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post #331 of 1940

It's much too early to tell, but I am really happy. This is what I wanted the Pro 900 to be, but ended up getting rid of them twice because I couldn't make them work. I am noticing, possibly, a small lack of refinement compared to the Sig Pro. But again, this is straight out of the box. 

 

Whereas the Pro 900 bass is boomy sometimes, this stays super tight. And the jackhammer highs are gone. It's not fair to compare this to the Pro 900 as these are on a whole other level. This is the refined man's bass can. 

post #332 of 1940
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

Looking forward to your impressions post burn-in SF. I have had the SigDJs loaner for 3 weeks now but not re-opened it since my initial review 2 weeks back. I did manage to exchange the SigPro for a "better" one. Quite funny that when I told the distributor I felt the one I had didn't sound right they took 2 other SigPros out and all 3 had different sounds. So I picked the best of the lot to bring home to do a SigDJ/SigPro face-off.

 

Nice, I'll be doing the same! Can't wait to compare notes. 

 

This could be the ultimate basshead can. Finally, a top-end bass headphone. Sigh. Love it. 

 

To be clear the bass is not ragingly more than the SP, it's just decidedly more plentiful and robust. 

 

Edit: OH MAN, these are so much fun!


Edited by SoundFreaq - 11/16/12 at 9:23am
post #333 of 1940

Nice!

 

Now if only RMC would start shipping them... (have not cancelled yet... not yet... but I want an All in One PC for my computer room so... )

post #334 of 1940
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Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post

It's much too early to tell, but I am really happy. This is what I wanted the Pro 900 to be, but ended up getting rid of them twice because I couldn't make them work. I am noticing, possibly, a small lack of refinement compared to the Sig Pro. But again, this is straight out of the box. 

 

Whereas the Pro 900 bass is boomy sometimes, this stays super tight. And the jackhammer highs are gone. It's not fair to compare this to the Pro 900 as these are on a whole other level. This is the refined man's bass can. 

 

Just remembered your XB1000 vs Pro 900 review, and there were several inconsistencies (from bass quality to treble) there that went against most Pro 900 listeners, so I'm waiting for more people to post impressions/reviews on the Signature DJ.

post #335 of 1940

I thought we resolved that and found I was actually consistent. I think if one takes the time to actually read it in it's entirety, the pieces taken out of context that didn't make sense, then would. 


Edited by SoundFreaq - 11/16/12 at 11:28am
post #336 of 1940
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Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post

I thought we resolved that and found I was actually consistent. I think if one takes the time to actually read it in it's entirety, the pieces taken out of context that didn't make sense, then would. 

 

You're right, memory isn't serving me properly at all today.

 

Are you currently driving the Signature DJ through the gear from your sig?

post #337 of 1940

Not yet! I am at work and can't wait to see how my home rig plays with the Sig DJ. I am currently at work running through my Audioengine D1. Notes from the LF later. 

post #338 of 1940

Is the Audioengine D1 enough to drive them with minimum acceptable quality? I know its output quality is good, but it lacks a bit of driving power.

post #339 of 1940

The D1 is plenty of power for sure being fed into the 32 ohms of the SDJ. The will definitely be shaking on your head. For low impedance stuff, the D1 is pretty solid for quality and power. 

post #340 of 1940

I've been flirting with it for some time, and was wondering if it would handle similar power 40 Ohm headphones, so that's reassuring.

 

What about USB 2.0/3.0 compatibility and stability? I ask mainly due to being a driverless device. And one thing that worries me it's the output impedance, which wouldn't do bass any favors.

post #341 of 1940

40 ohms wouldn't be a problem at all. Plenty of power to go around. 

 

Have not tested on 3.0, but never a problem on 2.0. My Macbook Pro recognizes it every time. Occasionally I will have to manually tell it to output to D1 instead of internal speakers in Preferences. No stability issues once output established. Pretty amazing for a driverless device. But have not tried on Windows. 

