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post #1291 of 5600
Ci Zi Si Xi Ki.... They are annoying and keep hurting my ears.
I'll try out comply tips to see if that helps 1plus2 to reduce the sibilance.
Sometimes the sibilance is overpowering like a knife frown.gif
post #1292 of 5600
Lee, do you like the studio V + 1plus2 combo?
I really want a easy rig that is pleasant to listen to without hassling siblibance.
post #1293 of 5600

Try a silicon tip with a narrow bore as well. You may need to stretch it over the nozzle.

post #1294 of 5600
Does he like it...?!?...seriously that's all he has been going on about since he received his rwak100... :-p

FWIW, i personally think the rwak100 is fantastic with the 1+2, although I've not heard the dx100, teraplayer, or studio v...
Edited by toads - 1/18/13 at 12:21pm
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No but it is heading to me next week. I should have it within my hands in two weeks

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Does that mean you got the demo unit in yet?

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Originally Posted by xinghui0711 View Post

Lee, do you like the studio V + 1plus2 combo?
I really want a easy rig that is pleasant to listen to without hassling sibilance.


I really do xinghui lol. I'm surprised you are having sibilance issues because I'm not having issues with that. At times though if it's in the track naturally the 1Plus2 is gonna portray it but it's in such a smooth way to my ears that it is never an issue. Then again I'm much more sensitive to treble spikes than sibilance. But I've played Celine Dion's "I'm You're Lady" and the 1Plus2 handled it like a champ. I figure if the IEM can pass that song with flying colors without the vocals becoming overbearing then its superb lol. Most other IEMs tend to have some form of issue or another on that track.  But in honesty it's a part of the track. The bizoch is shouty ;).

 

@the toad ;).... I'm actually enjoying the AK100 as well just I'm not sure if I can justify keeping it or not. It's toying with me lol :P. Honestly speaking both of these player excel at lower volume listening. Both have their merits but overall the Studio V takes the cake for detail and imaging with the 1Plus2s. But with the RWA AK100s very black background it is also superb at low volume listening (particularly with the mirco-detailing. I find raising its volume to shows its weakness. More so in the middle area (like around volume 33 or so). Then it has this sort of veil or lack of dynamics to its sound (bass also seems to be a bit bloated). Seems the micro details get overshadowed as well at higher volumes.... Where I am then tempted to raise the volume up even more because I am not satisfied with that said volume. Strange how that works.... I've also notice some of the owners are listening at dangerous volumes at that..... Indeed at even higher volumes it does come to life but I can't justify damaging my hearing for that (40+ volume).


Edited by lee730 - 1/18/13 at 3:14pm
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I really do xinghui lol. I'm surprised you are having sibilance issues because I'm not having issues with that. At times though if its in the track naturally the 1Plus2 is gonna portray it but its in such a smooth way to my ears that it is never an issue. Then again I'm much more sensitive to treble spikes than sibilance. But I've played Celine Dion's "I'm You're Lady" and the 1Plus2 handled it like a champ. I figure if the IEM can pass that song with flying colors without the vocals becoming overbearing then its superb lol. Most other IEMs tend to have some form of issue or another on that track.  But in honesty its a part of the track. The bizoch is shouty ;).

 

@the toad ;).... I'm actually enjoying the AK100 as well just I'm not sure if I can justify keeping it or not. It's toying with me lol :P. Honestly speaking both of these player excel at lower volume listening. Both have their merits but overall the Studio V takes the cake for detail and imaging with the 1Plus2s. But with the RWA AK100s very black background it is also superb at low volume listening. I find raising its volume to shows its weakness. More so in the middle area (like around volume 33 or so). Then it has this sort of veil or lack of dynamics to its sound. Seems the micro details get overshadowed as well at higher volumes.... Where I am then tempted to raise the volume up even more because I am not satisfied with that said volume. Strange how that works.... I've also notice some of the owners are listening at dangerous volumes a that..... Indeed at even higher volumes it does come to life but I can't justify damaging my hearing for that (40+ volume).

