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post #1621 of 2041
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Originally Posted by TWerk View Post
 

 

Well, I was given a great deal on them, so I figured I could sell at a great price too.

 

Anyways, I'm very glad to have tried them, so I could cross them off my list.

 

Next stop, TH-900! :wink_face: 

 

Lets hope you find solace in that headphone.....it should meet all of your criteria (or most anyways).  Otherwise you may be proclaiming "Next stop, Abyss"...lol :beerchug: 


Edited by Mortalcoil - 6/17/14 at 2:50pm
post #1622 of 2041
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Originally Posted by Mortalcoil View Post
 

 

Lets hope you find solace in that headphone.....it should meet all of your criteria (or most anyways).  Otherwise you may be proclaiming "Next stop, Abyss"...lol :beerchug: 

 

Haha! That's the scary part! I don't know where I would go next if it isn't the one. Maybe find a new hobby? :confused: 

 

But I do have an "inclination" that TH-900 is the one i've been looking for... On paper, at least.

post #1623 of 2041
I had doubts with my sig dj at first too, you really need to give it a couple of weeks. Absolute first listen for me i heard a muddy mess compared to my hfi 580s. I even heard less of a soundstage. Thats because it had more bass and less highs than my hfi 580s. Luckily for me i knew that the djs were much less muddy than my hfi 580s, they had to be. After about 4-7 days i had noticed that they did indeed sound clearer and better in almost every way (i was still missing the highs). After a month.. I was in love biggrin.gif
Edited by sloomingbla - 6/17/14 at 5:47pm
post #1624 of 2041

^ brain burn-in. ;)

Mids take the longest time to appriciate, your mind always have a old headphone bias to it when directly testing another headphone, if the other headphone had more highs you will likely find the new one with lesser highs to sound muddy at first since your brain expects it to sound like the old one did! But once the brain settles in to the new sound you find that's not really true and you start appriciating the thickness of the midrange. I've walked the full path already from only caring about bass to loving heavily exaggerated V-shape sound to actually hating V-shape sound (I still like my bass) but it's important that the mids and highs are in balance these days for me. If the highs get more present than mids then the music leaves me a cold feeling that I can't get involved into, it's like, yea I hear music play clearly but it doesn't capture me, that's what the low-mids in particular does for me when the instruments become thicker and weightier. It's not enough for it to sound clear, I want it to sound weighty/"thick" too!

It's funny how this hobby is a bit upside-down when it comes to how people enjoy the music based on how experienced/enthusiastic the person is about the hobby. Lower-mids, around 500Hz or so is usually the first slider the random street warrior pumping Beats would lower on the EQ to get a "clearer" sound while the longtime headphone enthusiast tend to appriciate the thickness of the sound which is why highend headphones usually have a very even and good presence throughout the lower-mids to the upper-mids/lower highs section because this is the range which seems to take the longest time to appriciate and what those people who are serious about spending cash for good quality sound seems to be looking for in many cases.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 6/17/14 at 6:10pm
post #1625 of 2041
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post
 

^ brain burn-in. ;)

Mids take the longest time to appriciate, your mind always have a old headphone bias to it when directly testing another headphone, if the other headphone had more highs you will likely find the new one with lesser highs to sound muddy at first since your brain expects it to sound like the old one did! But once the brain settles in to the new sound you find that's not really true and you start appriciating the thickness of the midrange. I've walked the full path already from only caring about bass to loving heavily exaggerated V-shape sound to actually hating V-shape sound (I still like my bass) but it's important that the mids and highs are in balance these days for me. If the highs get more present than mids then the music leaves me a cold feeling that I can't get involved into, it's like, yea I hear music play clearly but it doesn't capture me, that's what the low-mids in particular does for me when the instruments become thicker and weightier. It's not enough for it to sound clear, I want it to sound weighty/"thick" too!

It's funny how this hobby is a bit upside-down when it comes to how people enjoy the music based on how experienced/enthusiastic the person is about the hobby. Lower-mids, around 500Hz or so is usually the first slider the random street warrior pumping Beats would lower on the EQ to get a "clearer" sound while the longtime headphone enthusiast tend to appriciate the thickness of the sound which is why highend headphones usually have a very even and good presence throughout the lower-mids to the upper-mids/lower highs section because this is the range which seems to take the longest time to appriciate and what those people who are serious about spending cash for good quality sound seems to be looking for in many cases.

 

Totally agree with brain burn-in and with the overall assessment.!

 

Listening to Belanova (Canciones para la Luna album) on my Sig DJs right now BTW... :p

post #1626 of 2041

Has anyone compared the Mids of the DJ with the T5p?

 

Some songs with my Shure 1540 sound recessed and sometimes the bass sounds a bit flabby. I feel like there is no sub bass, only strong mid bass with the Shure. I remember my old HFI-780 had superb sub bass. Anyhow, I think I'm going back to my T5p now lol but would really like to try the DJ and Fostex before calling it a day.

post #1627 of 2041

@ Pietcux

 

I know you've explained this already but can you refresh my memory; is the Sig DJ based on the same design of the HFI-780? Apart from the comfort and slight harsh treble it's one of my fav headphones. The Sig DJ seems to tame that treble; I would hope it retains the forward mids of the HFI-780 too.

post #1628 of 2041
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Originally Posted by Bloodflowerz View Post
 

Has anyone compared the Mids of the DJ with the T5p?

