good but i have RWAK already, so why bother with mods? i am more curious about S-mod and DAC upgrade mode on AK120 :-D



Well Gintaras I'm on the other side of the fence where I did not like the RWA AK100 sound at all pretty much. It's nothing like the AK120 for me. Even when I amped the RWA AK100 it still had issues with the treble and bass just not as bad. It had more space to allow the instruments to breath a bit more instead of being so congested (lacking dynamics). On the AK120 I feel its perfectly fine to be used unamped and even better when amped. So it's a plus either way for me. Note I only updated the RWA AK100 firmware 1 time so I'm not sure how much the sound could have changed from the newer updates. But just from what I heard it wasn't worth the money for me and my other DAP being less than half its costs was superior personally in sound quality and even build quality if you take durability into account.


Edited by lee730 - 7/25/13 at 2:22pm
post #3360 of 5633
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post

I prefer ak120 soundwise than dx100 overall. Even if in some areas like power and airiness the dx100 is better.

 

Hmm so your DX100 is airier than than the AK120? I wonder if its from one of the newer firmwares? I don't recall the DX100 being more airier than the AK120 and definitely not more airier than the Studio V. I found it to be quite spacious with good air but not a lot of air to it. It's more of a  thicker sound overall than actual airy (had more weight to the notes).

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