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post #1681 of 3298
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Originally Posted by EarwaxDAC View Post

However, I could barebones it as you suggest. The fans and GPU could be introducing noise, and that would be the only way to reasonably question the motherboard. 

 

Confirm it is the GPU.

Turning up chassis+CPU fans to max did not introduce noise.

Turning up GPU fan to max did not introduce noise.

Running Prime95 to run the CPU at 100% did not introduce noise.

Running Video Card Stability Test (link) brings the noise.

Turning on Noise Reduction does remove it, however this reduces the quality of my recorded voice as the noise is in the same range as my voice.

 

Now the question is can I mitigate it by changing slots? I'll shut down and find out now.

 

Edit: No, the noise still persists even with the x1 slot.

 

I'm out of options for this sound card. It's an incredible product but for me it doesn't look like an internal card is going to be an option for this build. Perhaps I will have to suffer using an Omni (SB1560) or Xonar U7. :)


Edited by EarwaxDAC - 1/18/14 at 6:39pm
post #1682 of 3298
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Originally Posted by SaLX View Post
 

Surprised you can't fit it into the x1 slot without removing the GPU, mind you that Noctua is a big bastard.

It fits. The retention clip of the NF-P14 fan on the NH-D14 does rest up against the back of the PCB, and considering how hot it gets between these two components I don't think this is an ideal location.

 

Here are the pics to prove that the x1 slot on a Asus P8Z77-V LX motherboard can be used with a NH-D14 HSF:

 

VVV- I would agree 100% if this were a software issue.


Edited by EarwaxDAC - 1/18/14 at 8:30pm
post #1683 of 3298

Standard mantra would be: uninstall all video (and sound) card drivers > run driver sweeper freeware . Also CCleaner too > reseat the GPU and soundcard (and disable motherboard audio, also check bios etc updates) > install both the GPU and Sound Blaster Drivers, plus DirectX. Win.... hopefully.

 

Where is HAL 9000 when you want the bastard.

post #1684 of 3298
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Originally Posted by EarwaxDAC View Post

Let me just say, that in our guild, push-to-talk is required. It is the worst thing ever to hear some guildmate's kids/wife/dog in the background, or worse yet bodily functions and mouth breathing. So please for the sake of everyone else who plays with you, assign a key to push to talk (I use the 4 key on my naga hex). (I don't mean to pull a 180 on you, I tested it, but I remembered this fact of life just now)

That said, the ACM mic is very clear and provides excellent sound in mumble. It is extremely sensitive, even with noise reduction, and I have a hard time balancing mumble's SNR/raw amplitude thresholds properly. For example, while I don't talk, it doesn't key the mic. However if I make any noise whatsoever (drag my mouse across the desk, type on my keyboard) mumble keys the mic. If you are going to have an open mic it might be best to get it up on your monitor and up off of the desk. If you intend to use PTT I think the ACM is great.

With the settings I posted for crystal voice, games that don't support push to talk are fine and don't activate just from mouse or keyboard.
post #1685 of 3298
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Originally Posted by DJINFERNO806 View Post


With the settings I posted for crystal voice, games that don't support push to talk are fine and don't activate just from mouse or keyboard.

But don't you have the Z's mic, not the ACM?

post #1686 of 3298

Couple of posts up, and it's confirmed that they are the same stereo microphone, but in a different housing.

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It didn't seem to make much of a difference when I used those sliders, it might just be that mumble's vox just sucks (which would explain why my guild prohibits it).

post #1688 of 3298
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Originally Posted by SaLX View Post
 

Couple of posts up, and it's confirmed that they are the same stereo microphone, but in a different housing.


Yes, but the Z's mic is much more versatile when it comes to placement & angling.

post #1689 of 3298
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Originally Posted by MaxKohler View Post


Yes, but the Z's mic is much more versatile when it comes to placement & angling.

Ya and I think that's where most of the talk about the ACM mic sounding different comes from. People just can't position it as well to suit their situations.
post #1690 of 3298

Just received my SBZ today... so very disappointed.  I bought it to get surround through headphones for movies, running XBMC.  It just sounds... mediocre at best.  Using AKG K712's.  It's plenty loud, in fact too loud... I have the volume completely down and it's still too loud, all the while sounding narrow and odd.  I'm having a hard time explaining the sound.  Kind of like having a bucket over my head.  Muffled and bland.  I had a much better impression of surround using Foobar > Mixer > Dolby, unfortunately this won't work under XBMC.  

 

And yes, I have it set up correctly.  

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You in headphone mode in the CCP?

post #1692 of 3298
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Originally Posted by SaLX View Post
 

You in headphone mode in the CCP?

 

Yes, headphone mode is on, as is surround, I've tried just about every setting and up and down on the amount of surround.  Here's the odd bit.  It's incredibly incredibly loud.  I mean, I have it turned almost all the way down if plugged into the stereo jack of the SBZ... now, when I plug my Schiit Vali into the stereo jack, effectively double amping, the volume reduces significantly.  In fact, I can then turn the volume up quite high before it's at an acceptable level.  However, both methods just sound bad.   Muffled / bad, with very weak surround affect.   I've tried playing all sorts of media, from 5.1 to stereo.  Tried through XBMC, Media Player, Media Player Classic, Foobar, J-River.

 

Very narrow sounding as well.  It feels very claustrophobic. 


Edited by atoff - 1/18/14 at 11:18pm
post #1693 of 3298

As for volume try this fix: http://www.overclock.net/t/1337761/official-creative-sound-blaster-z-zx-zxr-series-club/1480. What are other people's thought on movie playback? Personally I favour DH for movies, but in no way do I think that SBX pro is bad.

 

I think you may have something wrong in the chain. I watched Avatar Blu-Ray the other day and it was superb. (please note: neither myself, nor the other regular posters in this thread are fanboys by any means).


Edited by SaLX - 1/18/14 at 11:47pm
post #1694 of 3298
Ya I've watched 5.1 movies in xbmc before with sbx on and they sound fantastic.

DH was a very close second. It was very well imaged too.

You sure that xbmc is set to direct sound right? Not wasapi exclusive? Because that would bypass the z and its driver.

Have you played any games to test?

Also is windows sound settings, is the z set for 5.1?
Edited by DJINFERNO806 - 1/19/14 at 3:24am
post #1695 of 3298

Hi 

 

I have a question.

 

For gaming and mostly music, I'd like to know which is better between Soundblaster ZXR; Asus Essence One and Cambridge dacmagic.

 

Thanks

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