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post #2326 of 2340
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Originally Posted by Dobrescu George View Post
 

I am curious if these pads will sound better, but judging from the materials, they might reduce treble. 

I didn't do a ton of A-B testing as I didn't want to ruin the stock pads by constantly swapping them, but I feel like treble is at least as prevalent with the ZMF cowhide pads. In fact at first I thought there might be too much, but I got used to it. There is a little cloth insert behind the regular pad that I also removed when I put the ZMF pads on, so this may have something to do with it.

 

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Originally Posted by raelamb View Post
 


I agree. I have both the Sig PRO's and Sig DJ's and spend 85% of the time with the DJ's. The PRO's have more midrange and sound congested sometimes as a result. The DJ's are just more fun:)

 

Curse the white color though lol.

Even without having heard the SDJ, I completely understand where you're coming from with the SP sounding congested... That being said, the new pads GREATLY improved the SP in this regard and brought it to a whole new level.

 

I still do want to hear the SDJ, though. :P

post #2327 of 2340
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Originally Posted by Dobrescu George View Post

I am curious if these pads will sound better, but judging from the materials, they might reduce treble. 

Okay. This was incredibly hard to remove all the photos and such posting from my phone. Hoping it was worth it.
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Originally Posted by zach915m View Post

I've gotten a lot of questions regarding the tonality of each wood.  After testing on the production sets I've found the earpads used also have a great effect on the sound.  I would character the earpads like this:

Cowhide ZMF PadsThe Darkest punchiest earpad.  Seems to be slightly warmer and slightly more engaging/mid-centric.  Very dynamic.

Lambskin ZMF Pads:  Larger soundstage, slightly brighter than Cowhide, good punch and dynamics.  What I would consider neutral compared to the other 2.

Protein ZMF Pads:  Brightest ZMF Pad.  A db or two less bass, slightly accentuated treble by a db or 2.  More linear sound.  Still keeps the robust ZMF sound.

As far as the woods:

Blackwood:  Smooth.  Quick/fast transients.  A dark resolving sound with OOMPH.  Most sub-woofer effect of the three, can be overpowering with Cowhide Pads, I prefer Lambskin or Protein on the Blackwood Omni.

Walnut:  Most neutral presentation.  Has much of the speed/depth/extension of the Blackwood and the soundstage/openness of the Cherry.  Has been the most popular wood so far. 

Cherry:  Romantic and resolving presentation.  Greater decay than Walnut or Blackwood, but with lifelike instrument timbre, especially for acoustic instrument IMHO.  A touch of bloom for that "je ne sais qois" that you need in your life.  Still fast, still deep. LARGEST soundstage.


It's worth noting that all sets are tuned exactly the same.  I would recommend getting two different types of pads (everyone gets to choose two sets upon ordering) so that you can "pad roll" a little for your favorite sound.

And NO, having the pilot pad or leather band doesn't affect the sound, at least to my measurements and ears!

I also remove the cloth filter of the stock pads when I attach my ZMF cowhides. The cowhide pads do have/add more bass. I'm curious how the other's fair in pairing; I might try some of the others when I receive my pair of Omni's sometime next month.
Edited by socks mk2 - 8/20/15 at 3:06pm
post #2328 of 2340
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Originally Posted by Dobrescu George View Post
Not download. Get a computer, with a CD-ROM, and rip your CDs with a free ripper program, like EAC. It is free, and it is fun. And you should have way less problems this way, and better SQ, with longer lasting CDs.


I say it is better to buy CDs and rip them yourself, but using CDs to listen is too much hassle to be do-able.

 

 

 

too much work.  I'll stick to CD player.  I could get the latest CD portable if I can get  a list of Sony or panasonic on their latest models.

 

By the way, when you said "your sony is 1 bit DAC", how bad is it?


Edited by happy hopping - 8/21/15 at 4:36am
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Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post
 

 

Oh I have never done a direct comparison of the two directly. Just drawing on my years spent with them. And I have listened to both from any setup or condition imaginable. Straight out of mixing consoles, out of DACs unamped, portables, top-end tube and SS amps. What are you interested in hearing about?

 

I'm mostly interested in portable CD player comparison.  I went to a specialty shop today.  I use a portable Sony Cd D-EJ2000 on a TEAC HAP50, no difference to my ears.  But the salesman said the TEAC is "more open, more room", and my Sony by itself has distortion.  Whereas I can't tell any difference. 

 

But when I connect the Sony to a Marantz HD-DAC1 desktop unit, there is noticeable difference in sound.

 

So while I appreciate your input on the comparison of V900 vs. SP, I am concern if my ears can tell a noticeable difference, as well as whether the CD portable connects to a good portable DAC can make a noticeable difference.

post #2330 of 2340
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Originally Posted by happy hopping View Post
 

 

too much work.  I'll stick to CD player.  I could get the latest CD portable if I can get  a list of Sony or panasonic on their latest models.

