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post #676 of 2024
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Originally Posted by Fegefeuer View Post

I received mine today and I am quite pleased. I knew about the Signature Pro as I listened to it extensively months ago and it became my favorite Ultrasone headphone, especially since it "stopped" with those annoying highs like on the Pro 900 and many other models. 

 

Maybe I am not bassheady enough but I wonder why you would eq the bass even more (during my own eq test the Signature DJ withstood any distortion, they are really built to kill - impressive) as there's plenty of it and in very good quality as in not bleeding over anything or melting over. It's like it's own layered structure. I think someone here got annoyed with everything being too smooth for him and I suspect the bass creating that impression as it's rather subwoofer like (don't confuse with bleeding, bloated or farty)

 

Having a HD 800 as well I notice that there's still a league between them as the HD 800 just has more details and layers and the better soundstage. Comparisons are hard though between open/closed and signatures. All I can say is that it makes metal music more enjoyable (I listen a lot metal and most recordings are rather "mediocre") than the Sennheisers and for EDM there's no contest. Those two complement each other very well.

You might really enjoy the Vocal presentation with them as well. That was my favorite surprise with the DJ's. They have outstanding vocal presentation. Perfectly placed and soooo realistic to me. Sounded like the microphone was directly connected to my headphones. smile.gif

post #677 of 2024

This is true. And those who love their Pro 900 will see a CLEAR immense upgrade. You will abandon those metallic mids, piercing highs, have a bigger soundstage and a technically better bass. 

post #678 of 2024

Subscribed, seriously considering these.

 

Only thing is, don't have a lot of money for an amp. Would love something like the verza, or maybe ibasso mamba, but it would be out of the question right now.

 

Any recommendations on affordable, portable dac/amp combo for sig dj?

 

Portable mp3 player is motorola atrix 2, just in case.

post #679 of 2024
Btw, they definitely sound more natural than their more expensive sibling the edition 8 which to me sound digitalish.
post #680 of 2024
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Originally Posted by erod View Post

Subscribed, seriously considering these.

 

Only thing is, don't have a lot of money for an amp. Would love something like the verza, or maybe ibasso mamba, but it would be out of the question right now.

 

Any recommendations on affordable, portable dac/amp combo for sig dj?

 

Portable mp3 player is motorola atrix 2, just in case.


JDS Labs C5?

post #681 of 2024

Interesting... as of now, these don't sound as BASSY as I EXPECTED (compared to Sig Pros...)

But, just an initial thought, I don't have my Sig Pros by my side at this moment.

post #682 of 2024
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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post

Interesting... as of now, these don't sound as BASSY as I EXPECTED (compared to Sig Pros...)

But, just an initial thought, I don't have my Sig Pros by my side at this moment.


They are definitely bassier than the Sig Pro which already has a healthy amount of bass.  Any more bass and I think they would be "gimmicky" basshead headphones like the Sony XB series.

post #683 of 2024
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post


They are definitely bassier than the Sig Pro which already has a healthy amount of bass.  Any more bass and I think they would be "gimmicky" basshead headphones like the Sony XB series.

 

Yeah I know... I actually categorize the Sig Pros as bassy, but will wait a few when I have both side by side. Probably take out the Yamaha Pro 500s again from their box and maybe even the M-Audio Q40s just for the heck of it...

post #684 of 2024

JDS Labs C5 looks great, but is there anything in that price range that is also a dac?

post #685 of 2024

I'm intrigued by these...and I'm no basshead (though I have to admit I do like getting that bass slam when the recording calls for it).  Here in the States, I can only find them available for ~$1,000USD....at $700 I'd just take a shot & get them, but that extra $$ is making me hesitate.  It's unlikely I'll get to hear them anytime soon.

post #686 of 2024
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post


They are definitely bassier than the Sig Pro which already has a healthy amount of bass.  Any more bass and I think they would be "gimmicky" basshead headphones like the Sony XB series.

Agreed. I've tried EQing them up and I always turn it off. They are just about right from the factory in my opinion. 

post #687 of 2024
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Originally Posted by feverfive View Post

I'm intrigued by these...and I'm no basshead (though I have to admit I do like getting that bass slam when the recording calls for it).  Here in the States, I can only find them available for ~$1,000USD....at $700 I'd just take a shot & get them, but that extra $$ is making me hesitate.  It's unlikely I'll get to hear them anytime soon.


IMO, they are worth the price of audio perfection and I believe B&H Photo accepts 30 day returns.

post #688 of 2024
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Originally Posted by erod View Post

JDS Labs C5 looks great, but is there anything in that price range that is also a dac?


Not in the same price range, but the pairing of my Sig DJ with V-Moda Verza is astounding.  It is also DAC with both USB and optical out.  I am only using portably at present and have an audiophile rig that fits in my pocket.  Verza was designed with the voicing of the M-100 in mind and the Sig DJ has similar voicing to the M-100 IMO, so Verza is almost a perfectly tailored amp/DAC for the Sig DJ.  It has more than enough power to drive them to the highest levels and the bass boost is a nice option, even if rarely needed.


Edited by Craigster75 - 3/25/13 at 8:04pm
post #689 of 2024

FINALLY!

