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Does it get measured from the headphone jack or the RCA jack (does the RCA even have an output impedance)? If I plug my headphones via the RCA jack will it sound better?

 

1. Headphone jack is the 36 Ohm measurement (lol)

 

2. The RCA's - you'd need to output to an external amp - thought you had one or were getting one? This is the preferred route with an amp.

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Originally Posted by SaLX View Post
 

 

1. Headphone jack is the 36 Ohm measurement (lol)

 

2. The RCA's - you'd need to output to an external amp - thought you had one or were getting one? This is the preferred route with an amp.

Why is it the preferred route with an amp, because of not double amping?

 

I returned my E11... not sure if I need any amp with my HD598's since listening from the RCA jack from my ZXR sounds great. Are there any amps that allows you to plug both the speakers (to bypass it) and the headphones in, and a switch to tune in to either one?

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Er.. not owned one, but with the TiHD apparently the RCA out is the better internal signal to use. Connect to the external amp. Set for headphones and you're good to go. You'd have to use an amp though - just sticking the headphones into those ports would sound crap. Get an ultra cheap FiiO E5 or E6 for starters.

 

Read up the last 15 pages or so to find in more detail why you shouldn't use the speaker outputs for headphones (for surround). Basically you're making your headphones pretend they're speakers in front of you and not all around. Not optimal. Scratching my head as to why your Rca outs /ZxR with the 598 plugged in sounds so good unamped.

 

Lots of amps have that ability to output to speakers. There's loads!  But the ZxR could've done it in software for you. With your new TiHD you'll have to crawl under your desk to swap then change the settings in SW as you can't have both headphones and speakers plugged in at the same time apparently (somebody correct me if I'm wrong on this).


Edited by SaLX - 11/13/13 at 12:43pm
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Output impedencr of the zxr is apparently 40 ohm, 22 is the z.

Its measured from the headphonr jack. Line out jacks usually have an impedence of 100 ohms or more.


Also the TiHD is able to output cmss3d headphone through line outs apparently. The z/zxr seems to have that feature removed for some reason.

Also what is the reason why you want an amp to connect to the zxr?
Edited by DJINFERNO806 - 11/13/13 at 1:59pm
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Finally, just bought a SB-Z. PCPartsPicker.com alerted me that Newegg and Amazon are having a sale today, I picked Amazon because recently Newegg screwed me over with my last two orders and they charge YOU to fix it (not to mention time). $65 shipped from a reliable vendor, with a $25 gift card from my credit card, it was an impulse buy. Sorry DJINFERNO, I saw your sale just now, the Z was too easy to choose.

Anyways I'll happily be joining the ranks! Thought it was cool that others — who I'd been reading and trying to understand the settings options of this series of cards — asked me for tips on other threads, well thanks guys but now it comes back to you! I'll share my experiences next week.

For certain, you CAN'T get headphone surround out from the line-outs? My external amp has RCA inputs, and while 3.5mm-to-RCA cables have worked well for me so far, an OCD part of me would like to use the matching connectors and line-level output...
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OMG! You guys need to read this!
AMD's positional audio processing... more accurate than Binaural... that will be built-in to Radeon Graphics cards and the Sony PS4!
"...it’s an earnest revival of advanced gaming audio, and it sounds bloody wonderful."
http://www.maximumpc.com/everything_you_wanted_know_about_amd’s_new_trueaudio_technology_2013?page=0,1
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What's your take on the SBZ Omni guys? It's really cheap(ish) @ $80. Not exactly pretty. Why is there no option though to mix stereo out like on the normal Z's for stereo uncompressed PCM with it's Toslink out? Not included by the looks of it.

 

 

Eve - glad you got a SBZ!!


Edited by SaLX - 11/13/13 at 5:30pm
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^Yosh! Me too... Long time waiting, to be honest.
I was anticipating the Omni, thought it would be a Recon3D USB replacement, but unlike that (unique) device the Omni doesn't have an optical input option for consoles. It does look like a good PC option, though, and in particular I'm stoked that Creative has continued to make a Mac option with their current generation of products. Optical output is also awesome... The Omni basically looks like an external SoundBlaster Z. I think the Omni looks pretty cool... red's my fav color though wink.gif
Edited by Evshrug - 11/13/13 at 5:48pm
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Saw some poor Mac owner got burned (Amazon US) by not looking at the small print Dolby Digital Live delivers 5.1, note For windows only. Basically then - optical output is completely useless for Macs. (Bet that was lawyers / men in suits did that :smile:)


Edited by SaLX - 11/13/13 at 6:29pm
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I wonder if that amp in the Omni is freakishly loud like my Z's.

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Originally Posted by Skipshrike View Post
 

I wonder if that amp in the Omni is freakishly loud like my Z's.

Windows has always messed around for no apparent reason by very occasionally playing with volume. One minute you've got to crank it up to 50% and you're fine, then for no reason you're on 5% volume or it's too loud. I don't think this is a Creative issue, I really don't; it does however happen to a lot of people. I've never sussed out what caused it.... always seemed to go away when you fiddled a bit.

 

How's your K712 Pros Skipshrike? They're the same price as the K702 Annies here in the UK. Do they work well with the SBZ and how do they compare to the X1's?

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Originally Posted by SaLX View Post
 

Windows has always messed around for no apparent reason by very occasionally playing with volume. One minute you've got to crank it up to 50% and you're fine, then for no reason you're on 5% volume or it's too loud. I don't think this is a Creative issue, I really don't; it does however happen to a lot of people. I've never sussed out what caused it.... always seemed to go away when you fiddled a bit.

 

How's your K712 Pros Skipshrike? They're the same price as the K702 Annies here in the UK. Do they work well with the SBZ and how do they compare to the X1's?

 

I've been fiddling. It's slightly maddening because the line-out jack doesn't have this problem. A USB headset also had this same problem because it's in-line volume control controlled the windows volume.

 

The X1's and K712's work great with the SBZ. Both headphones are enjoyable for gaming. The X1's have more bass and are great for single-player (in the BF4 beta I would use them whenever I played support and used an LMG...boomy noises as intended!). I prefer the K712's for gaming, however, since I am mostly playing BF4 and COD: Ghosts and they help minimize distracting noises.  Granted I still get knifed in the back in Ghosts a lot because I'm trying to focus on the map, radar, what's around me and miss the guy sneaking up behind me.

I've kept both because I prefer one over the other for certain music....and the X1 works way much better with my Astro Mixamp.

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Wow the SBZ currently $65 at newegg for me, I just got the TiHD refurb for $89, wonder if I should get the Z at this price
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Solarium, you need to sit down and figure out what it is you want from a sound card. You are all over the place man. Lol.

@evshrug

Yes 120% you can not get headphone hrtf from line outs. At least not until someone makes a custom driver or creative adds a switch in software for this.
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

OMG! You guys need to read this!
AMD's positional audio processing... more accurate than Binaural... that will be built-in to Radeon Graphics cards and the Sony PS4!
"...it’s an earnest revival of advanced gaming audio, and it sounds bloody wonderful."
http://www.maximumpc.com/everything_you_wanted_know_about_amd’s_new_trueaudio_technology_2013?page=0,1

More accurate than binaural? - lol no, binaural is how it would sound in real life if its done correctly, id like to see them do it more accurate than that :D

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