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post #376 of 924
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post

UE6000 vs. M-100 Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Since several have been asking and I am an impatient creature by nature, here is a comparison between the M-100 and UE6000 (passive mode) with the winner in each category listed.  If I felt any other headphone I have auditioned or owned in the past 6 months was in a league with either of these, they would have been included as well (I will give an honorable mention shout out to the PSB M4U2), so let me state up front that after an extensive headphone search, I am thrilled to find two fantastic, standout headphones and that, if your budget allows, I recommend owning both.  However, if you must choose one, here is my feedback, IMHO, to hopefully help assist with your decision:

Comfort- UE6000  Although heavier and larger, the UE6000 has less clamping force and, more importantly for me larger, deeper, plusher cups that fit around my ears better.  I could wear these for hours.  After an hour or so, I felt some discomfort with the M-100.

Build/appearance- M-100 The industrial design and innovative hinges of the M-100 are a thing of beauty.  I enjoy just looking at my white M-100s and will be adding my blue shields shortly.  The UE6000 is not an ugly headphone.  It looks to me like a copy of the Denon D600 design which I think is fine, but nothing special.  Regarding build quality, no comparison.  M-100 is a solid piece of electronic machinery complete with riveted stainless steel.  The UE6000 seems to have a sturdy headband, but I worry about the cheap plastic cups and battery compartment.

Bass- I have to call this a draw. UE6000 bass seems deeper and more authoritative.  M-100 bass is also deep and authoritative, yet also tighter and I feel the drivers pushing air at high volume with bass boost.

Mids- M-100 Both provide excellent mids.  Compared to other headphones I have heard (not top-tier summit-fi) Detail/resolution in the UE6000 is an 8 out of 10; M-100 is a 9 out of 10.

Highs- M-100 The UE6000 has highs I would consider very close to neutral.  This works extremely well with current popular music that seems to have a treble emphasis, smoothing out those highs and providing a highly pleasurable listening experience that is by no means dark and can even sparkle somewhat.  The M-100 fills in the small bit of rolloff that is missing from the UE6000 and smoothly extends the highs almost to brightness with absolutely no harshness- quite an accomplishment.

Overall sound- This is really a close call for me.  I initially purchased the UE6000 as something to hold me over until the M-100 came out and it turned out to be much more than I expected.  I expect to continue to listen to both headphones and have no intention of returning either, which is saying something because I have returned several headphones in the past few months while waiting for the release of the M-100 including: M-Audio Q40, Audio Technica ATH_PRO700MK2, Sennheiser Amperior, Denon D600, Denon D400 and Sennheiser Momentum.  I have also auditioned dozens more.  All of these returns were based on sonic flaws I felt were dealbreakers, so you could say I consider the M-100 and UE6000 as close to the perfect headphone for me that I have found.

Both present bass in a way that is exciting, enjoyable and adds to the rest of the frequency range.  Both have clean, accurate mids.  Both have enjoyable silky smooth highs.  In the end, I must give a slight edge to the M-100 based on the silky-smooth extended highs that are incredibly detailed.  If I can compare the M-100 to any other headphone on the market, it would be an Ultrasone Signature Pro and I would actually say the M-100 is superior.  While there is slightly less resolution than the Sig Pro, the M-100s highs are much smoother with zero sibilance and the M-100 has a superior bass presentation to the Sig Pro.  Somehow, V-Moda managed to engineer a headphone that I believe can truly sound amazing with every genre.

I congratulate both companies on developing amazing products and look forward to enjoying both for years to come.

OK, I read your review in closer detail *I skimmed the last time*.
"The M-100 fills in the small bit of rolloff that is missing from the UE6000 and smoothly extends the highs almost to brightness with absolutely no harshness- quite an accomplishment."
^ this + similar mids to the UE6k = win to me. Even if the mids are a bit withdrawn, the UE6k's mids were well within my realm of acceptance.

The "almost to brightness" seems like it would be good for me coming from the SRH940, but I can see why some people (reviewers from CNET and Engadget) might not like it. It shall be interesting to see what Tyll has to say about it since he seems to be particularly picky/unfavouring about "bright" headphones.
post #377 of 924
Can someone measure the length and width for the openning of the pad? I wonder if it will fit as an over ear pad. Thanks.
post #378 of 924
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Originally Posted by GigaFi View Post

 

Already know the result, but he asked ;)

But now to decide if to keep the hd598s just for the soundstage or not...

post #379 of 924

Hmm, coming from the AKG K272HD I don't know if I will like the V-moda M100's... If these are not THAT comfortable. I am using my headphones pretty much all day. Anyone have the AKG K272HD and M100's are care to give me a comfort comparison of both?

post #380 of 924

I hope tyll posts some measurements soon.

post #381 of 924
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Originally Posted by DaBomb77766 View Post

Awesome review! They sound pretty much just what I'm looking for!

 

Any comparisons with some other summit-fi type headphones? :P

 

Pix as posted in the other thread...you mean like this??



