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post #2056 of 2064
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post
 

 

 

It will be hard for me to give that much time with them in case I don't like them at start since I'm superbusy with my hobby these days and I also do lots of mastering of hardstyle tracks for newbie so "settling in with a new headphone" is one of those things I have a hard time finding time for unfortunately. 

At least these ones are used about 250 hrs or something so there's no "mechanical burn-in" to be pursued. I do know the brain-bias/old-bias plays a bit role though and it takes time for the brain to adapt to the change and I've experienced it before but sometimes you also know it's just not for you. If for example the music doesn't "capture you" when listening, it's probably not the right headphone for you. DT770 Pro was a clear example, then moving from DT770 Pro to XB500 which is a downgrade sound quality wise but I immediatly felt out of the first listen much more engagement and enjoyment listening mostly because the DT770 sounded so "distant" while XB500 was a lot more intimate and up-front and didn't have the metallic highs (ok XB500's highs aren't much different but it wasn't as apparent).

 

Then you might really really not like the Ultrasones if you like intimate, up front (read: small soundstage) type of sound. The Ultrasone S-Logic is known for producing a super spacious, out of head, and dare I say distant? sonic experience. I really like it because sometimes I have to take off my headphone to make sure that the signal is going through my headphones and not the speakers. That's how out of your head it is on some tracks and in those couple of moments you get a small smirk that make the audiophile hobby and putting in the money really worth it. I hope you like the SigDJs though. 

post #2057 of 2064


Please guys, let him experience the Signature Dj unbiased. He waited so long, he deserves it.

post #2058 of 2064
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Originally Posted by goldenSHK View Post
 

Then you might really really not like the Ultrasones if you like intimate, up front (read: small soundstage) type of sound. The Ultrasone S-Logic is known for producing a super spacious, out of head, and dare I say distant? sonic experience. I really like it because sometimes I have to take off my headphone to make sure that the signal is going through my headphones and not the speakers. That's how out of your head it is on some tracks and in those couple of moments you get a small smirk that make the audiophile hobby and putting in the money really worth it. I hope you like the SigDJs though. 


Don't get me wrong, I like "out-of the head" experience. So much that I ended up sticking with Realtek onboard over Xonar STX II and SoundBlaster ZxR because somehow the Realtek if using 5.1 speakers especially has really good positioning and out of the head experience. I've always wondered why that is but don't know other than I guess it has to be a difference in how the drivers handles the HRTF stuff. No matter what settings I used, STXII and ZxR sounds more "in-my-head". So I'm into convincing out of the head sound (I'm also the person who made the custom Dolby Headphone foobar2000 config linked in my signature tuned to lessen the impact it has on sound quality to the point people with LCD2 and alike enjoyed it even, I don't use it that much for my personal listening anymore but it's fun once in a while).

It's so hard to describe these things to other people. :p

Ultimately for me though I tend to wanna experience more of a "Small studio" than "Concert hall" sound, I want to be positioned very close to the vocalist but I like it when I get the feeling I can tell say the drummer is maybe 2-3 meters in 75 degree angle, a guitarist is maybe positioned 2 meters to a 130 degree angle and the vocalist like 1 meter in front of me etc.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 9/24/14 at 1:40pm
post #2059 of 2064
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post
 


Don't get me wrong, I like "out-of the head" experience. So much that I ended up sticking with Realtek onboard over Xonar STX II and SoundBlaster ZxR because somehow the Realtek if using 5.1 speakers especially has really good positioning and out of the head experience. I've always wondered why that is but don't know other than I guess it has to be a difference in how the drivers handles the HRTF stuff. So I'm into convincing out of the head sound (I'm also the person who made the custom Dolby Headphone foobar2000 config linked in my signature tuned to lessen the impact it has on sound quality to the point people with LCD2 and alike enjoyed it even).

It's so hard to describe these things to other people. :p

Haha my bad. I have a feeling you'll like the SigDJs for sure, I was just worried for a sec because people who mostly like "intimate" sound never like Ultrasone. You sound like someone who appreciates both depending on the setting. It's hard to not like the SigDJ. It is one heck of a great sound signature coupled with some serious end game potential in imaging and detail retrieval. Report back to us what you think once you get the cans. 

post #2060 of 2064

Don't overthink it. :evil:

post #2061 of 2064

I've had the Sennheiser HD700 for a week now and the Sig DJ is unbeatable. The mids, voicing of the Sig DJ is more forward and very much enjoyable for me. The treble is smooth and not fatiguing.

