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post #76 of 81
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Originally Posted by shinndigg View Post

If its the best for tis price, the LD MKIV would likely be squarely in my price range come Christmas. Should I order it early? It looks like the kind of thing that would become hard to find around the holidays. 

 

I'll let someone else chime in here as well - as so far my only experience with Tubes has been the MKIV  - and before that a portable hybrid (Portatube) - which I really loved and initially got me looking for a full sized tube amp.

 

What I can say is that IMO the MKIV is very powerful, very clean background, and with the right tubes sounds quite linear to me - but still has enough euphonic mid-range to really complement both the K701and Beyer.  Mind you - unlike some who really want a wire with gain scenario, I prefer a little warmth and body to both the Beyer and AKG - while still retaining their strengths (linearity, clarity, sound stage etc).  The LD is built well - and to me sounds really good.  For it's price point, it should at least be a contender.

 

Will be interested to hear other recommendations.

post #77 of 81
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Originally Posted by NimbleTurtle View PostIMO, it's one thing to suggest that an amp needs enough voltage/ current to drive the diaphragm efficiently. But it's another thing to suggest that without a certain synergy/ amp, a headphone will not sound great. If it comes down to that scenario, you're just better off getting another headphone.
 

 

It really seems like the OP has under-amped the 598 and is happy with the sound signature of this, but underamping the any of the AKG high-end cans (K701/Q701/K702 results in a thin, lifeless sound. This is precisely why a desktop amp like the HeadRoom Desktop or Musical Fidelity M1 HPA, which delivers sufficient voltage/current to allow the diaphragm to do it's thing. Even the headphone output stage of a 1970's integrated amp would be better than the E9 the OP is using here.

post #78 of 81
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Originally Posted by Monkee View Post

 

It really seems like the OP has under-amped the 598 and is happy with the sound signature of this, but underamping the any of the AKG high-end cans (K701/Q701/K702 results in a thin, lifeless sound. This is precisely why a desktop amp like the HeadRoom Desktop or Musical Fidelity M1 HPA, which delivers sufficient voltage/current to allow the diaphragm to do it's thing. Even the headphone output stage of a 1970's integrated amp would be better than the E9 the OP is using here.


Underamping the 598 with the E9? I think this would be impossible. Even the E9 is enough for the Q701. Now it sounds a tad thinner than using a better amp, but it's still quite good.

The 598 to me even sounds good straight from a Sansa Clip+

 

I do think that the Q701 needs proper amp/dac synergy to be at it's best. I wish it didn't. Now it can still sound good of course.. If all gear was always perfectly neutral (and actually sound that way), then this would be no problem.

 

My guess was just that he's too used to the 598 sound and may prefer that.

post #79 of 81
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Yea, the 598 doesn't even need an amp. Of course it sounds a bit more full with one but its fine alone.

Would the Q701 sound better plugged into a Denon A/V receiver?
post #80 of 81
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Originally Posted by shinndigg View Post

Yea, the 598 doesn't even need an amp. Of course it sounds a bit more full with one but its fine alone.
Would the Q701 sound better plugged into a Denon A/V receiver?


I would give it a try, but some of the technical guys here will cry about it. Obviously only if you already have one! Don't go out and buy one just for the Q701! Unless it's from a thrift store!

I tried my Q701 out of my Technics receiver (330ohm impedance output!!) and it sounded just like it should. Don't ask me how!

My KRK KNS-8400...sounded like everything was coming from inside a cave. biggrin.gif It obviously messed with it's signature WAAAAY too much. Don't ask me how, but it sounded smoother, but had very little treble.


Edited by tdockweiler - 8/21/12 at 12:15pm
post #81 of 81

*got lazy and skipped the last 4 pages*

a modded HD558 sounds exactly like a HD598 but a little cloudier
the black looks better than the light tan which is a little hard to get used to
not sure if the slight but noticible lack of clarity would be a deal breaker though

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