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post #1771 of 5600

Not to disrupt all the talk about cables, but my review of the 1Plus2 is finally finished. Hopefully, those who've been waiting for it will find it interesting.

 

I can say these things with definite emphasis:

  • The 1Plus2 is an assertive earphone; it'll take the listener for a ride, much like Alice in Wonderland. It controls a narrative that is almost mystical.
  • It has a U-shaped response, but can be thought of almost as an "ideal" U-shaped response. The soundstage is deep and wide, and separation is superb.
  • Bass is the strongest selling point of the 1Plus2; it provides intense, visceral power that doesn't obfuscate details in the other parts of the audible spectrum. Sub-bass is the best I've heard in any IEM. Period.
  • I wish the mids were more forward in the presentation space, though I'm a little conflicted. The mids are not forward because the 1Plus2 is tuned that way to give off the "performance hall" feeling, but it lacks the intimacy of other 'traditional' IEMs. I also wished it were a little more laid-back. It's almost as though I have to spend all my time fixated on the music when the 1Plus2 is playing!

 

I'm still sorting out a version of the review suitable for the custom chronicles retrospective thread, and that'll be its final resting place on head-fi, but the current version is up on CYMBACAVUM. That post is also populated with pretty pictures and cartoon excerpts.

post #1772 of 5600
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Originally Posted by tomscy2000 View Post

Not to disrupt all the talk about cables, but my review of the 1Plus2 is finally finished. Hopefully, those who've been waiting for it will find it interesting.

 

I can say these things with definite emphasis:

  • The 1Plus2 is an assertive earphone; it'll take the listener for a ride, much like Alice in Wonderland. It controls a narrative that is almost mystical.
  • It has a U-shaped response, but can be thought of almost as an "ideal" U-shaped response. The soundstage is deep and wide, and separation is superb.
  • Bass is the strongest selling point of the 1Plus2; it provides intense, visceral power that doesn't obfuscate details in the other parts of the audible spectrum. Sub-bass is the best I've heard in any IEM. Period.
  • I wish the mids were more forward in the presentation space, though I'm a little conflicted. The mids are not forward because the 1Plus2 is tuned that way to give off the "performance hall" feeling, but it lacks the intimacy of other 'traditional' IEMs. I also wished it were a little more laid-back. It's almost as though I have to spend all my time fixated on the music when the 1Plus2 is playing!

 

I'm still sorting out a version of the review suitable for the custom chronicles retrospective thread, and that'll be its final resting place on head-fi, but the current version is up on CYMBACAVUM. That post is also populated with pretty pictures and cartoon excerpts.

 

An excellent read. Nice thorough review.

post #1773 of 5600
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Excellent review Tomscy :).
 

post #1774 of 5600
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Originally Posted by tomscy2000 View Post

Not to disrupt all the talk about cables, but my review of the 1Plus2 is finally finished. Hopefully, those who've been waiting for it will find it interesting.

 

I can say these things with definite emphasis:

  • The 1Plus2 is an assertive earphone; it'll take the listener for a ride, much like Alice in Wonderland. It controls a narrative that is almost mystical.
  • It has a U-shaped response, but can be thought of almost as an "ideal" U-shaped response. The soundstage is deep and wide, and separation is superb.
  • Bass is the strongest selling point of the 1Plus2; it provides intense, visceral power that doesn't obfuscate details in the other parts of the audible spectrum. Sub-bass is the best I've heard in any IEM. Period.
  • I wish the mids were more forward in the presentation space, though I'm a little conflicted. The mids are not forward because the 1Plus2 is tuned that way to give off the "performance hall" feeling, but it lacks the intimacy of other 'traditional' IEMs. I also wished it were a little more laid-back. It's almost as though I have to spend all my time fixated on the music when the 1Plus2 is playing!

 

I'm still sorting out a version of the review suitable for the custom chronicles retrospective thread, and that'll be its final resting place on head-fi, but the current version is up on CYMBACAVUM. That post is also populated with pretty pictures and cartoon excerpts.


Excellent review, one of the best I have read in a long time, balancing emotional and technical impressions. I'm getting mine Sunday and now I can't wait !

post #1775 of 5600
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post

Excellent review Tomscy smily_headphones1.gif.

 

I'm confused though re: bass and sub bass. Thought some others might be stronger lol
post #1776 of 5600
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I'm confused though re: bass and sub bass. Thought some others might be stronger lol


The sub bass is powerful IMO but extremely well controlled (tight and punchy). I don't find it to be overly bassy at all. I find my 8As to be more bassy as well as the older 1Plus2 model. Same applies to the 334. We all do hear things differently though :). Particularly when using the gold cable I found the mids to be my favorite aspect on this IEM.


Edited by lee730 - 3/1/13 at 1:22am
post #1777 of 5600
I should hopefully be wrapping up my thoughts on the revised 1+2 this weekend and passing it along to the next listener early next week.
post #1778 of 5600
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The sub bass is powerful IMO but extremely well controlled (tight and punchy). I don't find it to be overly bassy at all. I find my 8As to be more bassy as well as the older 1Plus2 model. Same applies to the 334. We all do hear things differently though smily_headphones1.gif. Particularly when using the gold cable I found the mids to be my favorite aspect on this IEM.

