Originally Posted by doublea71
The "associate the guy I'm disagreeing with with Beats in order to discredit him even though there is no evidence to support this" argument is rather weak and as transparent as the gear you seek.
Honestly I have no idea what you're saying here.
You clearly feel that your sacred cow is being threatened and are responding emotionally. That's fine with me, as well.
No, why should I? You don't know how it looks like when I get emotional, my previous replies all were unemotional. I just explained to you how a definition of hi-fi might look like, what I meant with the Beats analogy and to give people hi-fi if they ask for hi-fi.
With regards to headphones, the meaning of the term "high fidelity" is likely going to change, whether you want it to or not; such is the nature of language. Case in point: (also from wikipedia) The meaning of the term "lo-fi" has changed over time; in the 1970s vacuum tube equipment was considered the lower fidelity alternative to the new semiconductor solid state equipment, although some still consider valves the only "pure" way of listening to music.
Case in point? Some still believe that the earth is flat, so what? How does that change the shape of the earth, or the definition of spheroids? It doesn't, just like some guys loving tubes doesn't change the definition of hi-fi.
I also don't see how the definition changed; technical advancements might have improved tube gear but that didn't change the definitions, just the gear's classification.
We are not living in Germany in the 1960s. Headphones can be tuned to suit people's preferences without horrid amounts of noise and distortion and there's nothing inherently wrong with calling them hi-fi products in 2012.
That's what I'm saying, mostly anyway. Take a headphone with low distortion, wide frequency response, ... and equalize them to your preferences. Equalization has its limits though and if you are, just as an example, into big bass then you're probably better off buying some very bassy headphones. I just don't call that hi-fi.
edit: Imo some genres don't even need hi-fi gear. Hyper-compressed songs sound bad on cheap desktop speakers but really awful on hi-fi speakers / headphones (even worse).
Edited by xnor - 9/16/12 at 7:08am