 

The HD700 mids are further back, the treble is a little harsh at times, the "S's" are emphasized . Lets not even compare the bass lol. The HD700 also requires twice as much power for the same volume level. I only purchased these for gaming but can't justify keeping them just for the comfort factor. These are going back.

 

Man, the more time I spend with the Signature DJ, the more I appreciate them. Very special cans.


Edited by Bloodflowerz - 9/25/14 at 2:12pm
post #2062 of 2064
For gaming I recommend the Ultrasone PRO 550 and the AKG K7XX. The Sig DJ has too much bass. You won't hear the soundcues in multyplayer games so good.
post #2063 of 2064
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Originally Posted by pietcux View Post

For gaming I recommend the Ultrasone PRO 550 and the AKG K7XX. The Sig DJ has too much bass. You won't hear the soundcues in multyplayer games so good.

 

Yeah, I want open headphones for gaming, hence why I tried the HD700. The AKG cups are too big for me and they annoy me.

 

I'm looking to repurchase the Beyer T1 again.

post #2064 of 2064

So got my Signature DJs today! 

First impressions like my fear was, slightly bit too distant sounding mids, they were too much in the background / the highs took sliiiiightly bit too much presence for my taste leading to a somewhat thinner timbre than ideal. Felt also the bass lacked a tiiiiiny amount punch when compared to Q40. 

So then I proceeded to take the next step which I had already planned for them if I didn't like the stock sound, to apply some additional layer of coating in front of the drivers to further smoothen up the sound to bring the mids/lows forward / taming the highs slightly. The first thing I found lying around was a piece of foam rings from some other headphone:
 


And I was like woah! What a difference, much more to my taste! :D Both the mids moved forward and became thicker like I wanted to and the bass also slightly increased without getting muddy! Need more listening but with this config I quite immediatly enjoyed the sound. Do note my source is pretty bright/analytical sounding, so YMMV.

Do I get a special price for the fastest modded Ultrasone Signature DJ? xD

Using ZO FS+ amp as a reference with bass/treble adjustment levels of 0 - 32 to tell how bass/treble was adjusted on it before/after mod for ideal sound to my taste:



Before mod: Bass: 31 / Treble: 0-1 

After mod:  Bass: 29 / Treble: 6


Compared to M-Audio Q40:

Bass: 31 / Treble: 4

Compared to M-Audio Q40 this current modded Signature DJ is ever so slightly heavier/punchier/impactful in bass, pretty similar in terms of mid/highs presence but still has sliiight bit better sense of airiness despite the foam pad. Slightly better soundstaging. Which is pretty much what I've looked for.

EDIT: The fit can be a bit tricky on these headphones since it changes the sound a bit depending on placement (a lot more so than other headphones I've used so far due to the S-Logic design thing) With the foam pads in place I can also control the tonality/soundstaging slightly bit and I find with the foam insert I prefer having the ears slightly higher up to get slight amount increase in treble clarity and gaining soundstage size while without the foam pad I'd place the ears as much over the driver opening as possible (ie. lower, further back). Clamping force is quite suitable, I'd actually not say no the slightest amount INCREASED clamping force even (yes I like high clamping force). :p

EDIT2: Next up, AKG K518 foam pads, let the foam-rolling begin! xD

Hmm, a bit too veiled highs with these like I sorta expected due to how much they tamed the treble on those AKG K518 DJ.

EDIT3: Next up the Panasonic RP-HTF600 foam which seems better, not as thick pads as the first ones pictured above but maybe somewhat more dense.

Pretty good, maybe slightly more highs compared to the first ones, maybe missing a bit lower-mids for my tastes and the bass isn't as impressive.

Will try some more foam tomorrow maybe, my mom is a seamstress so she might have some foam I could use. For now the pictured foam works superb, giving the Signature DJs a very balanced tonality between mids and highs on my setup. Glad I happened to have such foam pads around, seems like it's letting reasonable amount sound to pass through due to it's rather vented texture. Typical oldish speaker foam used on speakers from the vinyl era is probably the kind I'd need since it's not overly dense.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - Today at 10:58 am
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