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post #1411 of 2471
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Originally Posted by DJINFERNO806 View Post


It sounds like you may have smart volume on. You described what it does almost exactly.
 

 

Blimey, I think you might be on to something. Will check it later but thanks in advance!

 

Regarding the settings,I'll try 67% as well. How about crystalizer, is it generally advisable to have it off or on? What does it even do? SBX Bass is more self-explanatory and I think mine is set to around 30%.

post #1412 of 2471
Crystalizer is one of those settings that I loath and always rip on for being misleading.

It's supposed to re-master music and bring back the lost details due to compression and make bad mp3s sound good again. Bring back the original dynamic range to 24 bit blah blah.

But in reality it is nothing more than a dynamic set of equalizers that actually decreases dynamic range to compensate for lower end hardware(giving it the illusion of "better"). Only reason it needs 24 bit is to nullify the rounding errors that accumulate during calculations apparently.

So whether you should leave it on or off, my opionion is turn that garbage off. If you feel like you enjoy what it does for you then by all means have fun. But with some decent hardware, you should not have any reason for it. Even with lowly "poverty" mp3s at 192k lol.
post #1413 of 2471

Guess I'll leave it off then as I have Windows sound settings at gaming-grade 16bit 48KHz anyway. :)

post #1414 of 2471
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Originally Posted by Skipshrike View Post

Has anyone else had odd experiences while playing Call of Duty Ghosts with SBX? It sounds like every explosion is right on top of me. When I use DDL out of the card it sounds normal. Rather odd.

Haha so now I'm back to DDL out of the optical and through my mixamp to the X1's. Saves me from switching me settings around when moving to Ghosts after BF4.

please do a comparison between SBX surround 67% and  DDL out + mixamp  combo.

 

Last time i tried the DDL out of a titanium x-fi it  left me unimpressed, bf3 sounded dull and "mono" lol, there was no sound positioning whatsoever, please share your settings :) 

post #1415 of 2471

Probably should mention that the call of duty games feature some of the worst sound positioning to begin with.  The channel separation for certain sounds is just a joke.

 

and dont get me started on the audio assets...

post #1416 of 2471

Like I said, Ghosts is terrible with SBX since explosions far away sound right on top of you. Given how many stun grenades are thrown around in a match... well, you can get the idea of how annoying that got. It was a bad combination with my existing volume problems as I had to have the sound down low to be bearable only to get slammed by those explosion/chopper noises every 30 seconds (slight exaggeration in regards to frequency). This was at 67% and...maybe around 30%? I forget if I tried a lower SBX percentage.  Oddly, footsteps aren't that loud in DDL--even with the perk to make them louder--but that might be my EQ setting.

 

I agree that COD sounds (guns, some positioning) is terrible. I'm also concerned that their audio tab has only a volume slider.  The PC version is an obvious port, but that might cater to DDL as most gaming headsets a console user will listen to employ DDL.

 

DDL has freaked me out a couple times in Ghosts because I'll hear a noise I've never heard before and then realize it's a fire, or something like that, near me. I never heard that with SBX.

 

I'm going to switch back to SBX on BF4 in a few days for a comparison. If I'm gaming against human opponents I am not looking for a vibrant, theater-experience since there are enough distractions. BF4 is getting less playtime due to the color separation bug which starts to give me a headache after a while. I cannot un-see it.

 

We should probably start a thread, just listing, EQ's that work for us in gaming.

post #1417 of 2471

For all of you having volume too low or too loud problems. Check out this post over at OC by Asha10 where he/she(?) has linked to another post about USB, but this actually works for Sound Blasters (and presumably any sound device): http://www.overclock.net/t/1337761/official-creative-sound-blaster-z-zx-zxr-series-club/1480

 

Try it out - it does actually work - and is very easy to use and live updates the gain as you enter/save the values in dB.

post #1418 of 2471

Sure will work but keep in mind that it's software gain.

post #1419 of 2471
Who cares whether it's software or not. The point is it works for those people who can't turn their volume past 8% without their ear drums being blown. And even then increments in 1% are too big...

That's really the only reason its needed.
post #1420 of 2471
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Originally Posted by SaLX View Post
 

For all of you having volume too low or too loud problems. Check out this post over at OC by Asha10 where he/she(?) has linked to another post about USB, but this actually works for Sound Blasters (and presumably any sound device): http://www.overclock.net/t/1337761/official-creative-sound-blaster-z-zx-zxr-series-club/1480

 

Try it out - it does actually work - and is very easy to use and live updates the gain as you enter/save the values in dB.

Confirmed as working solution. It seems to be the same thing as the 'Level' option in the SBZ EQ, but it allows you to go lower than -12dB.

 

Thank you very much for finding this!!!

 

Now I just need to figure out what amp to use through the line-out's stereo direct option for music (only).

post #1421 of 2471

It is a sweet solution - the ability to change the gain up/down on the fly is great and I'm glad it's worked for you SkipShrike - that 'bug' would've driven me to distraction or worse. Be nice to have a simple GUI for it. Might PM the guy who made it. Somewhere Windows has changed the default gain for you and many others - this tiny program seems to normalise it.

 

@xnor - could you explain why software gain is bad in this case, given that when using external amps you'd ideally set Windows volume to 100%? I realise the relationship with internal soundcards may differ.

post #1422 of 2471

I've written a simple script:

 

You need AutoHotkey for it: http://www.autohotkey.com/

 

AutoHotkey.ahk - download this, place in your user - my documents directory, run it. Now use your media keys (volume up / down, mute) or Windows + up, down, end.

 

You can right click the AHK tray icon - edit this script - to change volume step size (default = 0.5%) or stop displaying the volume bar etc..

 

 

edit: I'm not sure if it works .. cannot test all drivers and sound cards.


Edited by xnor - 11/29/13 at 7:34pm
post #1423 of 2471

Thanks loads for this xnor :smile: - will check it out tomorrow !! *Edit . .tried and failed.. am a bit sconed right now*.


Edited by SaLX - 11/29/13 at 7:36pm
post #1424 of 2471
Sconed... Lol

So, Black Friday is tempting me to return my Z internal and get an external Omni for $80... Minus 30%. Keeping in mind all my music and many movies are in my (now separate) Mac computer as well as several games, what are your guys thoughts?

And the new Schiit Vali... looks cool biggrin.gif
post #1425 of 2471

just a quick question for all of you - did I do these steps "right" when I was setting windows control sound panel for my SB ZxR and Sennheiser 360 headset:

 

right click on ZxR device --> configure speakers --> select 5.1 surround --> tick all speakers (front + rear + cen. / subwoofer) --> NOT tick full range speakers --> finish

 

is this right or should I do something else ?

 

thanks

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