 

Some songs with my Shure 1540 sound recessed and sometimes the bass sounds a bit flabby. I feel like there is no sub bass, only strong mid bass with the Shure. I remember my old HFI-780 had superb sub bass. Anyhow, I think I'm going back to my T5p now lol but would really like to try the DJ and Fostex before calling it a day.

 

The mids are one of the best things that the T5p's got going on for them. Definitely a different (and more forward) presentation. Have in mind though that I haven't listened to my Beyer's since February... :( (they are in the process of being 'woodified' by Martin Custom Audio...)

post #1629 of 2041
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Originally Posted by Bloodflowerz View Post
 

Has anyone compared the Mids of the DJ with the T5p?

 

Some songs with my Shure 1540 sound recessed and sometimes the bass sounds a bit flabby. I feel like there is no sub bass, only strong mid bass with the Shure. I remember my old HFI-780 had superb sub bass. Anyhow, I think I'm going back to my T5p now lol but would really like to try the DJ and Fostex before calling it a day.



The Shure 1540 isn't midbass focused, it's a pretty subbass focused headphone, it's the reason I withdrew it from my list as I'd need balanced subbass and midbass presence but otherwise it looked like measuring great since I'm on the hunt for the closest I can get to ^-- shape response:


 

^ as seen here, the SRH1540's bass is centered around 50Hz which is in the subbass region. What it does though is to have very good punchy/tight bass character which you maybe aren't used to as seen in the measurement here. (won't go into detail explaining how to interpret the measurements)


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 6/19/14 at 1:18pm
post #1630 of 2041

What I mean is the bass of the Shure 1540 does not go very low to my ears compared to what I have heard before. There is also a lack of slam/impact.


Edited by Bloodflowerz - 6/20/14 at 1:20am
post #1631 of 2041
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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post
 

 

The mids are one of the best things that the T5p's got going on for them. Definitely a different (and more forward) presentation. Have in mind though that I haven't listened to my Beyer's since February... :( (they are in the process of being 'woodified' by Martin Custom Audio...)

 

You still ain't got them back yet? How long has it been now?

post #1632 of 2041
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Originally Posted by Bloodflowerz View Post

@ Pietcux

I know you've explained this already but can you refresh my memory; is the Sig DJ based on the same design of the HFI-780? Apart from the comfort and slight harsh treble it's one of my fav headphones. The Sig DJ seems to tame that treble; I would hope it retains the forward mids of the HFI-780 too.
The Signatures both share the overall construction of the HFI 480 to 780 and the DJ1. The Sig Pro uses a 40 mm titanium driver and shares the baffle board with the HFI series mentioned. The Sig Dj uses a 50 mm mylar driver like the DJ1 and shares its baffle board. Both Signatures share the earpads and probably some internal modifications like dampening and stronger magnets on the drivers.
Edited by pietcux - 6/20/14 at 1:40pm
post #1633 of 2041
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Originally Posted by pietcux View Post


The Signatures both share the overall construction of the HFI 480 to 780 and the DJ1. The Sig Pro uses a 40 mm titanium driver and shares the baffle board with the HFI series mentioned. The Sig Dj uses a 50 mm mylar driver like the DJ1 and shares its baffle board. Both Signatures share the earpads and probably some internal modifications like dampening and stronger magnets on the drivers.


Not to mention that the Pro shares some of that good old ED-9 D.N.A :beerchug:

post #1634 of 2041

To all who give a damn:

 

I ended up buying the TH-900, with the Lawton mods (dampening) done to them.

 

I'm super excited, and hope it'll be amazing considering the amount of money I had to save to buy it.

 

Anyways, I'll keep the TH-900 stuff separate from this SIG DJ thread in the future, but wanted to let the people following know my decision.

 

Thanks to everyone who helped steer me in this direction, I feel good about what I did. :beerchug: 


Edited by TWerk - 6/20/14 at 7:39pm
post #1635 of 2041
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Originally Posted by TWerk View Post
 

To all who give a damn:

 

I ended up buying the TH-900, with the Lawton mods (dampening) done to them.

 

I'm super excited, and hope it'll be amazing considering the amount of money I had to save to buy it.

 

Anyways, I'll keep the TH-900 stuff separate from this SIG DJ thread in the future, but wanted to let the people following know my decision.

 

Thanks to everyone who helped steer me in this direction, I feel good about what I did. :beerchug: 


Congrats TWerk !! hope you dig them (I'm sure you will).  Think of them as a more refined Sig series hp with a touch of old world Japanese artistry thrown in for good measure.  Keep us posted with impressions ! (in the TH-900 impressions thread if you like ...lol)


Edited by Mortalcoil - 6/20/14 at 8:14pm
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