Originally Posted by LizardKing1
What puzzles me is that you assume objective data is only good to find neutral gear. You know you can look around FR graphs to find something with hyped bass, or a mid-treble peak, right? Objective data are just reliable and repeatable measurements, regardless of what it is. Even if you had a thing for distorted amps, you could check out measurements until you found one with considerable THD.
When did I make that assumption? The only thing I said was that hi-fi doesn't really mean the same thing to this new wave of enthusiasts. I agree that FR graphs can help you hone in on what you're after a bit easier, but it won't tell you which one sounds the best to you. And for the guy that compared an M3 to a pair of Beats...that's hardly an accurate appraisal of my analogy. An M3 is a very capable car (er, tank) and is more enjoyable to drive than a Corvette (in my opinion). If it was a souped-up Honda with ridiculous rims in my analogy, then you'd have me...
Holding to "I know what I hear and I know what I like" on a hi-fi forum does have a downside. While almost everyone will be more accepting of opinions if the are backed up by reasons (not necessarily data), "I like distorted, unrealistic sound" needs to find an outlet somewhere else. It is like attending a cat show to tell people you don't like cats. Why waste everyone's time? High fidelity, even just fidelity, means true to the original.
Actually, I lean towards neutrality, so we're kind of in the same camp. I think the reason the "I know what I hear..." argument doesn't fly with some on hi-fi forums is different people are in it for different reasons. Some people focus more on enjoying their music and are a bit passive as far as having a quest for their ideal (which I think is mostly made up of those new to the hobby) while others are hell bent on hearing it true to the original (the veterans who've been in it a long time), even if it takes them into 5 figures worth of gear. I think the term "high fidelity" is in the midst of an etymological change, for better or worse.
Maybe you should tell Jude to stop accepting ad dollars from companies that produce gear with a mid-bass hump or a treble spike, etc. since these companies don't make proper hi-fi gear. That would be akin to sacrilege for a true hi-fi man, no? It may be you who is in the wrong forum if you cannot tolerate opinions like mine - I certainly don't mind hearing what you have to say, nor do I think that you don't belong here.
Edited by doublea71 - 9/15/12 at 9:02pm