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post #3646 of 4903
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Originally Posted by ourfpshero View Post
 

OMG, I have tried a few different cables with this and the difference is .............hardly there if at all. I have recabled many headphones and some, usually older, headphones do have a little change, this isn't one of them. The greater resistance to he stock cable will make a lower ohm cable seem brighter, but that's mostly a volume increase. 

In my expericne, it's not a volume issue.  It's a matter of clarity in the high lows and low mids.  Where trumpets and high percussion instruments hang out.  There is a muffled sound in that range on my X1's that is alleviated when I change the cable.  

YMMV.  Your ears may not be sensitive to that range, or your music may not be focused there.

post #3647 of 4903

Hi, for anyone wanting to get rid of their Philips Fidelio X1, i am looking for one.

 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/702046/philips-fidelio-x1#post_10197616

 
post #3648 of 4903
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Originally Posted by ajreynol View Post
 

What kind of music do you listen to?  To me, the muddiness and constrained highs was immediately apparent with the stock cable after switching from my D7000's.  Both issues were quite clearly addressed by swapping the stock cable with my old Beats cable.  The only way I could imagine different findings is if the music you're listening to simply doesn't spend a lot of time in the areas of sound where that cable's problems are highlighted.

I was listening to the Man of Steel soundtrack and some John Coltrane and I'd pick the Beats cable 10 times out of 10.  Those upper-lows and lower-mids that the stock cable struggles with are no problem with this Beats cable.  Not to mention the treble improvement.

YMMV, of course.

 

 

Kpop, ballads, metal, rock, OSTs, almost everything.

The reason I say I love the stock cable? Well apart from it looking so nice, I was also watching... Man of Steel. The stock cable "muddying" the mids actually makes movies bettere IMO. Sure the X1 isn't known to have fatiguing mids, but damn... the stock cable sounds as good as the mediabridge cable that I've used since day 1 last year. If the bass actually became more bloaty (which I believe is almost placebo), so be it. It's enjoyable regardless.

 

Perhaps, you hear a difference (and I respect that you do).. but the perception of the stock cable being absolute garbage is blown out of propotion. It's not that BIG of a difference.

 

 

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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post
 

 

BLASPHEMYYY!!!

 

I don't really hear much difference.

 

 

Here's my opinion on the cable:

 

I think some people take any issues they have with the sound on a piece of gear and then blame it all on the first interchangeable part.  I see this happen a lot with the Fidelio X1 - people listen to it and then blame any issues they have with the sound on its stock cable (with it's 1 ohm of extra resistance :eek:). Add in a dose of placebo and expectation bias, and all their issues with the sound seem to magically get fixed as soon as they use a different cable (I've seen people state they hear "night and day differences" when switching out cables).  The cable starts becoming the scapegoat for everyone's issues.  After this process of people blaming their problems on the cable repeats for a while, people eventually start labeling the stock cable as "lousy","garbage", "trash", etc.  New people who get the headphones read the negative remarks and often just conform to the idea that the cable actually is garbage, and then they voice it themselves - and the cycle repeats.

 

Agreed chico, absolutely agree with your opinion. 

post #3649 of 4903

Sorry guys ... but if "normal" cables are being used (like the original Philips, or any other cable that can handle the "power") you simply can't hear a difference.

 

Subjectively maybe ... the same way you think you are a better sportsman when wearing sneakers with the newest design.

post #3650 of 4903
There are simply too many factors involved to say "this is how it is for everyone."

Since you're the one listening, no one else can tell you what you're hearing. Don't let others dictate what you "should be hearing".

Maybe the cable matters for you and maybe it doesn't.

I have some left over materials and would be happy to make a 'tour cable' if anyone would like to judge for themselves before buying a cable.

I'll ship to the first person but each would have to pay the shipping sending it out. Usually $1.75 with USPS first class.
post #3651 of 4903
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Originally Posted by Kamakahah View Post

There are simply too many factors involved to say "this is how it is for everyone."

Since you're the one listening, no one else can tell you what you're hearing. Don't let others dictate what you "should be hearing".

Maybe the cable matters for you and maybe it doesn't.

 

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post #3652 of 4903
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Originally Posted by nway View Post
 

 

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post #3653 of 4903
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Originally Posted by Kamakahah View Post

There are simply too many factors involved to say "this is how it is for everyone."

Since you're the one listening, no one else can tell you what you're hearing. Don't let others dictate what you "should be hearing".

Maybe the cable matters for you and maybe it doesn't.

I have some left over materials and would be happy to make a 'tour cable' if anyone would like to judge for themselves before buying a cable.

I'll ship to the first person but each would have to pay the shipping sending it out. Usually $1.75 with USPS first class.

great idea, I think this experiment could really clear things up. 

Keep us posted, please

post #3654 of 4903

were can I buy these in canada for under $250?

post #3655 of 4903

Anyone has any idea of which cable(reasonably priced of course) has the lowest resistance? I have tried a monoprice premium quality cable, M80 cable and the stock cable and the mono price sounds best to me but is very heavy. 

post #3656 of 4903

Have anyone every tried it with dragonfly v1? just curious with the sound

post #3657 of 4903
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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post
 

Got my Amazon deal X1's today..............thrilled to report out of vintage amps they sound amazing.  Very good bass............yeah, I think they are basshead phones.  Out of my Pioneer Spec 1/2 rack system they are rocking big time.

I'm back on the bandwagon as well. I had some issues with Amazon when I bought my first pair (for $350 last summer -- crazy) and I couldn't pass up the $149. Glad to have them back :)

post #3658 of 4903
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Originally Posted by bimadz View Post
 

Have anyone every tried it with dragonfly v1? just curious with the sound

 

I have the newer Dragonfly version - sounds great with it. I'm sure it's similar w/ v1

post #3659 of 4903
My X1 has just arrived and I cant believe I got them for 150$. This is my first big open headphone Ive purchased. The first song I fired up was Downstream by Shira Kammen. What's immediately apparent is the wide stage, layered sound, and base that hits with authority from distinct directions. Currently I'm using the C&C BH2 and Clip Zip. I'm resisting pulling the trigger on X3 or D50, but I'm extremely happy now with the X1.
post #3660 of 4903

Good match, the X1 and C&C BH. I have both also and got the X1 at $149. I also bought the cheap alternate cable, Mediabridge, a 4-footer because I really like the short cable (use the X1 sitting down, not moving around). No, it's not neutral, but it's hardly a bass cannon as some have callled it. I think the bass is just right, after about 30 hours of burn-in. I am using the BH with all three switches on (SF, LF and Hi gain). I just like it that way. My source is iPod Classic (160GB) with ALAC files. But even ampless on my iPhone 5, the X1 sounds excellent. I do prefer how the amp brings out the best qualities (soundstage, details, air) but not chopped liver out of the iPhone.

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