After I swiped the op-amp of my uha-6s.mkii, the sibilance is reduced somehow. At least it is not aggressive anymore.

I'm hesitated on purchasing Studio V due to its relatively noticeable hiss with IEMs. 

My 1+2 is about to reach 100+hours. I'm satisfied of its dynamic,airy, and vivid sounding.

Sound quality wise, 1+2 overkills those cheap IEMs. Price wise, cheap earbud crushes 1+2. Am I correct? tongue.gif

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After I swiped the op-amp of my uha-6s.mkii, the sibilance is reduced somehow. At least it is not aggressive anymore.

I'm hesitated on purchasing Studio V due to its relatively noticeable hiss with IEMs. 

My 1+2 is about to reach 100+hours. I'm satisfied of its dynamic,airy, and vivid sounding.

Sound quality wise, 1+2 overkills those cheap IEMs. Price wise, cheap earbud crushes 1+2. Am I correct? tongue.gif


lol well even in terms of value I honestly feel the pricing is fair for what you get in terms of sound quality and build. I'd go even as far as to say I think the 1Plus2s are a great value at their current price range. I could honestly see them selling for quite a bit more in reality.... But thankfully that is not the case :). If anything it adds some serious competition to the market in its price range and that can only help the consumers out in the end which I feel is great in terms of money to performance ratio.


Edited by lee730 - 1/18/13 at 3:26pm
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lol well even in terms of value I honestly feel the pricing is fair for what you get in terms of sound quality and build. I'd go even as far as to say I think the 1Plus2s are a great value at their current price range. I could honestly see them selling for quite a bit more in reality.... But thankfully that is not the case :). If anything it adds some serious competition to the market in its price range and that can only help the consumers out in the end which I feel is great in terms of money to performance ratio.

Competition = smile on consumer's face bigsmile_face.gif

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Competition = smile on consumer's face bigsmile_face.gif


Yep. Although it may not be that way for the manufacturers lol :P. Not saying that all manufacturers are out to get you. But it is a dog-eat-dog world. evil_smiley.gif


Edited by lee730 - 1/18/13 at 3:45pm
post #1301 of 5600
Lol...@ 40 being a volume where hearing maybe damaged...I don't even go below 40 on my 26ohm 1+2...!!! Lee, have you measured dB at 40+...? How do know these are "dangerous" volumes...? Any objective measurements..?
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 I think the 1Plus2s are a great value at their current price range. I could honestly see them selling for quite a bit more in reality.... But thankfully that is not the case :). If anything it adds some serious competition to the market in its price range and that can only help the consumers out in the end which I feel is great in terms of money to performance ratio.

 

You're kidding....right confused.gif  I sure hope so.....

 

No?  Then how is $1275 a "great value"? The 1plus2 is firmly in the very upper end of IEM's...with the AKG 3003 and the FitEar 334. So, how does it "add some serious competition to the market" and "help the (value conscious) consumer"???

 

It would be a fair statement if it was significantly LE$$ than the top tier but unfortunately it is not...frown.gif

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You'd have to listen to them to really judge the value of something.

 

Now you're only thinking in terms of the price at hand. However, you must consider the fact that because such an IEM that is competing with their products, these other companies will have to try even harder to put out a product with higher performance and lower pricing to gain sales. Do you see now how it would 'help' the consumers?

 

Furthermore, even if the price is high-tiered, compared to the other similarly-priced IEMs, the 1Plus2 performs better in many aspects. I can say first hand that it blows away the AKG 3003i, and not only in the sound aspect but in many others as well. I think the others can comment on the 334, but from the comparisons I've been reading it seems my conclusion is indeed true.

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You're kidding....right confused.gif  I sure hope so.....

 

No?  Then how is $1275 a "great value"? The 1plus2 is firmly in the very upper end of IEM's...with the AKG 3003 and the FitEar 334. So, how does it "add some serious competition to the market" and "help the (value conscious) consumer"???

