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I do not know why people expected the Miracle to be totally outclassed. It is one of the top ciems out there. The fact that some CIEMs are now 1.5 or 2k.does not make them necessarily better. At this level, preference is more important than performance. But in my opinion, it is hard tobgo wrong with the 1plus2. I like the Miracles about as much, but I prefer the 1plus2 in general to all others I have now, and they are top Iems.
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Waiting on Gavin actually. Already decided. Still, doesn't hurt to know redface.gif


Though if I'm honest, the 1Plus2 not exactly blowing the Miracles out of the water put a back burner frown.gif
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post

I do not know why people expected the Miracle to be totally outclassed. It is one of the top ciems out there. The fact that some CIEMs are now 1.5 or 2k.does not make them necessarily better. At this level, preference is more important than performance. But in my opinion, it is hard tobgo wrong with the 1plus2. I like the Miracles about as much, but I prefer the 1plus2 in general to all others I have now, and they are top Iems.

 

Maybe the universal demos at the stores don't give it enough justice.

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That is for sure as Miracles have a reputation for crappy demos. Plus to me the custom part goes a long way in the sq of the Miracles.
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Maybe the universal demos at the stores don't give it enough justice.
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I'm sure that's the case with all properly designed customs. That the 1+2 can be in the picture with top customs says a lot for them.

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1 plus 2 is still out of stock..

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Originally Posted by Audiowood View Post

1 plus 2 is still out of stock..

 

I feel you man. I placed my order with Musica Acoustics on the first week of February and they still haven't receive my order from Tralucent Audio yet. The latest word was that it should be ready by the end of this week but I am not going to keep my hopes high. I think I am just going to let it be for now.


Edited by ongyi - 4/1/13 at 1:12pm
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Maybe the universal demos at the stores don't give it enough justice.

From what i hear, no, they don't do them any justice... Maybe someday I'll get my own but for now I like my FitEars... And CIEM sights set to PRM this August smily_headphones1.gif
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Maybe the universal demos at the stores don't give it enough justice.


Yeah I heard UM Demo units are pretty atrocious. Strange though, you'd figure they make something like that a priority to get fixed as that will definitely impact sales and early impressions of their units for the worse.

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Yeah I heard UM Demo units are pretty atrocious. Strange though, you'd figure they make something like that a priority to get fixed as that will definitely impact sales and early impressions of their units for the worse.


I am also pretty sure that the difference between demo and custom is a question of the CIEM's sound signature and architecture. From my point of view, the custom improve immersion and soundstage. If these are the strong points of a ciem, than the demo is bound to be crappy... I am oversimplifying, but something in that taste...

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I am also pretty sure that the difference between demo and custom is a question of the CIEM's sound signature and architecture. From my point of view, the custom improve immersion and soundstage. If these are the strong points of a ciem, than the demo is bound to be crappy... I am oversimplifying, but something in that taste...

 

Getting a seal is obviously important and at least from the very few CIEMs vs universal demo equivalents I've tried, the CIEMs seem to add more bass than their universal demo equivalent. However aside from seal, I think the shell size/shape of the CIEM also makes a difference. I sold my Unique Melody SE530x8 and for the buyer who reshelled it had a different FR chart from mine.

 

This actually has lead me to wonder, the 1Plus2 originally was supposed to be offered in a universal and CIEM version however the CIEM never made it to the light of day. Was the difference in CIEM vs universal demo (and being able to maintain a consistent signature) the reason why the CIEM offering was removed as an option? I'd be curious on how a CIEM 1Plus2 would have sounded.

post #1901 of 5633
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At least from what I heard it is hard to tune them to the desired sound tralucent wanted on a consistant basis in Custom form. This could/would vary depending on each persons ear and in that wasn't a very viable option for them. I had really wanted to get a unit in Custom form as well but I have my doubts they'll do it. A big part of the issue stems from the units potentially lacking in cohesivness and altering the the sound signature from what they originally intended to get past the coherency issues....
 

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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post

That is for sure as Miracles have a reputation for crappy demos. Plus to me the custom part goes a long way in the sq of the Miracles.
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Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post

I'm sure that's the case with all properly designed customs. That the 1+2 can be in the picture with top customs says a lot for them.

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Originally Posted by VisceriousZERO View Post

From what i hear, no, they don't do them any justice... Maybe someday I'll get my own but for now I like my FitEars... And CIEM sights set to PRM this August smily_headphones1.gif
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post

Yeah I heard UM Demo units are pretty atrocious. Strange though, you'd figure they make something like that a priority to get fixed as that will definitely impact sales and early impressions of their units for the worse.

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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post

I am also pretty sure that the difference between demo and custom is a question of the CIEM's sound signature and architecture. From my point of view, the custom improve immersion and soundstage. If these are the strong points of a ciem, than the demo is bound to be crappy... I am oversimplifying, but something in that taste...

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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

Getting a seal is obviously important and at least from the very few CIEMs vs universal demo equivalents I've tried, the CIEMs seem to add more bass than their universal demo equivalent. However aside from seal, I think the shell size/shape of the CIEM also makes a difference. I sold my Unique Melody SE530x8 and for the buyer who reshelled it had a different FR chart from mine.

 

Just to add my 2c here (and sorry for being somewhat OT, since I don't have the 1plus2), I've been spending the whole Easter weekend going back and forth between UM Miracle demos, UM PP6 demos, UERM demos and my UERM full customs, until my ears were sore.

 

My conclusions in a nutshell (based on a perfect seal with all demo units):

 

- The Miracle demos are excellent and pretty much at eye level with the UERM.

- The PP6 demos, surprisingly, are overall slightly inferior to the Miracle demos (except for a smidgen better bass extension).

- My UERM full customs sound virtually identical to their demo equivalent, differences are very slight and insignificant.

 

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Ahh so do you feel the differences people are perceiving are in large due to placebo or just the tips not fitting properly?
 

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Just to add my 2c here (and sorry for being somewhat OT, since I don't have the 1plus2), I've been spending the whole Easter weekend going back and forth between UM Miracle demos, UM PP6 demos, UERM demos and my UERM full customs, until my ears were sore.

 

My conclusions in a nutshell (based on a perfect seal with all demo units):

 

- The Miracle demos are excellent and pretty much at eye level with the UERM.

- The PP6 demos, surprisingly, are overall slightly inferior to the Miracle demos (except for a smidgen better bass extension).

- My UERM full customs sound virtually identical to their demo equivalent, differences are very slight and insignificant.

 

You did have a bad experience with the pre FP jh13 demos which don't have a bass heavy consensus. When I tried those, they were fine but it could be an ear or DAP interfaces well. Or tips. I tried them with some very stiff foam that didn't extend in front of the tip. I don't think they show like that normally.

 

 That said, I actually agree with you and think you need to go by what you hear in a universal to choose your custom if audition is part of it. Even if it were the case under certain circumstances, the last thing I would assume is for it to not sound like what I heard.


Edited by goodvibes - 4/2/13 at 6:25am
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post

Ahh so do you feel the differences people are perceiving are in large due to placebo or just the tips not fitting properly?
 

We all know how significant a tip/nozzle can be but you'd hope the manufacturer would come up with something that better mimicked the end result. I suspect that they don't all get it right. You see lots of double flanges because they fit almost everyone and they will certainly have an effect. James' tips look well chosen.bigsmile_face.gifIt may help him that he has large canals as well.


Edited by goodvibes - 4/2/13 at 6:41am
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