 

By the way, when you said "your sony is 1 bit DAC", how bad is it?

This does not mean it is bad. CD music is still PCM at 16 bits, I think that it means that the DAC processes 1 bit of music at once. 

 

In the end I think that you are getting similar quality as any other DAC.

 

In my experience, DACs make least of a difference, AMPs make most, and Headphones are worlds away one from another. 

 

You should rest easy, your CD Player is as good as any CD player will ever be. If you want to invest in source, get a portable amp, and it Might help, but headphones will make the most of a difference. 

 

Even with a cheap sansa Clip+, something like a sennheiser ie800 sounds worlds away from a cheap IEM. 

post #2331 of 2340

alright, I'll buy the signature pro this christmas then.  I'm surprise the big price difference btwn. amazon vs. ebay on the very same signature pro.

 

Does anyone has any other cheaper source than amazon?  currently at $1023 vs. ebay at $1350

post #2332 of 2340
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Originally Posted by happy hopping View Post

alright, I'll buy the signature pro this christmas then.  I'm surprise the big price difference btwn. amazon vs. ebay on the very same signature pro.

Does anyone has any other cheaper source than amazon?  currently at $1023 vs. ebay at $1350
check the head-fi classifieds. you'll find them much cheaper. I've seen the Sig Pro for as little as $550 without all accessories.
Example: I paid $830 for mine via classifieds.
Edited by socks mk2 - 8/21/15 at 6:22pm
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http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-ULR-SIG-PRO-LIST?SRC=D0301DT0HAMS0000&utm_source=shopping&utm_medium=feed&

 

this place is selling a signature pro under the description of "Non factory sealeD"  for $1052

 

is that their way of saying it's open box?

post #2334 of 2340
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Originally Posted by happy hopping View Post
 

http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-ULR-SIG-PRO-LIST?SRC=D0301DT0HAMS0000&utm_source=shopping&utm_medium=feed&

 

this place is selling a signature pro under the description of "Non factory sealeD"  for $1052

 

is that their way of saying it's open box?

 

I that that it means that factory rejected the item, it was bought by a 3rd party, then sealed, and made look like new. 

 

at 1052$ it is more expensive than the normal price of a sig dj, so why would it matter?

post #2335 of 2340

because I need signature pro, and the lowest price is $1023 at amazon.  But I will continue to dig around the internet.  I won't buy this until Dec. anyway.  If I buy myself this item today, I'll find some other item to buy for christmas

post #2336 of 2340

besides the signature DJ / Pro, is there any other Ultrasone headphone that can fold flat or fold in a ball, ie. portable?

post #2337 of 2340
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Originally Posted by happy hopping View Post
 

besides the signature DJ / Pro, is there any other Ultrasone headphone that can fold flat or fold in a ball, ie. portable?

Besaides performance and editions alll are like sig dj or pro 

post #2338 of 2340

it looks like UltraSone Signature GO is the only other 1 that can fold into a Ball.  I wonder how's the sound compares to the Pro?


Edited by happy hopping - Today at 2:29 pm
post #2339 of 2340
HappyHopping, I have been reading through your queries throughout the entire thread ane I think you really need to set your mind clear.
First and foremost, you are at a Ultrasone Signature DJ thread asking constantly about the signature pro, but that is fine because this is the more active thread of the two and they are pretty similar headphones.

Next you asked about the electronic chain required (ala amp dac etc) for the signature pros, and people attempt to explain to you and I have yet to see a word of thanks, some guy mentioned you should have gave acknowledgement for their time to reply and help and i totally agree with him.

Now you are asking to compare a $149 Ultrasone Go with a $1000 Ultrasone Sig DJ/Pro...

Last but not least, you mentioned you are planning to buy in december so I guess its pretty much too early to ask anything now as this period of the year there would be tons of headphones coming out. You havent heard the ultrasones and you wish to blind buy them for a thousand bucks seem like a risky try...

nevertheless, ultrasone signature dj best closed sealed can yet that are portable!
post #2340 of 2340

When I first join here, I must  have search under ultrasone signature, and this thread comes up, back then, I don't even know there is 2 different ver.  As to the Signature Go, I just find out today, and yeah, you're right, it's a cheap headphone, so I'll pass on that

 

And you're right about buying w/o trying, I have try to get a hold of either the pro or DJ ver., I contact the head office of Ultrasone, they bump me to some distributor, that distributor give me the name of the dealer locally, but they don't sell Signature Pro / DJ, so there is no way of trying.  I also try rental or some sort of test demo, there is no such program.  But the review of the pro or the DJ is very good.

 

sometimes I wonder what other members would do if they can't get a hold of any dealer in town that sells it.

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