I actually had a bit of time to sit down at home and at least compare these two lovely headphones side by side.

 

First of all, this will not be a review, just a couple of impressions/comparison which will probably be edited a few times 

as I envision giving more ear time to the Sig DJs. But first a couple of pics:

 

 

 

As you can see, the pads sure look different and they actually FEEL different. Not sure if it is because my Sig Pros are heavily used as

they are supossed to be the same material... not sure, need to investigate. (Ignore that SPIDER case in the background, if you are reading this 

then DEFINITELY you don't want anything to do with those "headphone monitors" on the background! LOL!)

 

 

Another angle for the pads... man, I can't wait to buy new pads for the Sig Pros... (if I don't sell the first... YIKES! ;-))

 

 

These were driven via NuForce Icon HDP + Lehman BCL.

 

 

Anyway, lets get to the meat of it.

If you have followed my other comparisons in other threads (such as the Mad Dogs, Denon D600s, etc.etc.) then you already know that

the Signature Pros are one of my current favorites. I believe their warm tilt, present bass, not so treble-happy presentation and

ability to be detailed has made me fall in love with Ultrasone and I find it suitable for most, if not all, the genres I listen to.

So it definitely gets a lot of usage at work where I spend all or most of my music listening time. 

The Mad Dogs are actually quite similar to the sound signature of the SIg Pros, but with less bass slam, more forward mids and nice sounding highs.

They are more comfortable too so that's why I alternate between these.

 

Now enter the Sig DJs. When I first saw the pics I knew I wanted them... but I waited... a lot! Basically my "fear" was actually having a less detailed

Sig Pro with HUGE AMOUNT of bass and nothing else, so I was kind of afraid of spending 1k because of this... well, I can say that my fears were unfounded...

 

The Signature DJs are basically a "souped up" version of the Signature Pros BUT not by a whole lot... (at least to my ears).

 

Main audible differences:

 

1) Wider Soundstage. No question, maybe it's their "S-Logic" BS or simply their bit bigger driver, or a different damping scheme, etc. but it feels wider

on all of the tracks I have thrown at it. In a song like Blanco y Negro "Pido y Rezo En Vivo" (Merengue), trumpets feel like they have their own space

(unlike on the Sig Pros, which feels more closed in). On Psychic Babble - "Five Fold Kiss (Don't Sleep)", the "heartbeats" (drums) envelop you fully, the synth

and rotating effects are felt more easily and you can actually pinpoint better their direction.

 

 

2) More Bass... but but but... It's not A WHOLE LOT MORE than that of the Sig Pro. It slams a bit more and to my ears the QUANTITY is not 

as much as I expected. In fact, running a sweep on the low frequencies, BOTH headphones TRY to do something at 10Hz, at 15Hz you start "feeling" a bit of

intermittent rumble and at 20 both are clearly audible and quite present. A song I usually test sub-bass is Three Six Mafia - Late Night Tip... If you haven't tested

your cans using this track, do it! ;-) Anyway, I believe that the difference in "presence" is either, the wider soundstage actually "tricking" me into not listening

a Full Blown bass OR the Sig DJs might have a lower mid-bass than the Sig Pros. In fact, I believe this latter one might be what's going on since they don't sound

as "warm" as the Sig Pros. Another cool test track I use to track bass. Differences are very notable on this track (regarding bass and soundstage):

 

 

3) Sig DJs somehow sound more "clear"... sounds a bit more detailed with a bit more "edge". It could be that there might be some peaks on the 4-6k frequencies 

and that gives it a bit of "clarity" on the treble, unlike the Sig Pros which are basically a bit laid back. But I haven't seen any measurements for the Sig DJs either so

maybe I'm slinging BS (my ears/mind don't think so though! ;-)).

 

Other differences noted: As mentioned, earpads feel different, not sure if it's the same material or if my Sig Pro earpads are sufficiently degraded to provide me

a different feeling. The headband seems to have a bit more padding on the bottom on the Sig DJs. Other than that, build seems to be similar (i.e. similar plastics) and

the weight doesn't feel all that different. Sig DJs come with a coiled cable... I'll probably be using Sig Pro's cable though, depends how much hassle they'll be at work.

 

So in conclusion, the Signature DJs are very capable closed headphones. NO... They are not BASS CANNONS and that's it... they actually are enjoyable with

the genres I usually listen to which are not heavily reliable on Bass. I have to say that the added "edge" or brightness is very welcomed, and separates it even more

from the Mad Dogs and Sig Pros.

 

Which one would I choose?

 

Not sure yet, I'll let you guys know in a few weeks. 

For now, I'll keep using the DJs this week and then alternate after that... who knows, maybe I'll stick with them and sell the Sig Pros!?!? 

Or maybe not... ;-)

 

 

Thanks for reading.

 

 

P.S. Just in case, Serial # for the DJ: 00436, and for the Sig Pros: 00595

P.P.S. Maybe next week I'll try to compare them with the Yamaha Pro 500s and even the M-Audio Q40s (if I can find my freaking velour pads!!!) just for the heck of it.


Edited by gelocks - 3/26/13 at 9:51pm
post #690 of 2024

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