 

My favorite thing to do it use the DAC in the D1, which I feel is it's best attribute, and output to my RSA P-51. Definite improvement in quality and quantity in bass. 

post #342 of 1940

The output impedance is an issue and will make bass less controlled, that being the main issue I find with the D1, which is why I pushed it away until I got 70 Ohm headphones and higher, which won't be affected by it. However, running a line-out would bypass that issue, and I'm only interested in the DAC section of it, anyway. You're not affected by that because you send audio through line-out to the RSA P-51, but people who run low impedance headphones straight from the D1 will have worse lower end.

 

Might have to look further for reviews under Windows 7/8.


Edited by Roller - 11/16/12 at 1:38pm
post #343 of 1940
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Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post

Not yet! I am at work and can't wait to see how my home rig plays with the Sig DJ. I am currently at work running through my Audioengine D1. Notes from the LF later. 


I look forward to your comparisons with other closed headphones.  These are back on my radar.

post #344 of 1940

Out of my LF, things sound pretty good. 

 

These are very initial impressions after only a few minutes of A/B with SP and SDJ. 

 

The bass is the largest difference between the two. The SDJ is bigger, more robust bass, that stays tight and in control. However, when you do boost the bass that much, it's inevitable the driver just can't recover as quickly as the smaller driver in the SP. They both maintain plenty of texture and detail in the bass. Impressively so. It's just the detail is a touch more evident on the SP with quicker decay. I am taking a stab at this and saying, that at the peak, the SDJ has maybe a 7db jump on the SP. And it's mostly mid bass. 

 

The mids are a tad recessed by just a couple DB. The SDJ mids sound sweet and are enveloping, just a smidgeon less than the SP. 

 

The highs are a tad brighter on the SDJ. But because of the bass jump, it compensates to make the SDJ not bright. The SP is sweet, smooth, yes very detailed. I feel with burn in the SDJ has become more bright, and were borderline dark out of the box. Note that there is no annoying 6-8k spike on the SDJ, which really helps alot. 

 

The below graph is what I am feeling right now about the difference between the SP and SDJ. Note that the SP is obviously not flat, but I am just showing how the SDJ is different in comparison to the SP. The black tick marks are about 150hz, and 8khz. Peaks at 7db, and 2db, respectively. Again, this is just my ears, and these things are changing by the hour. 

 

Overall, the SP sounds a tad more refined, but the SDJ is no slouch. Again, only 6-7 hours on SDJ. I honestly don't know which one I prefer for even pure EDM. They both have their amazing qualities. I can't imagine keeping both. They are both definitely Signature line sounds. The SDJ is a Sig Pro with bigger bass, just slightly pulled back mids while still being lush, and a bit more brightness up top, which is overshadowed by the big bass. More impressions to come. I'll inevitably compare to TH900. 

 

 

700

 

The SDJ is a more forward presentation all the way across for sure. Adding to an edginess. 


Edited by SoundFreaq - 11/16/12 at 5:47pm
post #345 of 1940

OK, I've spent some more time with the two of these headphones, the SigPro and SigDJ. I also brought in another set of ears that is good with picking out detail in music, and I totally trust.

 

To us, we agree the SP is just more refined and cleaner. Treble is smoother while still being super detailed. And the mids are more natural and organic. The bass is tighter on the SP. I actually think the SP has more sub-bass, but it may be that this is only the case because the sub-bass on the SP shines through more because the SDJ has more mid-bass which overshadows the sub-bass. When I am listening to SDJ, I very much miss the refinement of the SP. And when I am listening to the SP, I crave that touch more bass. Seeing as how I own the MG6Pro for monstrous bass, I don't see myself keeping the SDJ right now. They both do things very well, but for me, I miss the refinement and control of the SP over the more robust bass of the SDJ, I am surprised to say. We both agree the SP is a classier and more fun sound. There are just less faults in the sound. 

 

This evaluation is far from over. I am just letting you know how it goes as it goes. Hope it helps. 


Edited by SoundFreaq - 11/16/12 at 7:43pm
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