That's the thing though. Sub bass being the best was the phrase used. But it's qualified by what one has heard and how much one likes in their bass as well. I could be someone who hates bass and because a particular model reproduces it in a particular amount that I can tolerate and like, may not mean it suits someone else or that it is accurate or that it was how the producer meant it to sound. It's so subjective.

Just trying to figure out where people are coming from with their comments as well though. Like it's common knowledge I have IE8s so it can be inferred I like bass in general and therefore I may have different sonic preferences from someone else. So in that sense it would mean more to me if someone says the 1plus2s have very good bass and sub bass if that person had IE8s and liked bass in the first place contra someone who comes from using bass light earphones for example smily_headphones1.gif
post #1779 of 5600

Yes, it's all relative. :) Which is why I'm not going to quantify sound by itself, but draw comparisons to something like the LCD3.

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That's the thing though. Sub bass being the best was the phrase used. But it's qualified by what one has heard and how much one likes in their bass as well. I could be someone who hates bass and because a particular model reproduces it in a particular amount that I can tolerate and like, may not mean it suits someone else or that it is accurate or that it was how the producer meant it to sound. It's so subjective.

Just trying to figure out where people are coming from with their comments as well though. Like it's common knowledge I have IE8s so it can be inferred I like bass in general and therefore I may have different sonic preferences from someone else. So in that sense it would mean more to me if someone says the 1plus2s have very good bass and sub bass if that person had IE8s and liked bass in the first place contra someone who comes from using bass light earphones for example smily_headphones1.gif
post #1780 of 5600
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Originally Posted by Girls Generation View Post

Yes, it's all relative. :) Which is why I'm not going to quantify sound by itself, but draw comparisons to something like the LCD3.

 

'cept I don't have them either :(

 

Jealous though!

post #1781 of 5600

Well look what the cat brought in today !

 

 

 

I am having a hard time finding the right tips, but sound great so far. Will let you know more in a while.

post #1782 of 5600
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post

Well look what the cat brought in today !

 

 

 

I am having a hard time finding the right tips, but sound great so far. Will let you know more in a while.

 

Ortofon is recommended. Congratulations!

post #1783 of 5600
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post

Well look what the cat brought in today !


I am having a hard time finding the right tips, but sound great so far. Will let you know more in a while.

 


If you have big ears like me I highly recommend the large single flange V-moda bass tips. The orthofon tips don't give me anywhere near a seal :P. Plus I've been hearing some conflicting view points that those tips may cause a peak in the treble making them fatiguing/more fatiguing. What I find funny is with my JVC tips the bass on these does increase and to the point where it gets a tad bassy for my tastes. With the V-moda bass tips on the very tip of the IEM the bass is very punchy and in line with the mids and treble (more so neutral to my ears).  I'll provide a link below. I do recommend the clear ones though as I'm not sure if the black are of the same material (which will equal different fit and sound possibly).

 

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/10-V-Moda-Earphones-Replacement-EarBuds-Tips-Gels-Sleeves-Plugs-Cushions-Pads-/220853034652?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var&hash=item336bddde9c&_uhb=1#ht_1241wt_1178&clk_rvr_id=455494288792

 

If you want those JVC tips I have as well the link is below. These are the same tips I use to buy from amazon.com which are significantly more expensive. They are the black tips. If you visit his store he also has small and medium available. Personally the JVC tips worked best on the older 1Plus2.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-x-Compatible-JVC-Ear-Bud-Gel-Tips-Various-Colours-Size-Large-/230933679437?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item7b6de28ed4


Edited by lee730 - 3/3/13 at 5:40am
post #1784 of 5600
Bass is only impacted by seal and the ortofons do run smaller than other tips. They happen to fit me perfectly and are my favorite tip on the market. Sony hybrid comfort with a larger bore for more treble energy. I get no spikes with the ortofons but if one did, the thing to try is either a longer tip and/or a smaller bore tip. Length and bore size will impact treble presence and potentially shift any resonance peaks to a more pleasant area in the frequency response for said user.
post #1785 of 5600
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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post

Bass is only impacted by seal and the ortofons do run smaller than other tips. They happen to fit me perfectly and are my favorite tip on the market. Sony hybrid comfort with a larger bore for more treble energy. I get no spikes with the ortofons but if one did, the thing to try is either a longer tip and/or a smaller bore tip. Length and bore size will impact treble presence and potentially shift any resonance peaks to a more pleasant area in the frequency response for said user.


I disagree on bass only being impacted by seal. I've experienced otherwise from various tips. A good example is comply tips vs silicone although different silicone tips will impact the bass differently as well (at least I hear it this way). The large JVC tips and the V-moda bass tips are very similar in size but are of different material (slightly different in overall shape as well but very small differences). Thing is that all goes hand in hand to change even the bass characteristics. Fit wise I feel the seal is about the same on both tips for me.


Edited by lee730 - 3/3/13 at 6:03am
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