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post #5806 of 5820

I have a question how does these compare to the SHP 9500? do you get better cleaner sound with these or is it a case of better build materials?

post #5807 of 5820

I have the Philips and the AKG K7XX (from Massdrop) and drive them from a NuForce uDac-3, HRT microstreamer or my T+A Power Plant (HP output) and found little in terms of sound difference. I think you should be okay with the Schiit amp. From my own impressions: the X1 is big, bold and has excellent bass; the K7XX is more percise (less umph in the bass) midrange is about the same and a bit more sparkle in the treble. For the price, both cans are excellent, but I lean towards the X1 for fun. If you have the cash, the deal is good and you want experiment, then go for it!

post #5808 of 5820
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Originally Posted by Funambulistic View Post
 

I have the Philips and the AKG K7XX (from Massdrop) and drive them from a NuForce uDac-3, HRT microstreamer or my T+A Power Plant (HP output) and found little in terms of sound difference. I think you should be okay with the Schiit amp. From my own impressions: the X1 is big, bold and has excellent bass; the K7XX is more percise (less umph in the bass) midrange is about the same and a bit more sparkle in the treble. For the price, both cans are excellent, but I lean towards the X1 for fun. If you have the cash, the deal is good and you want experiment, then go for it!

 

All of the above, its an awesome deal and I really wanna try them. I know that they are quite different in sound sig. What really motivated me was the supposedly awesome soundstage. "Cos I'm all 'bout that... soundstage" I just worry that the Lyr will be a bit too noisy.

post #5809 of 5820
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Originally Posted by Denon5220 View Post
 

I have a question how does these compare to the SHP 9500? do you get better cleaner sound with these or is it a case of better build materials?

These sound quite a bit better than the 9500. The 9500 is more of a clear, bright sound. The X1 is warmer and has better separation, soundstage, imaging, etc. Just a more refined sound. The 9500 has more clarity, but it's a very gritty and unrefined treble. X1 has more detail, but it's a warmer sound.

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Originally Posted by ZapX629 View Post
 

These sound quite a bit better than the 9500. The 9500 is more of a clear, bright sound. The X1 is warmer and has better separation, soundstage, imaging, etc. Just a more refined sound. The 9500 has more clarity, but it's a very gritty and unrefined treble. X1 has more detail, but it's a warmer sound.

 

Thanks having the pleasure of hearing the Fostex Denon 25000 some years ago and comparing them to my sennheiser HD 598 I was pleasantly surprised that the SHP 9500 actually sounds better than the Denons which cost considerably more. Its only the aggressive treble is a slight issue but nothing to complain about if you eq it.

 

I agree the 9500 have some crazy clarity its pretty much on the HD 600 level of clarity. But the treble feels a bit too much too harsh.

 

SHP 9500 build quality is absolute garbage though. Earpads shallow and has a disgusting slidey feel, head bands weak and has 0 clamping force so it feels like **** when you even tilt your head slightly forward feels like its falling off.

 

I have to purchase after market ear pads to fix this so the cheap $65 price tag isn't as cheap when you think about it and consider the upgrade cost. The X1 is probably a better buy off the bat


Edited by Denon5220 - 10/27/16 at 5:13pm
post #5811 of 5820

I hadn't listened to my X1's for a while since most (all) of my "open can" listening time lately has been with the Nighthawks since I got them. But I decided to try out the X1's again with half a mind to sell them, but damn, they sound excellent with trance. The 'ol X1's are classics!

post #5812 of 5820

Is the X1 like 100% metal materials?

post #5813 of 5820
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Originally Posted by Denon5220 View Post
 

Is the X1 like 100% metal materials?

Plastic cups, metal cup supports and headband, leather headband cover.

post #5814 of 5820
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Originally Posted by ZapX629 View Post
 

Plastic cups, metal cup supports and headband, leather headband cover.

Love the X1. Premium looks, build, and sound without the premium pricing. While those cups are plastic, they're a much nicer plastic than what you find on the SHP9500. I've come to be okay with the clamping force on the SHP9500 since I usually don't have to move my head up or down much once I've put on headphones, so the light clamping force is pretty good for me. I've even come to be more okay with the pads. They're still too shallow, but I personally prefer whatever this material is to cheap pleather/vinyl. It's nowhere near as good as velour, but I can easily live with it. For me, $60 made it a great buy, but it really depends on individual preference.

post #5815 of 5820

So, I should be fine running the X1 out of the Lyr? No danger of blowing it up before 12 o'clock?

post #5816 of 5820
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Originally Posted by mikiphile View Post
 

So, I should be fine running the X1 out of the Lyr? No danger of blowing it up before 12 o'clock?

Sorry I missed this eariler. I don't think there should be a problem, just use the knob wisely. They aren't super sensitive like my AT cans or anything but they are lower impedance. Just start low and don't go nuts and you should be alright.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Midgetguy View Post
 

Love the X1. Premium looks, build, and sound without the premium pricing. While those cups are plastic, they're a much nicer plastic than what you find on the SHP9500. I've come to be okay with the clamping force on the SHP9500 since I usually don't have to move my head up or down much once I've put on headphones, so the light clamping force is pretty good for me. I've even come to be more okay with the pads. They're still too shallow, but I personally prefer whatever this material is to cheap pleather/vinyl. It's nowhere near as good as velour, but I can easily live with it. For me, $60 made it a great buy, but it really depends on individual preference.

Definitely. The 9500 is a golden buy at its $65 price level, but you have to like a brighter sound and not expect miracles from it. And yes, the X1's plastic is about 5 grades above the 9500. 

post #5817 of 5820

X1s are well worth it over the 9500 imo

post #5818 of 5820
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Originally Posted by liamosull View Post
 

X1s are well worth it over the 9500 imo

With the one caveat being unless you prefer a brighter sound signature. The X1 is, fidelity-wise, better than the SHP9500, but it might be better to get the SHP9500 if one you prefer a brighter signature as the SHP9500 does that better than the X1.

post #5819 of 5820

Depends on source gear and amping also imo. X1 can sound pretty "bright" with some gear. Though, with neutral sounding gear and enough juice, X1 sounds well balanced and slightly warm.

post #5820 of 5820
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Originally Posted by CoiL View Post
 

Depends on source gear and amping also imo. X1 can sound pretty "bright" with some gear. Though, with neutral sounding gear and enough juice, X1 sounds well balanced and slightly warm.

Well, assuming all other things equal, the SHP9500 will sound brighter than the X1.

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