 

It would be a fair statement if it was significantly LE$$ than the top tier but unfortunately it is not...frown.gif


Edited by Girls Generation - 1/18/13 at 7:01pm
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Originally Posted by xinghui0711 View Post

Lee, do you like the studio V + 1plus2 combo?
I really want a easy rig that is pleasant to listen to without hassling siblibance.

 

XingHui, at least with my RWAK100 + 1Plus2 (Silver) setup, between 50 hrs -> 150 hrs of burn-in, I found the silver cables to be sibilant for some (and unfortunately most) of the tracks (or genre) I listened to. After 150 hrs, it started to tone down a little and my ears were getting accustom too to the sibilance. Now around 235 hrs, the harshness seems to have smooth out that it's not so painful. I'd personally classify this as borderline close to harshness and I think this is what it means when other 1Plus2 owners say that it's now "sensitive to track mastering/recording".

 

Personally for me, I'd like a little more buffer rather than right on the borderline frontier. I'm thinking of asking Tralucent for trying the silver/gold cable instead for that buffer.

 

I've talked to Tralucent all about this already and appreciate their patience throughout that 50-150 hrs (that's about 4 days of serious e-mail exchanges - and I can tell you whilst I wasn't rude about it, I didn't mince my words either) - they were courteous the whole way.

 

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You'd have to listen to them to really judge the value of something.

 

Now you're only thinking in terms of the price at hand. However, you must consider the fact that because such an IEM that is competing with their products, these other companies will have to try even harder to put out a product with higher performance and lower pricing to gain sales. Do you see now how it would 'help' the consumers?

 

Furthermore, even if the price is high-tiered, compared to the other similarly-priced IEMs, the 1Plus2 performs better in many aspects. I can say first hand that it blows away the AKG 3003i, and not only in the sound aspect but in many others as well. I think the others can comment on the 334, but from the comparisons I've been reading it seems my conclusion is indeed true.

 

At this price point, in addition to listening to the product, as GG rightfully said, I think one should also revisit what "great value" means to them personally. As I've written previously, I personally valued my investment in buying something (beyond a certain price such as the 1Plus2) to be an investment not only just the product but in the business itself. After a certain amount that I've personally set, it's beyond "play money" of my savings but more a investment commitment. So what is your philosophy and where is your threshold?

 

Discarding the price, and discarding the future prospects of the company and solely looking at the product itself, I did sell my TG!334 and bought the 1Plus2. However that was more a shift in investment rather than a declaration that the 1Plus2 is sonically superior to the TG!334. Their signatures are more complimentary in my personal opinion. As such I do miss my TG!334s too. Some kinds of genre, I like the 1Plus2 better, other kinds of tracks I prefer the TG!334-type signature.

 

I'm still re-assessing the 1Plus2 and would like to hear other IEMs but as of right now (not hearing some of the other IEMs), I'm thinking that possibly on settling with the 1Plus2 and MH335DW.

 

P.S. Side notes aside from me listening to the 1Plus2, in no particular order :-

- my wife has listened to the 1Plus2 but not as often as me. Every 2-3 days for her. She agreed with the sibilance during that 50-150 hr burn-in, and she also agreed on the toning down at the 235 hr mark

- one friend had a listen to my 1Plus2 and absolutely loved the signature as it was right up his alley (around 210 hr mark)

- another friend had a listen to it yesterday (230 hr mark) and felt although it sounded nice, it didn't "wow" him.

 

In short, as we've all always known, there is no IEM that will be a 100% to all audiophiles. You just have to try yourself, and evaluate your investment principles.

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You'd have to listen to them to really judge the value of something.

 

 

@Lee730 and now Girls Gen...lol

 

So, are you(all) implying that just because they (supposedly) sound better than their competition they are a better value??? That doesn't make sense.

 

Since the 1plus2's are priced in the same (high) tier as their competition they cannot be a "great value", even if they are THE best. If they were a "great value" they would be the best IEM at a price significantly LESS than the competition NOT the same price.

 

BTW - I would love to listen to the 1plus2...and have asked Gavin about getting a listen, if possible...smile.gif

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