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post #4006 of 4797

Me too!

I'm earing now with my Burson and X1 are fantastic.

(not like marvellous goldring but good).

post #4007 of 4797

Tyll at Innerfidelity

 

also says and emphasizes not recommended as an audiophile headphone ie for music look elsewhere "gaming" cans artificial treble

 

Also everyone that says they sound amazing are using dacs so by that I think they need a HQ dac/amp to bring out the mids and details and normally accompanied by having paid $150 or £120 for them.I'd be praising them too had I paid $150.


Edited by c64 - 2/28/14 at 12:09pm
post #4008 of 4797

So basically i now have to spend £100 + on a dac/amp just to hear the midrange and treble details ? that hasn't been mentioned by enough people that these really do need a well matched amp.

The headfonia review at least says this.

post #4009 of 4797

X1 are fantastic with a simple mp3 player like Nationite or Hisoundaudio studio V or dx50 (also with an ipod), it's not the same for hd600/650 or akg k/q or some Beyer (Goldring is not in the same play).

Simple changing the cable and with a good amp/dac X1 are excellent.

post #4010 of 4797
Wrong, the X1 sounds great right out of my laptop headphone jack, and my soundcard isn't anything special neither. Adding a entry level dac/amp won't make a large improvement.
post #4011 of 4797

No point comparing the sound to hd600 or hd650 when those need a powerful amp

post #4012 of 4797
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Originally Posted by Za Warudo View Post

Wrong, the X1 sounds great right out of my laptop headphone jack, and my soundcard isn't anything special neither. Adding a entry level dac/amp won't make a large improvement.

to me that proves you haven't owned many good headphones they sound utterly lifeless out of my sansa clip and xonar

 

anyway I am done with them and this thread to me they are \ _ _ _ _ sound sig maybe hey are \ ^ / on a hq amp but they sure as hell aren't on my e6 or xonar or sansa clip or phone they are \ _ _ _

post #4013 of 4797

There are some great quality headphone outs on products like the iPhone and Macs.  You don't need dedicated dacs and powerful amps to make many of the 'good headphones' sound good.

post #4014 of 4797

This depends on which pair you are comparing.  The HD650 has higher impedence than the H598 and at same setting, the X1 is louder than HD659.

 

UL

 

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Originally Posted by mrk View Post

If you're finding the X1 louder with the same volume than the other cans then maybe there is something wrong? Everything I've read and heard myself on my pair compared to the other Senns on my NAD D 3020 is that the X1 needs more volume to be as loud as the Senns. The HD598 at -40dB sounds as loud as the X1 at -20, for example.

Personally I find the X1 more rewarding to listen to though for both music and movies.
post #4015 of 4797

Hi Guys,

 

Sorry If this has been answered before (I did search).

 

Can anyone recommend a case for me to buy in the UK?

 

Many Thanks

post #4016 of 4797

And since no one answered it, I'll do it again:

Anyone had the chance to compare these cans to the L2? :)

post #4017 of 4797

Yo gents,

 

Having played with the X1 for two weeks now, I've gotten a full grasp of what they can do. These headphones, IMO, are int he same league as the DT880, K701, and HD600. Their tone is quite warm and favors bass and midrange, while the highs roll of smoothly. In tone, they have a similar signature to the HD650, but some more refined.

 

Now a bit on my stance of the the K701, HD650, HD600, and DT880:

 

  • I've always thought the HD650 sounded too muddy and rolled off. The sound always felt overly muddled in the bass (wobbly at times) and was not as controlled as the HD600. The midrange while warmer/fuller than the HD600, was always upfront and gave music a very intimate feel, BUT it also seemed to cover up some details and nuances. Mid-bass on this headphone encroaches into the midrange and causes them to sound congested. Trable is very rolled off, though detailed. I find it lacks the sparkle and body to make the music sound alive.
     
  • The DT880 is very neutral, somewhat sterile, with slightly recessed: midrange, bass, and a more forward treble. The midrange can be seen as scooped by some, but I believe it's incredibly flat and has very little coloration. This does suck the life out of music for some. The treble is well extended and can be brght or harsh depending on the listener, as for me it's bright but not harsh. Very detailed and airy is another thing that can be said of the treble. The bass is also very flat and has decent impact, but not a ton. It's bass is one of a kind though: detailed, layered, and well textured.
     
