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Originally Posted by maguire View Post

Oh I see, thanks for clearing that up. I will order the tips then, hopefully they will come in time.

I settled on these, not because of fit, mainly because the sound suited me. They allow a deeper insertion other than the Heir tips provided in the tour kit (which I do use on other IEMs). If you have Sony Hybrids with you try those as they're similar. If not, and you take a large size tip I can send you an unused pair in an envelope.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Silicone-Replacement-Tips-Earbud-For-sony-XBA-10-20-30-40ip-MDR-EX1000-600-/261202811168?pt=US_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item3cd0e69920
Edited by H20Fidelity - 8/25/13 at 1:18am
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I can send some if you need Maguire. 

I also have those "Heir" tips. 

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boys, are not we all friends? wink_face.gif

 

Vwinter, excuse me but analogue can be only source, check out please music and stage gear. speakers just convey the sound, so if you plug digital in do you think you getting analogue sound? tongue.gif

 

Lee, i must agree with music about k3003, a very capable IEM and a very refined one. actually to me k3003 sounded like a polite version of 1p2, k3003 had more smooth yet detailed trebles, bass and more fluid mids... what k3003 lost was bite, attack and a bit less height in stage. surprisingly they sounded pretty similar to my ear but still i found PRAT better on 1p2 and i love ramble which 1p2 brings. this is why i called k3003 a polite version of 1p2. and TO EACH HIS OWN, i bought 1p2 and James444 loved his k3003. i cannot see anything wrong about people picking one of these.

 

one comment about 1p2 stage, chaps when one my friend listened to my front end he commented that he never before heard a 1m tall loudspeaker bringing such a big height to stage that makes ceilings in the room disappear..... now 1p2 does similar trick, flute and horns sounds are literally flying above your head and disappear in the sky, 1p2 has the best 3D stage and the major impact you have is depth and height, you also have great stereo effect but i doubt it would make more sense put a wider stereo image which can lead to losing control of the stage... my RDB+v1 has one of the widest stereo stage sensation (wider than k3003 or 1p2 or you name it) but v1 loses tremendously in 3D and sound height remains very shallow too... result is washy stage and unstable stereo images.


Edited by Gintaras - 8/25/13 at 2:26am
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To answer your first question. Hell no! ;).

 

I have to agree with you on the wide stereo imaging of the RBD. Well coming from the original 1Plus2 it had the widest sound staging I had heard in terms of imaging from the left to right. But as you said due to this emphasis it did make things sound off balanced compared to the new 1Plus2s very 3D sound staging. A negative of such wide staging is there isn't much depth to the sound and its narrow or confined.

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let me speak in support of Lee who points to some important things like out of head stage and inside head stage... i call it stage and images accuracy and stability. what do i mean?

 

stage accuracy will be the placement of instruments in velvet black space, so you literally can see the stage if you close your eyes. stage stability is more tricky sensation, this is when you avoid instruments changing stage position in the process. it means stage is believable and natural... if you note that violins went a bit back then something wrong with stage portrayal.

 

why i say this? when the earphone has too wide stage you most likely will lose this stability, you may love huge stage until the moment when you note incoherence in stage.

 

this is why Lee spoke about in-your-head stage and out of your head stage. and striking a very delicate balance between these two is a piece of art which 1P2 achieves with glory.

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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post

To answer your first question. Hell no! ;).

 

I have to agree with you on the wide stereo imaging of the RBD. Well coming from the original 1Plus2 it had the widest sound staging I had heard in terms of imaging from the left to right. But as you said due to this emphasis it did make things sound off balanced compared to the new 1Plus2s very 3D sound staging. A negative of such wide staging is there isn't much depth to the sound and its narrow or confined.

 

Lee there was no disagreement mate, HELL NO o2smile.gif

absolutely correct about stage, like i wrote about this too someone may love wide stereo images only till the moment when he or she places favorite recording and notes that violins are running back and forth on the stage eek.gif

 

this is why i believe Gavin paid so much attention to stage and achieved something unparallel here. this is why 1p2 gives me loudspeaker sensation and throws one of the best stage sensation heard from an IEM. 

