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post #3256 of 4821

I am disappointed that my Fidelio X1 has developed a mild case of intermittent audio.  The 3.5mm jack connector on the headphone is what's causing the problem.  I have to fiddle with it to get a good connection and try not to move around or bump the cable connector.

 

I bought the X1 from a fellow head-fi member 8 weeks ago and I totally love the sound from these headphones.  Does anyone know if Philips will service my X1 if I am not the original owner?

post #3257 of 4821
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Originally Posted by Poltergeist8108 View Post
 

Hi, new owner of the X1 as well. So far very impressed, it needs a bit more burn in though. These will probably become my most used cans for EDM, i really enjoy my K712 as well bu the X1 just flat out beats it.

Better mids, bass and soundstage.

 

Hmm.  Mids were one area where I thought the K712 beat the X1 fairly easily.  I found the mids to be a highlight on the K712, whereas they were more of a checked box on the X1.  Of course it's all subjective.  ;)

 

The other areas are pretty close between them, so I could see it going either way based on individual preference.

 

 

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Originally Posted by deltasun View Post

Can anybody offer up some opinion on how the Fidelio X1 compares to the Beyer T90? Thanks!

 

 

The X1 is darker, bassier, warmer, smoother, and is also bit blurry and grainy sounding.  The T90 is clear, detailed, airy, and open, with forward treble and a lot of instrument separation.  The overall balance on the T90 makes it sound a bit leaner, faster, and drier than the X1. 

 

The T90 has better technicalities and is clearly more detailed and resolving, letting you pick out very fine details in the sound that the X1 is more likely blur together.  Even though the T90s soundstage isn't that different in size compared to the X1, the T90 has exceptional separation inside it's soundstage, making it very easy to hear where one instrument/sound ends and the other begins.  The X1 will roll them into each other a bit more.  T90 also has larger sounding instruments and taller sounding soundstage.

 

The X1 has a stronger bass presence (and more of a hump).  While the T90 is leaner in bass quantity it has better bass technicalities and speed. 

 

The distinguishing trait on the T90 is its treble.  The T90's treble is very detailed and quite forward (not spikey, just forward), so much so that it often overshadows some of the rest of the headphone's qualities.   You sometimes get the sense that the T90's treble is trying to "show off" to you and is being a little annoying in the process.  It has tons of air compared to the X1.  The X1s treble is darker in general, but with the top rolled off a little more especially.


Edited by chicolom - 12/27/13 at 10:08pm
post #3258 of 4821
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The X1 is darker, bassier, warmer, smoother, and is also bit blurry and grainy sounding.  The T90 is clear, detailed, airy, and open, with forward treble and a lot of instrument separation.  The overall balance on the T90 makes it sound a bit leaner, faster, and drier than the X1. 

The T90 has better technicalities and is clearly more detailed and resolving, letting you pick out very fine details in the sound that the X1 is more likely blur together.  Even though the T90s soundstage isn't that different in size compared to the X1, the T90 has exceptional separation inside it's soundstage, making it very easy to hear where one instrument/sound ends and the other begins.  The X1 will roll them into each other a bit more.  T90 also has larger sounding instruments and taller sounding soundstage.

The X1 has a stronger bass presence (and more of a hump).  While the T90 is leaner in bass quantity it has better bass technicalities and speed. 

The distinguishing trait on the T90 is its treble.  The T90's treble is very detailed and quite forward (not spikey, just forward), so much so that it often overshadows some of the rest of the headphone's qualities.   You sometimes get the sense that the T90's treble is trying to "show off" to you and is being a little annoying in the process. 
It has tons of air compared to the X1.  The X1s treble is darker in general, but with the top rolled off a little more especially.

Thanks for the detailed comparison. I was able to demo the T90 the other day, but cannot find a place to demo the X1. I did experience some sibilance on the T90 for certain vocalists, and is the only concern I have at this point. The detail retrieval though was amazing. I had my X3 line out to an Ernestolone Carot One to the T90.
post #3259 of 4821

HI everyone~

 

Could you guys recommend me a headphone cable to replace X1 stock cable ?

 

My stock cable has already became a tad loose...

 

My budget is 30 GBP. I hope the cable can find easily in UK.

 

THX~!!  

post #3260 of 4821
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Originally Posted by eddiehaha View Post

HI everyone~

Could you guys recommend me a headphone cable to replace X1 stock cable ?

My stock cable has already became a tad loose...

My budget is 30 GBP. I hope the cable can find easily in UK.

THX~!!  

I am using the V-Moda cable which is ok since I wanted an easy to handle cable with 3,5mm jack, but now I am considering the FAW Copper from Forza. Stock vs V-Moda I really haven't noticed any SQ differences, but not compared that much either:)

http://forzaaudioworks.com/en/category.php?id_category=36
post #3261 of 4821

http://www.kenable.co.uk/?cPath=48_58&sort=2a&page=2  

 

HaVoC-28 mentioned in an older post that he measured the "Pure HQ OFC Shielded" cable to have an impedance of around 0.5//0.6 ohm (he later clarified that this was for a 1.8 m length cable).

 

It's quite cheap and I've got myself the 3 m cable, no complaints so far but I'm no expert.

post #3262 of 4821
post #3263 of 4821

Out of curiosity, have you read anyone mention a noticeable difference between the more expensive and cheaper cables when used to replace the X1 stock cable? The reason I ask is that when I enquired about this people just told me to get the cheapest available with a lower impedance than the stock cable.

post #3264 of 4821
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Originally Posted by PTom View Post
 

Out of curiosity, have you read anyone mention a noticeable difference between the more expensive and cheaper cables when used to replace the X1 stock cable? The reason I ask is that when I enquired about this people just told me to get the cheapest available with a lower impedance than the stock cable.

I remember someone said he uses Toxic Cables which costed around  100 quid. The cable made X1 became better than Beyerdynamic T1. So I think it has difference between the more expensive and cheaper cables.

post #3265 of 4821

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post #3266 of 4821

Just get cables with the lowest impedance (and durability) at the price you can afford. You might want to get one with RF shielding if you think your phones and electronic devices are creating noise and distortion in the audio signals. I think you can get one for about $20 or less.

 

Some expensive cables have extra "features" like radioactive shielding, enormous gauges and strain reliefs, and durability like a steel cable.

Its unlikely you'll need them (and spend a third of the price of an X1 on the cable alone).

post #3267 of 4821
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Originally Posted by ksat90 View Post
 

Some expensive cables have extra "features" like radioactive shielding....

Is this for those times during a nuclear war when you really just need to listen to some undistorted music...:atsmile:

post #3268 of 4821

Just ordered a pair for £151, cannot wait!

post #3269 of 4821

Thanks for your recommendation and I expect your feeling after using FAW cables~!:D

post #3270 of 4821

It's been gone over many times here and on other threads: a cheap good quality cable (they invariably will be under 1 Ohm) will do the trick just fine for the Philips. The only reason to get a more expensive cable would be to compliment the X1's superb looks and those Forza cables ought to be as much as any sane minded person should pay really. Your mileage may differ.

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