  • The K701 is a weird beast, different from the others. It's sound is somewhat bright with slightly recessed mids and slightly boosted bass. The midrange is a tiny bit recessed but it very detailed and inviting, not sterile or lifeless. Pure is a word that I can use to describe the midrange. The treble is kinda bright with good extension but rolls of the upper most registers. Quite airy and detailed it is, and no sign of harshness at all. The bass is nice with good depth and body, but lacks some midbass. As a result you gets reduced impact, but not by much.

 

Now the X1 is like a hybrid of the DT880 and HD650. It has the HD650's warmth and punch, but not the congestion and muddiness. The treble is like that of the DT880 in that it's well extended, but is also like the HD650's as it's incredibly smooth and rolls off. The bass is detailed and textured while retaining most of the HD650's impact. It's rather odd, the headphone is a mixture of both, yet it isn't. It's very warm, bassy, and has some good sparkle. I've heard no other headphone like it.

post #4018 of 4797
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Originally Posted by Zombie_X View Post
 

Yo gents,

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Having played with the X1 for two weeks now, I've gotten a full grasp of what they can do. These headphones, IMO, are int he same league as the DT880, K701, and HD600. Their tone is quite warm and favors bass and midrange, while the highs roll of smoothly. In tone, they have a similar signature to the HD650, but some more refined.

 

Now a bit on my stance of the the K701, HD650, HD600, and DT880:

 

  • I've always thought the HD650 sounded too muddy and rolled off. The sound always felt overly muddled in the bass (wobbly at times) and was not as controlled as the HD600. The midrange while warmer/fuller than the HD600, was always upfront and gave music a very intimate feel, BUT it also seemed to cover up some details and nuances. Mid-bass on this headphone encroaches into the midrange and causes them to sound congested. Trable is very rolled off, though detailed. I find it lacks the sparkle and body to make the music sound alive.
     
  • The DT880 is very neutral, somewhat sterile, with slightly recessed: midrange, bass, and a more forward treble. The midrange can be seen as scooped by some, but I believe it's incredibly flat and has very little coloration. This does suck the life out of music for some. The treble is well extended and can be brght or harsh depending on the listener, as for me it's bright but not harsh. Very detailed and airy is another thing that can be said of the treble. The bass is also very flat and has decent impact, but not a ton. It's bass is one of a kind though: detailed, layered, and well textured.
     
  • The K701 is a weird beast, different from the others. It's sound is somewhat bright with slightly recessed mids and slightly boosted bass. The midrange is a tiny bit recessed but it very detailed and inviting, not sterile or lifeless. Pure is a word that I can use to describe the midrange. The treble is kinda bright with good extension but rolls of the upper most registers. Quite airy and detailed it is, and no sign of harshness at all. The bass is nice with good depth and body, but lacks some midbass. As a result you gets reduced impact, but not by much.

 

  •  

 

Now the X1 is like a hybrid of the DT880 and HD650. It has the HD650's warmth and punch, but not the congestion and muddiness. The treble is like that of the DT880 in that it's well extended, but is also like the HD650's as it's incredibly smooth and rolls off. The bass is detailed and textured while retaining most of the HD650's impact. It's rather odd, the headphone is a mixture of both, yet it isn't. It's very warm, bassy, and has some good sparkle. I've heard no other headphone like it.

 

Nice impressions - thanks! "Very warm, bassy and has some good sparkle".. exactly right. A great signature for trance I find.

post #4019 of 4797
Nicee Zx. How do you recommend for front page? Lol
I agree with most of what you said there, I just wish the x1 had a little more apparent detail smily_headphones1.gif
post #4020 of 4797
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Originally Posted by lennshow66 View Post
 

Hi Guys,

 

Sorry If this has been answered before (I did search).

 

Can anyone recommend a case for me to buy in the UK?

 

Many Thanks


The Slappa hard case works nicely from my personal experience. 

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