 

Warning: Spoiler! Same pix from the other M-100 thread. (Click to show)

 

So talking to the other Tokyo head-fi members who attended today's meet, the M-100 was a clear winner. The general impression is that they were toe tapping or body bopping "fun" headphones. But it wasn't just play fun but serious fun.

I'll fill in my comparison headphones once I've given a proper listen to the Sony's. I've already got the M-100 & M-80 drafted and have my thoughts on the Senn Momentums too. But I haven't given the MDR-1Rs a good listen yet.

post #382 of 924

I currently have the D2000 and was wondering how the M100 and UE6000 compare to it. Would one of these headphones be a suitable replacement for the D2000 or are they different enough that it would be beneficial to keep the D2000.

post #383 of 924
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Originally Posted by Chadley View Post

I currently have the D2000 and was wondering how the M100 and UE6000 compare to it. Would one of these headphones be a suitable replacement for the D2000 or are they different enough that it would be beneficial to keep the D2000.


I have not heard the D2000, but could I ask what you don't like about them or would like them to do better?

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Thanks you for all the posts everyone. 25 pages was a lot to get through especially with the off topic arguing (it's the Internet so it's normal). I've been a lurker since I was shopping for my first pair of cans about a year ago and I ended up getting the Sennheiser pc360. I know they are over priced but I needed a mic built in and didn't want to modify anything. biggrin.gif

These m100 are looking beautiful to me and may be what I want. I just have a few questions to clarify that what I've read through these 25 pages and Engadget's review.

1) these are open ear and over design. Am I correct on this?
2) there are two plugs, one on the bottom of each cup. With these you can swap the cable and optional boom mic?
3) I use the astro mixamp 2 to 1 3.5mm plug when I play on my Xbox or when I have a lync call at work into my laptop. One thing I found is if I plug that 2to1 cable into my iPad it makes it lock up. How does the m100 work in this respect? Is the cable pre made as a 2to1 plug or do you switch cables also when boom mic is in?

I really so love my pc360s but if these m100s isolate the sound better I may end up with a second set for work. Sometimes on a lync call other people can hear me and I don't like it. The portability of these look perfect for me. I was looking for a case to transport my pc360s and settled on just hanging them on my work bag everyday.

Ideally I'd leave the pc360s for gaming and when I have to work from home and the m100s to and fro from home to work and use them for music and calls at work.

Thanks all!
post #385 of 924
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post


I have not heard the D2000, but could I ask what you don't like about them or would like them to do better?

I have had my D2000 for almost 2 years and have loved having them.  It's just time to look for a new set of heahphones that improves on the D2000 shortcomings (shortcomings =  bass is awesome and present but not as tight as I would like it, mids could be a little more forward, and the highs toned down a touch). The UE6000 and M100 seem to improve in these areas.  Basically I am looking for a great all around headphone.

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For the guys that got problem with pads being too shallow, why don't you just go stuff some extra paddening underneath pads to make the cups deeper, don't just complain, do something about it instead! ;p I often stuff a piece of kitchen paper towel underneath pads on my headphones if need be, it's usually the easiest and "can-always-be-found" suitable material in the home. My Q40 even improved soundstage wise a little from it besides much better comfort/fit (I can wear headphones for like 5 hrs straight at the comp without taking them off also when no sound is played so comfort is a big but often easy thing to fix). Just be careful to not make it too deep as the distance for the ear to the drivers do change sound signature, most of the time I notice a more V-shape signature the further away so you don't want to make the extra paddening more thick than it needs to be.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 10/12/12 at 9:42am
post #387 of 924
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post

For the guys that got problem with pads being too shallow, why don't you just go stuff some extra paddening underneath pads to make the cups deeper, don't just complain, do something about it instead! ;p I often stuff a piece of kitchen paper towel underneath pads on my headphones if need be, it's usually the easiest and "can-always-be-found" suitable material in the home. My Q40 even improved soundstage wise a little from it besides much better comfort/fit (I can wear headphones for like 5 hrs straight at the comp without taking them off also when no sound is played so comfort is a big but often easy thing to fix). Just be careful to not make it too deep as the distance for the ear to the drivers do change sound signature, most of the time I notice a more V-shape signature the further away so you don't want to make the extra paddening more thick than it needs to be.

I wonder how it'd change the sound though?

post #388 of 924
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Originally Posted by Chadley View Post

I have had my D2000 for almost 2 years and have loved having them.  It's just time to look for a new set of heahphones that improves on the D2000 shortcomings (shortcomings =  bass is awesome and present but not as tight as I would like it, mids could be a little more forward, and the highs toned down a touch). The UE6000 and M100 seem to improve in these areas.  Basically I am looking for a great all around headphone.


From your description, I think the M-100 would serve you well.

post #389 of 924
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Originally Posted by DaBomb77766 View Post

I wonder how it'd change the sound though?


I have tried this mod with other headphones and personally could not detect any audible changes, more of a comfort thing for me.

post #390 of 924
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post


I have tried this mod with other headphones and personally could not detect any audible changes, more of a comfort thing for me.

I might have to give it a try and see, I envision them being a bit too shallow for my ears.

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