 

however, all this happens in our heads boys... in our heads... tongue.gif

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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

 

Lee there was no disagreement mate, HELL NO o2smile.gif

absolutely correct about stage, like i wrote about this too someone may love wide stereo images only till the moment when he or she places favorite recording and notes that violins are running back and forth on the stage eek.gif

 

this is why i believe Gavin paid so much attention to stage and achieved something unparallel here. this is why 1p2 gives me loudspeaker sensation and throws one of the best stage sensation heard from an IEM. 

 

however, all this happens in our heads boys... in our heads... tongue.gif

 

lol I was responding to this :P.

 

"boys, are not we all friends? wink_face.gif"

 

Of course it all happens "in our heads" but the point is it fools us which is what we want right? ;).


Edited by lee730 - 8/25/13 at 2:45am
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post

 

lol I was responding to this :P.

 

"boys, are not we all friends? wink_face.gif

 

i noticed, LoL biggrin.gif

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Thanks guys, if you can send then it will guarantee I get them in time.......etysmile.gif

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I read here and there "... the new 1plus2..." !   Are there 2 versions/generations of the 1plus2 ?  When did the change occured ? What is new ? 

 

thanks

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Bmichels, do not worry, the old version was exchanged for new so you have zero chance getting the old version. Those familiar with both versions say the updated sounds better. So stop your worries :-)

as for source and pairing i believe you better ask Gavin, he can tell you more since he has all fancy gear and knows how it sounds with 1p2.
Edited by Gintaras - 8/25/13 at 12:49pm
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Hi all!

 

just want to ask everybody how do you fight with sibiliance? I tried 1plus2 on the different setups and everywhere I found them superfluous. I know that incredible scene, which tralucent has, its just because of perfect highs. But my last headphones was W4, so i'd prefer darker signature for the begining.

 

sorry for my english, I will be happy if somebody just understands me :-}

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Originally Posted by Sibiriak View Post

Hi all!

 

just want to ask everybody how do you fight with sibiliance? I tried 1plus2 on the different setups and everywhere I found them superfluous. I know that incredible scene, which tralucent has, its just because of perfect highs. But my last headphones was W4, so i'd prefer darker signature for the begining.

 

sorry for my english, I will be happy if somebody just understands me :-}

 

Maybe the Tera Player would smooth it out for you? Otherwise consider a dark IEM. Would you be willing to go down the CIEM route? Maybe the Fit Ear 334 would be more to your liking. The 5.0 and Heir 8A are also on the darker side. Not sure how dark you want to go though :P. Keep in mind the 334 is still quite upfront  and I'm not sure if that will fatigue you as well.


Edited by lee730 - 8/26/13 at 4:43am
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Originally Posted by Sibiriak View Post

Hi all!

just want to ask everybody how do you fight with sibiliance? I tried 1plus2 on the different setups and everywhere I found them superfluous
. I know that incredible scene, which tralucent has, its just because of perfect highs. But my last headphones was W4, so i'd prefer darker signature for the begining.

sorry for my english, I will be happy if somebody just understands me :-}

Lol I won't "fight" to get IEMs to sound good. I would just pass (or sell if I bought without demo) if it doesn't works for me. I get what you mean but if you find 1plus2 too bright it woud be best to stay with darker and very laid back model like the w4 which is also very good in its range.
Edited by kkcc - 8/26/13 at 4:23am
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Originally Posted by Sibiriak View Post

Hi all!

 

just want to ask everybody how do you fight with sibiliance? I tried 1plus2 on the different setups and everywhere I found them superfluous. I know that incredible scene, which tralucent has, its just because of perfect highs. But my last headphones was W4, so i'd prefer darker signature for the begining.

 

sorry for my english, I will be happy if somebody just understands me :-}

 

i did not find 1p2 too sibiliant for myself, it will depend which music material you listening.

 

alternatively you may want to consider AKG k3003 which is closer to 1p2 in sound but is less aggressive, i prefer 1p2 way of rendering music but for you k3003 can cut it. i call k3003 a polite version of 1p2. 1p2 does stage and instrument separation a bit better for my liking but k3003 is very good IEM worth considering.

 

i also liked ASG2 which is all different and perhaps will be closer to FitEar 334 (which i did not hear but some owners of 334 told me so) at half the price. i found ASG2 pretty dark but not overly warm, it has more closed and in your face stage but it puts superb mids and vocals are to die for. you will feel like dancing with a singer. the only limitation is ASG2 does not sound best with complex jazz or symphonies. so if you like orchestral classics and complex jazz works then look elsewhere.

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